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<0> You might have to do some tweaking in firefox files perhaps. Dont know.
<1> wtheck: no idea. what happens when you try to compile it with ssl?
<2> tools>options? no existe.
<0> what ver are you running dude?
<0> 1.5?
<0> or 1.0 ? 0.8 ?
<2> 1.5.0.1
<3> where can i find the fc5 apt rpm ??
<0> bottom of tools menu, preferences / options
<1> thingfish: edit -> preferences. 'content' tab
<4> braniff, apt is dead
<2> I was just wondering because in the last distro I used, fonts worked like magic.
<2> nyq: yeah been there, messed around, no difference.
<5> nyq: compiles fine, detects one or two libs that openssl has installed (libs => lssl, libcrypto) but after compile and make install, doesn't conncet to ftps sites. Gives error
<2> apt is dead on *rpm distros* ;)
<1> wtheck: does it have a compile time option like '--enable-ssl'? (see the output of './configure --help')
<2> it sure as hell ain't dead.
<5> nyq: Yes, I compile it with => --with-openssl
<6> umm... so in FC4, xcalc was in xorg-x11-tools
<0> This is what I get running fc-3, fc-4, and win32... it all merges after awhile :-)
<6> only, that package doesnt exist in FC5 that I can see
<2> hehe
<6> at least, its not installed, and not available
<0> what are they putting into snickers bars? one snickers and I am full the rest of the day!
<1> wtheck: can you see whether it's enabled in 'config.h' (or similar). does lftp binary link produced against any openssl libraries (ldd `which lftp`)?
<2> man I can even change the font size in firefox and nothing changes.
<2> oh well.
<5> I'm re-installing lftp through yum again. If it doesn't work, I'll recompile it through source. Working on it ..
<1> wtheck: i'll have a look myself aswell.
<1> thingfish: have you been into the 'advanced' menu? firefox doesn't 'listen' to the gnome font settings so it's not really great, for integration
<2> nyq: I'll check, thanks!
<2> doesn't seem to be much there, relevant to my issue, at least.
<6> you know, missing xcalc shouldnt be bothering me this much... but it is. Its amazing how such a little program can be so handy
<4> thingfish, thanks for the correct.. the support for apt has been dropped upstream for FC.. and I would expect other rpm based distros also
<4> correction
<6> I suppose I could use kcalc
<7> hello all
<2> daMaestro: yeah, I'd imagine so too.
<7> XGL works flawlessly with fedora
<7> stil lwaiting for aiglx to support nvidia :P
<2> daMaestro: I guess the next great thing for rpm-based distros is supposed to be SMART?
<1> wtheck: according to the fc5 lftp src.rpm it is compiled with '--with-openssl=/usr ' so ssl support should be enabled. I'd say if it's not a problem with the site, then it's possibly a bug you should file against lftp
<5> ldd `which lftp` output for the version (lftp-3.4.3-1) yum installed doesn't show openssl libs in it.
<7> thingfish: yes
<2> nagulator: where'd you get it from?
<4> i have not used smart.. I really support the work done on yum
<7> what xgl?
<5> nyq: Ok.
<2> yeah well I'd not put up with rpm-based distros without yum.
<4> i respect the author and think it has shown enough progress to earn my respect
<2> nagulator: yes, xgl.
<7> ok wait for link
<2> I agree, daMaestro - I mean it has its faults, but if you have a fast internet connection, they're tolerable.
<4> thingfish, i admit i used apt until yum started to work itself out
<4> but thanks for the correction on my remark about apt-rpm support
<7> xgl download for fedora: http://www.linuxfans.org/nuke/modules.php?name=Site_Downloads&op=geninfo&did=4296
<2> oh you don't have to thank me, daMaestro, I'm just a lowly peon.
<7> remember to enable compiz by adding it in sessions
<7> specifically the things to add are:
<2> thanks nagulator
<8> Ok ::confused:: Machine spikes in load to 12-15 sometimes, nothing is reported in top really, and I don't know how to tell with 'free' or 'top' how much memory is actually being used. It always says cache is using cache/buffer is using most of memory.
<7> compiz --replace gconf
<8> Can anyone give any insight?
<7> gnome-window-decorator
<2> gosh I wish I read chinese...
<7> just download the tarball
<7> then add the two things I told you in your session
<2> ok
<7> there are a couple of things more but you will figure them out, the crucial stuff is that you add these two to your session startup
<2> how big's the tar.bz2 file?
<7> I still wonder why fedora forums do not have any information on XGL and I have to read chinese to understand how to put it up correctly
<7> 2.5 mb
<7> :P
<2> I'm on dialup. If it's like 100MB I'll forget it.
<2> oh cool.
<7> 2.5 mb
<7> once you untar it do: xgl-settings as root
<8> Ok ::confused:: Machine spikes in load to 12-15 sometimes, nothing is reported in top really, and I don't know how to tell with 'free' or 'top' how much memory is actually being used. It always says cache is using cache/buffer is using most of memory. Anyone shed some light?
<1> mikefoo: I prefer htop (yum install htop)
<2> ok
<7> I will be here for a bit, tell me if you have any problems
<2> ok, thanks, nagulator, you're being more than kind.
<2> linux people are the best! :)
<7> lol
<5> while compiling ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-openssl=/usr/include I get => checking for openssl library... OPENSSL_LIBS="-lssl -lcrypto" OPENSSL_LDFLAGS="-L/usr/include//lib -R/usr/include//lib" OPENSSL_CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/include//include
<2> it's true, though, really.
<2> linux is all about sharing.
<7> you will be needing some extra info to make it work correctly though, make sure you run things as I told you, then we work it out; btw have you installed the nvidia driver?
<2> well, really, I should say GNU/Linux is all about sharing.
<7> no proprietary driver = no xgl mate
<2> nagulator: oh yes, installed and functioning.
<2> ;)(
<7> perfect thingfish
<7> how is the download going?
<2> do I enable compiz before or after installing it?
<2> or does it matter
<7> after of course
<9> Where are X.org's mouse fonts?
<9> Cursor fonts?
<7> hmm perhaps I should make a friendlier way for people to install xgl on fedora, a yum repo perhaps
<2> ooh that would be sweet, nagulator.
<7> problem is I do not have my own ftp for that :P
<2> nagulator: so what? Just do a little how-to then.
<7> probably, the one I found in the english forums was not helpful at all
<7> there are two important things for me in the eye - candy work for fedora
<7> 1. xgl support
<7> 2. HE-AAC ADTS VBR x264 mkv file support
<7> xgl was easy, the one below was not
<10> The computer that I use for most of my computing tasks is still running Core 4. I am therefore regularly reminded of how nice Core 4 is and what a damn mess Core 5 is.
<7> itnomad: fc5 works fine here
<5> nyq: http://pastebin.com/728903
<6> bah
<10> when it works here it works pretty good, but now I have managed to break yum. I can't do updates because out range or checksum errors.
<6> I didnt realize I left the chan
<5> nyq: openssl library is in it, but still get the same message
<5> Time for me to hit the sac
<10> The first thing I noticed about Core 5 was that man pages were not installed. Then I had to install the openssh packages. Never had to do those things before. I've been with Linux since RedHat 5.
<2> man pages are fine here.
<6> bah! stupid htmlview!
<1> itnomad: sounds like you messed up your install rather than it being an fc5 thing.
<10> I'd say so, but I am new to some of these problems. I have never had a problem with yum in Core 4 or apt in core 3, or up2date before that.
<1> itnomad: apt has never been in fedora (other than an add-on). it's always been yum and up2date until fc5 replaced up2date for pirut
<10> apt worked very well with core 3.
<11> sure, but it was still an add-on package and not part of Core
<10> Foolish: I see your point. My point is that ... I don't have a point. I am just venting my frustration with not being able to update my laptop.
<1> itnomad: i find counting to ten works well. what's the problem anyway?
<12> What's the best way to manage source based installs? Checkinstall is the only util I know of that tries to simplify management of such installations.
<10> It tries different mirrors for each package and then fails with checksum errors. I'll boot it up and try running it. I think I messed it up by having to many repositories.
<13> itnomad : apt/rpm is poorly maintainable and has been forsaken by its original maintainers (connectiva team).
<13> itnomad : ex-connectiva members have writen 'smartpm'
<10> Anvil: I understand that. It did work with Core 3 very well.
<12> Is there a postfix package that adds mysql and pgsql capabilities? It doesn't seem native to the rpms on the yum repositories
<2> well something seems to be happening, xgl-install-wise
<13> itnomad : and apt still doesnt have multilib support.
<2> yeah, poor inferior apt.
<10> hooray, yellow dog!
<2> why do you say that, itnomad?
<14> Hey, which RPM should I go with for user mode linux utilities on Fedora Core 2? I've looked on google and I'm really not sure.
<10> i am using dries, livna, core, updates, freshrpms, macromedia, extras, release
<13> itnomad : you shouldnt mix incompatible repositories.
<15> lol
<10> thingfish: yellowdog updater modified.
<2> oh, yum, well I was wondering if that's what you were on about, itnomad.
<10> I took the atrpms out of there hoping that would be enough.
<12> Is there a postfix package that adds mysql and pgsql capabilities? It doesn't seem native to the rpms on the yum repositories (fedora core 4)
<16> Why doesn't Macormedia Flash install? I installed it into /usr/lib/mozilla
<13> Noah0504 : http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
<14> Does anyone here run user mode linux?
<16> :|
<12> How many of you run postfix?
<12> Are ther any online resources that make searching for specific rpms easier?
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