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<0> che: I'm doing it for nautilus now
<0> http://rafb.net/paste/results/t8m4X110.html
<1> Em: well i enjoy gnomes ease of use aswell. but just toying aorund with that: http://wmii.de/
<0> uh sorry... incomplete
<0> http://rafb.net/paste/results/9Im0NF38.html << should be fine
<2> i'm beginning to find gnome relatively inhibitive for use, but. lemme take a look.
<1> Em: i am running test3 here.
<1> Em: its pretty awesome... e.g. wireless connectivity setup with NetworkManager easy dead easy.
<1> Em: gnome power manager is included too ;)
<2> that's cool.
<1> wpa and wpa2 support even
<2> i'll have to wait for those things.
<1> well its coming soon
<1> did you see the aiglx demos yet?
<2> i've seen it around, i haven't looked closely at it.
<1> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx



<1> there are some movies ;)
<2> i might not see many of these effects. i don't like to use metacity.
<3> che, i just took at look at that yesterday.. pretty neat. have you sent the full xgl vid? google: xgl-demo1.xvid.avi
<3> seen*
<0> sorry about that.. had to pull the power cord
<0> the whole thing just hung
<0> when I tried to kill nautilus
<3> kill -9
<3> as root
<0> che: is the paste in order?
<3> it would have died
<0> daMaestro: I doubt it
<1> daMaestro: why is that demo only available in a proprietary format? ;)
<0> I was debugging /usr/bin/fluxbox
<0> daMaestro: the whole desktop is screwed I tell you
<1> daMaestro: i wish thered be something really unencumbered in use. ;)
<0> any idea why fluxbox is acting so wierd on my system? I even removed ~/.fluxbox before installing it. So it should be a fresh install
<0> daMaestro: I checked your paste and I have the exact same kernel and fluxbox version
<2> how's it acting weird ?
<0> Em: you weren't around when I was describing it, sorry. I'll do this once for you
<2> oh you don't have to, if it's more than like ten words.
<4> ok - I'm looking for an old guy who remembers the days of P2's and early P3's for some help identifying hardware and figuring out if theres a way to update my bios to accept an 80Gb Hd (max is currently around 30GB). Any volunteers?
<0> 1. Hardly any gnome apps start on it. gedit and nautilus don't start with no error or crash report
<3> MrCraig, you just need to look at the manaufactures site...
<0> 2. It logs me out randomly
<0> 3. I can't seem to set the wallpaper
<2> well, logging out means fluxbox is probably crashing and ending the session, you think ?
<4> ok daMaestro thanks - I'm off to see the intel wizard then :)
<0> yes, exactly
<2> setting the wallpaper involves some separate program, of course. there's so many of them, one should do the trick.
<0> 4. gdm crashes when I log out
<2> and as for that first one, that's weird. when starting on hte command line, they just exit silently ?
<0> Em: feh. It's a fluxbox issue in my case
<3> ram_einstein, the wallpaper does not count... my wallpaper did not show up untill I ran nautilus (without --no-desktop)
<0> Em: I don't see anything on my screen! It doesn't exit
<2> so it's running. it's just not... there.
<0> daMaestro: ? It's supposed to
<0> Em: exactly
<4> btw - can a fedora install be started from floppy (i.e. can installation be done w/out cd-rom) ?
<2> you're not running more than one display, are you ?
<3> ram_einstein, i think the backround is set differently in flux
<2> fluxbox doesn't set the background. you have to do that yourself.
<0> 5. When I try to run xcompmmgr and transset, my video card spews some nonsense and I can't even init 0!
<0> daMaestro: I read the manual, I know how it's set
<0> Em: it executes a startup program
<0> fbsetbg which uses feh to set up wallpaper
<3> ram_einstein, you might try 'yum remove fluxbox; rm -rf /home/ram/.fluxbox; yum install fluxbox'
<2> is fbsetbg installed ?
<0> daMaestro: I told you, I already did that. That's what I did now
<0> Em: yes. It comes with fluxbox
<0> or fluxbconf, I don't remember which
<2> just wanna be sure.
<2> if it isn't running and working, you have to wonder.
<3> i dont have fluxbconf installed...
<0> 6. After logging out of fluxbox and after going through several greeter crashes, it refuses to start gnome
<0> Em: sure. Ask away. The problem seems out of this world
<0> daMaestro: install it. It has some nice fluxbox config things (supposed to)
<0> daMaestro: fluxconf is too small to pose any problem besides, in my case
<0> 7. fluxbox *hangs* several times a day and I can't do anything
<0> none of this ever happens on _any_ other desktop
<0> so it's reasonable to ***ume that it's a fluxbox problem



<5> ram_einstein: doesnt happen on any of my fedora systems
<5> ram_einstein: and i run fluxbox over vnc
<0> |Jef|: yep. daMaestro too can confirm that
<0> guess I'd better retire to bed and be happy with gnome and xfce
<0> this problem is going nowhere
<1> |Jef| on development flux and WindowMaker miss gdm entrys again.
<2> heh. i tried to run fluxbox in place of metacity a time or two. it didn't have great results.
<0> Em: forget it; /part #fedora Gotta sleep a bit and nuke flux
<6> does anybody seen this problem? FC5T3 crashes when it tries to format my 450Gb bios raid1 partition. I use an Asus MB with ICH7R chip and 2Gb of mem. Both hdd's are 500Gb Sata
<7> Has anyone set up a domain name for their home LAN?
<2> sure lots of people have.
<2> i said that to knighthawk, by the way.
<7> Em okay it sounds silly because I do this for servers all the time but "how" I mean do I have to / should I register with some group?
<2> knighthawk, there's a pretty cheap easy to do it, actually.
<7> Do I just say my domain name is "whatever" and put that on my LAN?
<2> well, okay there's a few ways.
<6> knighthawk, it's pretty easy
<3> knighthawk, you can make up whatever you want if you have your own local dns server
<3> knighthawk, server1.knighthawk.local
<2> knighthawk, are you hoping to have a domain that's valid all over the internet ?
<7> daMaestro, like Bind?
<2> or just hostnames valid inside your network ?
<3> knighthawk, Em asked if you want the names public.. i ***ume you don't
<7> Em nope only need to use it internally
<2> oh. then listen to them.
<3> knighthawk, just setup a dns server to host the domain.. then set your local clients to use that dns server
<2> personally i'd just edit the /etc/hosts of the people on the network and be done.
<7> dns server = Bind or something like it?
<2> right.
<6> hmm i just configured nbmd and let windows find the rest thru announcements
<2> nmbd ?
<7> Em I have each hostname in /etc/hosts but how do I put the domains in there?
<3> Em, samba
<2> i was just asking if that's what he meant.
<2> knighthawk, umm. i'm not sure what you mean exactly, but maybe i don't enough about the subject.
<3> knighthawk, just add to the entrys
<7> lets say I have host1 and host2 and host3 as nodes on my network.
<2> you want your own little TLD for your internet network ?
<7> I want to be able to look at them together as a group like host1.knighthawk.local
<2> just call em host1.blah and host2.blah and host3.blah ?
<7> then have a domain of knighthawk.local
<7> That sounds like the easiest thing for me. (I'm a little nervous about setting up Bind) I only have 5 computers my tivo and playstation2 that needs to understand it.
<2> *sigh* i wish my port 25 weren't filtered by the ISP...
<8> lol
<8> ISPs nowadays are trying to be internet nannies
<2> nah, it's nothing of the sort. they just want more money.
<8> lol
<8> i think they're trying to stop spam relaying and such...
<2> they're failing.
<2> they need to let me run my own server.
<8> yup
<2> well, i _am_ running it. but.
<9> In Yumex theres a green + to the right of some, but not all available packages. What does it mean???
<9> ...if fact its to the left ... not right :-)
<9> did
<8> ahh
<8> okthen
<8> no idea, soz
<9> np :-~
<8> my ISP is nice, they let me run my own webserver :D
<8> http://dannyturner.dyndns.org/
<2> heh. i run tons of services like that, of course.
<8> hehe :)
<2> the only one they block is smtp (in and out)
<8> i run telnet, ssh, ftp, sftp and http
<8> and i let my friends host their website on there :)
<8> e.g. http://dannyturner.dyndns.org/~ashley/
<2> cute.
<8> lol
<8> i wanna be a sysadmin when im older :)
<10> bittorrent seems to have improved a lot. It's dealing with my NAT/firewall a lot better than it used to. I'm even looking forward to downloading FC5 now
<9> What not go further and study to be a windows user?
<2> fc5 should be able to run azureus with gcj


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