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<0> Astinus-: if you just need a browser to get by for a bit, go snag opera9Beta Static ... its pretty sweet
<1> I always use the 'official' firefox build, and without problem
<2> sponix: ok
<0> plokta: you have libstdc++.5 then I take it ;)
<3> sponix: one more question, is there a central interface where path name vars are listed for a specific user?
<0> plokta: why don't you tarball it and send it to Astinus- ;)
<1> it is a tarball, and mozilla bandwidth is >>> mine ;)
<0> Ciphex: easy what to get your path is export | grep "PATH=" in bash, or env ... with csh/tcsh
<0> Ciphex: or just export|less and scroll throught he vars ;)
<1> indeed, compat-libstdc++-33 is that you need
<0> s/he/the/
<0> I see, I built gcc343 this time instead of 336, that might be some of the snag ;)
<0> plokta: is there a 'yum' command thing you could hand Astinus- to install that compat -- > yum install compat-libstdc++-33 maybe ?
<0> and wtf is up with the name yum anyway :P
<1> Yellowdog Updater, Modified
<1> yum install compat-libstdc++-33
<0> ha, they ripped something from yellowdog linux aye :P
<1> sponix: indeed :)
<0> Astinus-: that yum command from plokta _might_ get you rolling with the ff you already have
<2> sponix: ok thnx
<1> Astinus-: key thing is that ldd <path-to-firefox/firefox-bin | grep stdc should map to something when you have the right lib
<0> so, is there any true advantages to fedora ... besides not having to convert packages over to another format to install them :P
<1> advantages compared to what ?
<4> does anybody know when the new kernel in updates-testing will make it to updates?
<5> sponix: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview
<0> compared to say .. deb, slack, Gentoo, SuSE ?
<5> bench12345: when it's tested enough.
<1> one size doesn't fit all I guess, try a few, each to their own..
<4> yeah, it's that "enough" part I'm trying to get a handle on
<5> bench12345: that's up to the maintainer.
<2> sponix & plokta: ok it worked now
<1> if the kernel has something you want, give it a try, the worst you can do is reboot to the old version
<0> GFS is a POSIX compatible cluster filesystem which is POSIX compatible
<4> plokta: I don't know all the dependancies there are for it, and I know there's more in updates-testing than I want to just blindly upgrade
<0> *Grin*
<0> fedorared: thanks for the link, as usual rh _sounds_ good
<1> bench12345: Installing it will try to update any dependant packages, you can make a call then, when you see what they are
<5> sponix: from the department of redundancy department. I'll fix it.
<0> fedorared: I'll give the fc a shot, its been years since I've slapped rh on a box
<0> fedorared: you have a good since of humor -- I like that ;)
<4> yeah...... that's an option..... I suppose I was really wanting to hear an answer along the lines of "barring any problems, it'll be released monday"
<5> stole that one from slashdot.org :)
<0> fedorared: fc pushes LSB doesn't it.. fc5 is probably lsb3.1 aye ;)
<1> bench12345: doesn't give you many guarantees, eg the totally broken release a couple weeks ago
<4> yeah, that's the one I'm limping along with now, as yum helpfully removed my old kernel
<5> sponix: yes. weird broken packages hamper that though.
<5> bench12345: you can. see yum man page.
<1> I don't dig the lsb thing, too many dependancies in it
<5> bench12345: there's a limit to what's on the mirrors though.
<1> bench12345: sounds broken, the default is to keep at least the last kernel
<0> fedorared: broken packages, Never !
<0> fedorared: surely you are talking 3rd party broken packs ;)
<4> fedorared, I don't see anything in the yum manual except how to install a local rpm
<4> not helpful when you don't have the rpm you want to install
<5> bench12345: scroll down. "Specifying package names"
<4> ooooo
<0> one thing I am wanting to get my hands on is that ADS, I would like to see that advance in a hurry -- sick and tired of people saying 2k3Serv is the way to go because its got "Active Directory"
<0> just another hyped buzzword imho
<1> you can hook the last two kernels from the updates site
<6> kernel hooker?
<7> anyone played with xgl?
<8> beetlepun_, not on Fedora Core, but I'm trying it on OpenSuSE in a couple days
<1> I think my hardware ****s too much for xgl :)
<9> plokta: only very few cards are supported for XGL, and it is not a big deal anyhow.
<1> I doubt my cards even support GL lol
<10> http://www.illawarra.org/linux/
<10> my xgl on fc5 done quick guide :)
<9> bbt: dementedness should not be encouraged :-)
<8> bbt, I'll try to install XGL according to your guide later ;)
<8> thanks
<10> Blis***, huh?
<10> perry753, np
<11> damn it, why does fedora have some mental logrotate.conf stuff instead of a normal newsyslog.conf
<11> which is far more sane and easy
<11> anyway, how do I set the size of the file before it gets rotated?
<9> jsoft: historical accident I'd guess...
<9> jsoft: 'man logrotate.conf' :-)
<1> I've not seen a system as concrete as logrotate before, I've ported it to other unices
<12> Are there any common problems with networking on a duel network nvidia nforce2 motherboard? What is forcedeth?
<13> acronos: forcedeth is a module name
<11> as concrete. lol.
<11> well fedoras default 'concrete' logrotate is a bag.
<11> it lets enourmous files develop.
<1> jsoft: so will any unix, at least it gives a flexible framework to control them without having to roll your own
<11> no, other unix have sane defaults
<11> and are very easy to edit
<11> another example of linux going and trying to fix something which was not broken
<1> jsoft: I am familiar with no sane defaults on aix or tru64 for starters
<11> well luckily ive not used those.
<1> or HP-UX come to think of it
<11> Yer. Commercial unix seem ****ed
<12> What is the best fedora tool to try to fix networking problems?
<11> Not as clean as a normal free unix which has been dragged thru a muddy puddle by a long shot
<1> acronos: what sort of problem ? no link ? poor performance ?
<5> acronos: system-config-network, and the usual tools: ifconfig, ping, etc.
<14> jsoft: are you going to keep whining, or do you want an actual answer to your question?
<12> Fedorared: thanks. brb going to look there.
<15> hello, does anyone know about what free 3d networked games are available for Linux?
<9> pgm: yes.
<15> I only know of Enemy Territory and bzflag
<5> pgm: Violent? nexuiz
<9> pgm: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxNotes.html#majorGames
<9> pgm: for strategy there is also Wesnoth...
<12> I have system-admin-network using version 5. I have been using terminal for ping and ifconfig. This is a clean install set up by wizard. Those tools indicate that there is no traffic getting through.
<5> acronos: errors? host not reachable? dns not resolving?
<12> I have tried switching the setup from on adapter to the other. also, moving the physical cable between the two adapters.
<12> Ping gives host unreachable on all addresses
<12> that i tried
<12> I used dns from this computer to resolve the ip address for wired and it didn't reach either
<12> that wasn'
<12> clear
<12> I used dns to resolve the ip adress then switched compters and tried to ping the ip directly
<15> Blis***: thx
<5> acronos: what devices are setup in system-config-network ?
<12> I was unable to find system-config-network. I could find system-admin-network. Is this what you are refering too?
<5> acronos: uh, no. what does "rpm -q fedora-release" give you?
<12> The devices are eth1 and eth0
<12> one sec fedorared
<5> acronos: Fedora's config tool is sytem-config-network, confirming your Fedora release.
<12> fedora-release-5-5
<5> acronos: DHCP or static IP?
<16> i'm trying to install MySQL-Server 5 on FedoraCore 4, but the command YUM is installing MySQL 4.1. It's possible to install MySQl-Server 5 on FC4?
<12> static
<5> acronos: you have a gateway setup? run "route"
<12> no conficts
<3> any of you use checkinstall?
<12> one sec
<5> knoth: you could upgrade to FC5.
<12> I may be running it wrong. but i get command not found
<16> is the only way?
<5> acronos: /sbin/route
<12> k
<5> knoth: I don't know of FC4 packages, or if FC5 would work. upgrading to FC5's probably simplest.
<16> ok!! thanks for the tip!!
<12> The information here is wrong
<12> here being the results of route
<12> My gateway shows a astrix.
<12> It should be 65.243.116.193
<5> acronos: system-config-network
<12> I'll look again
<5> acronos: you should have some default in the Gateway column.
<3> Are there any tools or programs that aid in managaing compiled software?
<5> Ciphex: rpm :P
<12> the default it says is daviscore.com which is wrong
<3> err source based software
<12> daviscore.com is 65.243.116.195
<3> Checkinstall is one such program, but its a bit dated
<12> In the menu at the top of the screen under system i have : preferences,administration, help, about, logout, etc
<5> acronos: Administration > Network
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