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<0> bind?
<1> Uhh this cant be good :/sbin/restorecon reset /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.12/run-mozilla.sh context system_u:object_r:lib_t->system_u:object_r:bin_t
<2> egoot: alcohol, alcohol and pain killers
<1> Its going through my updates and doing that
<1> ...
<2> rudyV: DNS server
<3> well working*
<2> phoul: that is fine
<1> Ohh
<1> >.> thanks
<1> :P
<2> phoul: those messages are selinux setting the appropriate contexts on files and such
<1> Ohh
<1> Cool
<1> So its good?
<2> yes
<1> I thought i messed something up
<2> heh
<1> Im used to stuff messing up i just came from slack
<1> -_- so annoying
<2> ah
<0> I think Fedora is better than Gentoo because you don't have to build it from source if you don't want to
<2> Slack: Defining our methods ;)
<2> and I have promptly decided not to bother
<3> it's hard for me to even compare gentoo and fedora.
<4> is helix player able to play ANYTHING?
<1> Apples and oranges my friend
<1> :)
<2> stealth_vader: users
<3> that is what I am saying
<2> daMaestro: i find it easy, corse I call it something a but more crude :)
<3> stealth_vader, helix is the backbone to a few really nice media formats.. but for mainstream... i doubt it.
<2> s/but/bit
<1> Man its nice to finaly be in a help room where im not constantly begging for help for once i know what to do!
<4> AntonTakk: ?
<3> stealth_vader, look at xine or mplayer.
<2> stealth_vader: just an off the wall comment
<2> helix is pretty useless in general
<2> IME, anyways
<1> I use totem
<1> And xmms
<3> helix is the backbone to some neat projects.
<5> AntonTakk, what application were you trying to get into Extras?
<2> xine and mplayer can probably play anything helix does anyways
<6> is mplayer or xine or vlc able to play musepack?
<2> AutOPSY: Enlightenment 17
<6> beautiful
<1> :)
<5> Isn't that a desktop environment?
<2> yep
<2> basically
<1> Its nice
<1> But i cant ever get it workin
<1> :-\
<2> a pre-alpha desktop environment
<5> AntonTakk, yeah.. I guess you didn't expect to have to be the maintainer of the package right?
<2> phoul: I have a small yum repo of e17 stuffs for fc4, if you are interested
<6> AntonTakk, i am :)
<1> mmm
<2> AutOPSY: no, i don't feel like going through that process 74+ times
<1> cool
<1> I am to just later when my updates are done
<2> guzu: ok, msg me for details when you are ready
<1> You in here often
<1> ?
<2> i try not to distrib the details to widely for it cause my upstream is only 384 K
<1> You in here often ?
<0> I have 640K up, 3M down
<2> phoul: pretty well every day
<1> coo
<4> hmm realplay and mplayer both cant give me video on this http://www.rzim.org/cgi-rzim/hurl?f=/rzim/albania.rm
<2> AutOPSY: especially since my plan was to update from CVS weekly
<5> AntonTakk, can't you install Enl;ightenment 17 without it being in a Fedora Core repository though.. I mean, really wht is the motivation for wanting it in Extras?
<1> that would be...
<1> Pro
<2> stealth_vader: go to mplayer's website and grab the all codecs pack
<3> stealth_vader, 32bit?
<7> does anyone here run a strict selinux policy? i'm about to take the plunge for the first time and see if anything explodes..
<3> stealth_vader, yeah.. what AntonTakk said.
<2> AutOPSY: to share the joy that is E17
<5> pfft.
<2> meh, it's faster than Gnome or KDE
<1> AntonTakk, you gona do that? update weekly?
<5> AntonTakk, what does CVS have to do with submitting a package to Fedora Extras people?
<2> phoul: eventually, kinda in a rut atm cause I am making custom "proper" spec files for each package
<1> mmm
<2> AutOPSY: don't you have to go through the process again each time you update the package?
<5> What process?
<2> AutOPSY: also, what's the point of submitting it if i'm not going to keep it recent
<6> anyway you have to find a balance
<5> AntonTakk, exactly. Last time I used Enlightenment.. I thought my house was burning down, and I needed to take fire drill cl***es, how is all that "joy"?
<3> stealth_vader, there is also a real player for linux
<1> Anyhow im going to bed
<1> Im wasted and seeing funny
<1> Good night
<4> daMaestro: i just tried realplay
<4> AntonTakk: daeamarthw i have the codecs
<2> AutOPSY: so you don't like E, that's your problem, not mine :)
<5> I mean, for a pyro sure, Enlightenment is joy. I however can't see anything staring through a flaming desktop.
<2> "flaming desktop" ????
<5> AntonTakk, Enlightenment, yeah with the flames coming from the task bar?
<2> ...
<0> Is it possible to install more than one package in a yum session?
<2> rudyV: yes
<2> yum install blah bleh poo etc
<0> oh just specify more than one package? ok
<7> I guess I'm the only one who wants that warm fuzzy feeling knowing that every binary is locked down.
<3> rudyV, yum grouplist
<2> AutOPSY: for one, the fire module can be loaded and unloaded at will, and simply a tech demo
<2> AutOPSY: if you would bother to read anything about the project, you would know this
<5> AntonTakk, yes, but I'm a newb/beginner and I really don't like fire on my screen.
<2> AutOPSY: it's not there by default
<5> AntonTakk, I don't know how to load/unload a fire module..
<2> AutOPSY: so read the user manual
<2> i mean, jeebus, there is a gui for it
<5> AntonTakk, yes, Enlightenment in Fedora Core (Extras) has flames coming from the desktop.
<7> AntonTakk: does dr17 bring anything worthwhile to the table other than eyecandy?
<5> AntonTakk, it may have come from some other repository.
<2> egoot: yes
<5> AntonTakk, point is, someone packages whatever Fedora Extras won't provude I'm sure.
<3> damn. my neighbors are throwing a huge party. I will catch you all later... if I have to 'feel' their music might as well go party. lol.
<3> night all
<5> AntonTakk, what is the point in adding something to Fedora Extras with little to no funtionality except eye-candy, and sparkles (And flames)?
<2> little to no functionality?
<5> Yeah.
<2> where do you get that?
<5> Well, tell me how Enlightenment is anything more than a flashy desktop.
<5> I can do anything you can do in Enlightenment in Fluxbox.
<2> well, for one it is one of the fastest window managers around, if not /THE/fastest (according to the last benchmarks, anyways)
<5> Alright.
<7> AntonTakk: is this with hardware acceleration of some sort?
<2> egoot: no, the openGL rendering back end isn't stable yet
<2> so it is not enabled by default
<7> AutOPSY: why ask why? if flashiness is all it has to offer that's still worth adding to extra if people want it and someone is willing to maintain it
<5> egoot, yes, that is correct.
<2> AutOPSY: or how about E17's vfs stuff browses samba shares faster than nautilus browses local discd (IME, anyways)
<5> AntonTakk, who said I use nautilus?
<2> no one, but it's still a valid point
<8> rox in a repo yet?
<5> AntonTakk, how about smbclient that browses shares faster than E17..
<5> AntonTakk, to my knowledge smbclient is in.. Core.. not Extras.
<2> AutOPSY: yeah, how many fedora users do you rhing use the cmd line smbclient over gnome vfs of kiopslaves?
<2> s/rhing/think
<5> AntonTakk, as many have switched to Fedora Core from Redhat, or any other distribution.
<8> i like rhing better
<5> AntonTakk, I'm not a world poll. If you want answers to these questions, ask the world not me.
<2> AutOPSY: ans actually, evfs isn't that much slower than smbclient, and selecting files is considerably faster
<5> Ok.
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