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<0> xenix & pybe - its fixed - thanks for your help. Seems I was loading 'firefox %u' google suggest was loading the arizona thing. I changed it but didnt update the ksmoothdock.
<0> thanks again
<1> strange .. but .. good you figured it out
<2> anyone got any experience with wireless networking linux with a wpa-enabled access point?
<2> its driving me insane, i reufse to use wep.
<2> iwconfig just doesnt have any options for wpa configuration
<0> create a config file in: etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/
<3> r3c0n: http://www.google.com/linux?q=fedora+wpa
<4> I'm also wondering the same, i need to use wpa, tkip, peap, and mschapv2. I think there is a WPA supplicant package to install
<3> r3c0n: that search finds WPA support in NetworkManager....
<1> r3c0n: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-25891.html
<5> is it possible to route vpn with a redhat/fedora box that's acting as a firewall?
<6> I am not understanding that
<6> my parser is failing on that question
<5> is it possible to put a fedora box in front of a microsoft exchange server and have it act as firewall and have it route vpn connections?
<5> or make it.. whichever word suits you and your parser best



<6> the microsoft exchange is irrevelant. Firewall and vpn are not applicative
<6> so my answer would be yes.
<5> right, thanks
<7> i found 2 bugs lately. How i report them?
<8> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/
<7> is there any tool?
<8> Web browser.
<7> :)
<7> ok
<9> hey people
<9> any kernel gurus around here? we've got a system that won't boot with the latest FC4 kernel, the error given is: BUG: Spinlock bad magic on CPU#0, swapper/1 (Not tainted)
<10> Hi all!
<9> the system is an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (mobo: Sapphire PURE Innovation, 512mb ram, two SATA drives)
<11> sehh: I had that same error but sometimes it won't even boot
<12> heya all!
<11> sehh: Mine is a Dell intel box
<9> also, the above error is followed by: BUG: Spinlock lockup on CPU#0, <put some garbage characters here>/0, ffffffff80450690 (Not tainted)
<9> gcr: have you tried an older kernel?
<11> We've written it off as a bad cpu/mother board. It ran for years and then just died
<11> Yes the old kernel that used to work
<9> hmm
<10> I've finally decided to learn c++ or java. I just don't know both languages, so it's difficult for me to decide. Are there any pro's or cons for any of them?
<12> im pleased now :) I'm just installing FC5t3
<11> I should say for months. About 1 year
<9> this system is brand new
<11> FRET: strange place to ask a dev question like that, no?
<11> And it boots with the older kernel fine?
<11> My problem was heat related... After it cooled down it would boot
<9> gcr: yes, i even tried a few other operating systems, they all worked fine (windoze xp, etc)
<9> not here, the temps are very low, around 30-40C
<9> hmm weird
<11> Interesting... same error, but definitely sounds like a different problem.
<9> hmmm
<11> Where during boot up do you get this problem?
<9> hmm about 1/3 of the way while the kernel is loading
<10> gcr, yes...you're right. But as I use FC4 this is my normal channel :-). What I wanted to ask is if any of those to languages would be of greater benefit with respect to developing fedora-apps
<10> *two
<9> hmm lets see if freebsd 6 boots...
<11> FRET: cool, your language should depend on your needs
<11> FRET: I'd suggest Ruby or Java, unless you're looking for performance
<11> For Desktop Apps you can use Ruby+Gtk or Java+Swing
<11> For Web apps you can use Ruby on Rails or any Free J2EE container.
<11> Since Fedora doesn't ship with the real Java I'd say python or ruby
<13> ARGH !!! I've just accidentally erased my PATH ... (PATH=\usr\local\stata;$PATH) (should have been :$PATH) ... is it safe somewhere I can retrieve it?
<11> Anybody have any input on the Fedora Java issue. I won't use the gcj, it doesn't seem to do well for complicated apps.
<4> I have a winXP machine running an X11 server with xclock displayed, how can I connect to this server from my fedora box and see the xclock ?
<14> FRET, and the last edition of the Ruby pickaxe book is free to download
<11> soon: source /etc/bashrc
<10> gcr, what about c++?
<15> soon, the path is in the path.
<11> I'm using c++ right now, but you can be 2-10 times more productive in other languages
<10> honestly I've never heard of ruby before.... :-)
<11> good point zcat!
<11> I have the printed book and still use the online one because its right there!
<11> FRET: all the cool kids are doing it :-)
<13> thanks
<10> gcr, :-)
<11> soon: yw
<11> zcat, what are your fav languages?
<10> gcr, is ruby platform-independent?



<11> yes
<11> It is interpretted so as long as there is a ruby interpreter your good to go.
<11> There is the one click installer for windows -- although I spend all of my time in Linux
<11> I am especially fond of the Ruby-Gtk bindings
<14> gcr, I progressed thusly: gw-basic, x86 asm, C, shell, C/CGI, PHP, python & ruby. with some also-rans i've forgotten.
<9> hmmm freebsd 6 boots fine
<11> I am currently working on using SWIG to wrap the c++ libraries I've written so I can move forward with Ruby w/o throwing away my current c++ libraries...
<9> lets try windoze vista...
<10> gcr, I'm working only in linux, but maybe I have to develop something (some day) which also runs on win or someting else
<14> 5.times { print "like... omg!\n" }
<11> sehh: Have you tried a non SMP kernel?
<11> zcat: lol
<10> gcr, is ruby as popular as java or c++? Or is it just becoming popular?
<11> Just becoming
<11> Python has been around longer than Java and is very popular in non Corporate environments (such as for Linux dev)
<9> gcr: i dont think i'm using an smp kernel, i'd expect FC4 to understand that i'm not on an SMP machine
<15> I don't see what all the questions about what languages are popular etc, as gcr stated a language serves a purpose. If you don't know the language, you can't write in it, if you write in it you'd know all the questions you are asking.
<16> is paramValue a command.. ? but i dont find it in my box
<15> Ruby is similar to Python, I've heard.
<13> I've installed a statistial software package (not through rpm) called Stata8 ... Its installed in /usr/local/stata - I get permission denied when trying to run /usr/local/stata/stata although : -rwxr-x--x 1 188 users 2003992 Sep 9 2003 stata
<10> AutOPSY, ok...
<11> sehh, I've had trouble with Hyperthreaded boxes using the smp kernel
<13> why's that, when its got +x ??
<15> soon, you need r-x to execute something.
<15> soon, if you can't read it, you can't execute it, if you are denied execute, you can't execute it either.
<9> gcr: this is just an athlon 64 3500+, no hyperthreading
<11> sehh, gotcha I forgot you said that ealier... I'm stumped
<13> I've tried chmod +r ./* and now have: -rwxr-xr-x 1 188 users 2003992 Sep 9 2003 stata
<13> but it still wont execute
<10> gcr, thx for the info :-)
<15> What is the particular error, just permission denied?
<13> bash: /usr/local/stata/stata: Permission denied
<11> FRET: yw
<15> soon, is it an ELF executable or a shell script, or what?
<11> maybe no read in /usr/local/stata?
<13> gcr : I've chmod'ed that as well
<13> cant tell what it is (ELF or otherwise)
<13> perhaps, I should just install in home dir?
<15> soon, yes, but file can. Run: file /path/yourfile
<17> ok im having an issue with the installer, the first screen shows correctly then when i try to boot (i have tried nofb and text options) the system locks with a flashing cursor in the top left
<13> ELF 32 bit
<15> soon, run: ls -lZ /usr/local/stata/stata
<15> soon, print the line here.
<13> -rwxr-xr-x 188 users /usr/local/stata/stata
<13> I cant even cd to /usr/local/stata as user
<15> soon, run: echo $UID
<11> ls -lZ /usr/local
<13> echo $UID 500
<11> sorry AutOPSY I'll let you handle it ;-)
<13> ls -lZ /usr/local
<13> drw-rw-rw- 188 users stata
<15> soon, you have roasted your directory permissions.. there really is nothing you can do, except fix it.. of course.
<11> need execute on the directory
<12> quit
<12> oops
<13> I can now execute
<13> thanks
<14> clemency!
<13> I'm now in business ... running Stata8 :-) Thanks for your help!
<17> is there a way to boot the installer wit ha 2.4 kernal 2.6 apears to have issues with my hardware ive hadsimilar problems with many distributions
<15> You don't want to.
<15> What is the issue with your hardware?
<17> basicaly after boot loader or the first screen of the isntaller in this case the system locks witha blinking cursor in the top left hand corner
<17> yet 2.4 works
<15> Which screen?
<1> scopeuk: exactly what problems?
<17> oh sorry when the isntaller first load a screen comes up for boot options
<1> there are options you can p*** to the kernel before it boots
<17> xenix it refuses to boot
<1> that is not an answer
<1> define the problem you are experiencing
<15> scopeuk, pressing enter, usually initiates the kernel boot and install process.
<17> i have tried that AutOPSY ive also tried the nofb and text options
<15> Yes, and what happens?


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