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<0> ipfw: exactly what error did you get?
<1> kbrooks, menu.lst is a symlink to grub.conf
<1> kbrooks, (or is it the other way around)
<2> Can i use KDM insted of GDM?
<3> sixy: let me see if the log is still around
<4> ipfw: You should use the drivers from lign.org instead of those from nvidia.com
<4> livna.org
<5> looperboy, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May 24 09:48 menu.lst -> ./grub.conf
<6> i am having a laptop on which windows is installed in D drive. I made that laptop dual booting with other OS as FC 5. But now the machine dont boot in windows. When i select windows option it says chainloader +1. any idea how to resolve this?
<1> kbrooks, exactly, menu.lst is a symlink to grub.conf
<0> puneet there are literally 100s of howtos on the internet for this- try google.
<1> kbrooks, at any rate, either edit /boot/grub/grub.conf or /boot/grub/menu.lst (it's the same file).
<7> (if you speak that in the stereotypical 'indian voice' it works perfectly ... not to be rude, just thought it fit ;)
<3> sixy: I can toss the X.log on pastebin if you like ... it has a bunch of "blah not found" stuff, but the stuff does exist, and the config is very similar to my working one
<0> have you installed kernel-devel? but tbh you are much better off just installing the nvidia-graphics rpm for livna like tobiasoed said
<1> kbrooks, also check out http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=996



<5> looperboy, i wanted to see if a grub cnonfig tool exists
<1> kbrooks, no.
<5> looperboy, then I'll write one :O
<1> kbrooks, not that I know of. Cool!
<5> looperboy, so do you want to help some?
<5> looperboy, i'd like aa name. that's it. :-) do you like this: bootconf ?
<8> Did NetworkManager break with the latest updates? it no longer works here.
<9> hello
<8> I get these messages from nm-tool: "State: disconnected: print_devices(): didn't get a reply from NetworkManager. There are no available network devices.
<9> can anyone help me figure out how to install kernel sources on fedora core 5?
<10> sources or devel?
<8> matdon: they are available in the kernel-devel package
<8> matdon: listen to daMaestro
<0> yum install kernel-devel
<3> tobiasoed: yum tells me it doesn't have one for my kern
<0> that installs the kernel headers required to compile kernel modules - in theory you never need the actual kernel sources anymore for general useage
<9> yeah
<9> I'm just trying to build zaptel for asterisk
<9> but having all the source is nice
<5> yeah
<0> well its actaully not amazingly simple. there is an rpm of the actual kernel source floating around somewhere on the fedora network
<0> thats the eaiest way
<8> the source is in the src.rpm, like with any other package.
<5> sixy, do rpms rule? :-)
<8> but you don't need the source.
<0> :D
<9> I know I don't need it but I might want it
<0> one command that can install 100+ apps that you never meant to install in the first place? yeah :)
<5> I don't know if I like Ubuntu anymore , esp with FC5 on here.
<1> kbrooks, what are you writing it in?
<11> Is there a way to change the resolution if I don't run xwindows?
<9> well yum install kernel-devel seems to work but it's not the same version of the kernel that I'm using
<5> looperboy, python, with pygtk. however, i do have another project
<0> Ciphex - you can change the framebuffer reslution - is that what you meant?
<10> matdon, to get the srpm you use yumdownloader
<11> sixy: yessir!
<5> looperboy, thats written in python with pygtk too :P
<8> Ciphex: yes, you can change the resolution in the terminal by using some boot options.
<10> matdon, yum install yumutils
<11> sixy: how would I go about that?
<11> Foolish: is there any documentaiton on this?
<9> oh well that might help
<9> :)
<0> Ciphex you need the right mode number - im just trying to find a table of all the different modes
<10> matdon, and if kernel-devel is newer.. you need to upgrade your kernel; uname -r
<9> no it's older
<9> I think
<11> sixy: thx mate
<8> Ciphex: I remember now, you can do it by adding vga= to your boot options in /etc/grub.conf
<5> looperboy, i'm going to release orwell 0.1 beta 2 soon ;)
<8> Ciphex: just what to add after the vga= I don't know
<9> damaestro thanks for the helpful info
<10> matdon, sure.
<0> foolish - thats what im looking up atm
<0> its something like 762
<11> oic
<5> brb.
<0> Ciphex resolution=1024x768
<0> might work
<11> hmph
<0> ahhh its 792



<0> vga=792
<11> what does 792 correspond to?
<9> should kernel-smp-devel have an older version than my kernel outputs for uname -r?
<12> whats the url for this chatroom's pastebin
<0> 1024x768. but if you do vga=all then it will pause and give you a menu
<11> sixy: ooh let me try that
<13> http://www.mepis.org/node/2992
<14> matdon: no, they should match
<9> that's not cool
<11> sixy: no go :(
<9> uname -r reports 2.6.16-1.2122_FC5smp and yum install kernel-smp-devel as version 2.6.16-1.2080_FC5
<0> thats odd... what does it say?
<0> ah you may need to delete the rhgb quiet option
<15> Hmm, anyone had a problem with bluetooth pairings disappering with fedora and an ericsson t39 phone?
<16> Anyone used madwifi? I'm almost done installign my card, but I'm stuck. How do I set my essid? I've never heard of one (probably because I've only ever been wireless in windows) but I have a windows laptop running wireless right now if someone can tell me how to get the info I need (sounds like I need some sort of network id or something)
<17> hello, room!
<16> Hey there.
<18> hi where is php.ini installed at
<18> i want to take the safemode off
<18> nvm
<4> craigb***1976: I use madwifi
<16> I would say somewhere in the directory where the web page resides, but I'm not sure.
<17> Anybody have trouble with getting the kde crash handler notice when a k- app'n closes?
<16> tobiasoed, Ok, I just ran wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta and now I have to set my essid. ?
<4> craigb***1976: In windows you do show networks or something and you see the available networks with their names. Thats the essid
<19> I am trying to bind a server type program to a port but whenever I quit the program and restart it will not connect to any port previously used and a different port has to be chosen
<4> craigb***1976: iwconfig ath0 essid "linksys"
<19> any idea what could be causing this?
<16> Maybe I should wait then, this wireless router is totally wide open. I should probably tighten 'er up then do this.
<20> Dfre: are you sure all the older processes have been stopped?
<4> craigb***1976: If you tighten the thing up, it's going to make it harder to get to work.
<4> Try the easy way, then add the security
<20> Dfre: there might be a forked child process still running or something
<16> I'm such a dumb***. I kept typing ifconfig and got frustrated when no wireless card showed up....
<16> Right.
<17> well, seeya!
<20> Dfre: you should be able to use netstat and see if a process is bound to a specfic port
<21> Hrm
<16> Maybe this router is getting flakey... Now I see it, now I don't (from the windows box)
<21> Does FC5 come with libncurses?
<19> |Jef|, I killed the program with ctl-c, I did a ps aux and I did netstat with al options I didnt see anything
<4> craigb***1976: if it's a dlink it might need rebooting ;)
<5> how can I file a bug?
<15> kbrooks: bugzilla.redhat.com
<5> AndyCap, um?
<21> I'm trying to compile something from source and have no clue what I'm doing, heh
<16> Westell, but I'll try it anyway.
<16> I'm three feet from the damned thing and "no networks in range"
<5> AndyCap, against Fedora
<15> kbrooks: yes?
<19> its just a generic server written in c so I dont know how it would be listed by any port scanner or processes list
<15> kbrooks: yes.
<5> AndyCap, same url?
<0> this is ridiculous. exectuting a shell command when removable media is inserted should be easy to do in linux, but it seems damn near impossible without using that piece-of-crap cutesy gnome gui
<20> Dfre: what was the exact netstat command you ran?
<5> sixy, it isnt impossible
<4> craigb***1976: don't know westell but sound like a reboot is in order
<20> sixy: you can most certaintly write your own dbus client
<0> well after about an hour of browsing google i cant find how to do it :(
<15> |Jef|: do you know of any good documentation of dbus, hal, udev, et.al?
<0> there was a very brief not on writing python scripts for hal, but i dont know python
<21> Can someone help me with this?
<5> sixy, you can learn it quite easily
<4> Anyone own a wireless access point that runs longer that a week without reboot? belkin, dlink **** from my experience
<0> yeah.... i kinda dont have time between now and friday :(
<20> AndyCap: not really... nothing really geared towards the admin or user who wants to write a simple script
<5> sixy, um, you dont have to learn everything
<5> sixy, just the basics
<0> can you give me some pointers? ive tried searching but got nowhere
<19> |Jef|, I ran with just about all the options but I just did netstat -vltx
<5> sixy, well... not for dbus.
<20> AndyCap: the oddjob framework is targetted at admins so if you can work through its simple example.. you learn enough to write your own oddjob scripts
<4> AndyCap: man rulz!


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