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<0> hmm the torrent of fc5t3 dvd iso is pretty slow
<1> How do I start the telnet service on FC4?
<1> I know telnet is bad for no encryption but encryption isn't what I'm looking for.
<2> stevo9999: edit /etc/xinetd.d/telnet and change 'disable=yes' to 'disable=no'
<2> but you _really_ shouldn't need telnet. Why can't you use SSH?
<1> If I'm connecting via a Doze box I'd have to download SSH software which on some machines I wont have install privs
<1> Or can I connect using windows telnet on the SSH port?
<2> mindterm is an ssh client in java, which runs in a browser
<2> and putty is just a single executable which can run from anywhere, iirc
<1> Is Telnet as easy as pie to retrieve p***words from? If you know how.
<3> Yeah, you can use putty without installing it.
<3> Why'd you need to retrieve p***words?
<2> it's trivial to see the p***words if you use telnet
<2> they're clear text on the wire
<2> you really shouldn't use telnet unless every network segment between client and server is entirely secure
<1> I see. That's why people froun upon telnet?
<1> frown
<2> indeed
<2> because you'd have to smoke crack to want to use it, these days
<4> stevo9999: i love telnet.. i love it when people on the internal network at work use telnet
<2> seriously, use putty and mindterm
<3> stevo9999: I have putty on my USB fob :)
<2> personally I just refuse to use Windows machines
<2> much easier like that
<2> s'worked for most of the last decade
<1> Jef - You love it because you're a spy? ;-)
<3> dwmw2: You obviously don't have to use uni lab machines ;)
<5> dwmw2: you can use putty on unix you know. :P
<2> Not any more. And when I did, they ran Linux
<3> dwmw2: Lucky. :) Ours were unix terms until a year or so before I joined :(
<3> I try to use my iBook now if I can.
<2> my powerbook runs Linux too :)
<3> Heh, nah, macOS is nice :)
<1> Have you got an Xbox?
<2> have never really played with osx
<2> it's still installed, but I never really had time to play with it. I always need to get stuff done, so I use Linux
<3> stevo9999: Nope.
<3> dwmw2: It's nice. It does what you want it to do.
<2> does it?
<1> I find Linux is the long way to do stuff at the minute. Still in a learning process though
<3> Umm.. er... fedora rox!
<3> :p
<6> I'm struggling with FC5t2
<7> all of my production boxes run Linux
<3> stevo9999: It's a steap leaning curve, but once you have it, it's nice.
<3> Camilo: What's the problem?
<7> I have like 2 machines that are still Winblows
<3> I have 1 windows, for testing.
<8> I keep on changing my dad's servers over to FC4, he hasn't noticed yet
<6> cds, I have installed it but xorg won't run unless I disable dri and the touchpad driver (synaptics)
<1> Cds: It seems a lot of h***le with no reward. Maybe one day I'll realise what the reward is?
<6> It looks like the syn driver is compiled for the wrong xorg, or something
<2> stevo9999: http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/pnt/mindterm/
<3> Camilo: Hm, I wouldn't use dri anyway.
<3> stevo9999: If you have linux installed, may as well stick with that.
<6> cds, the default is to use it, so by default it won't run X - tricky
<9> can anyone tell me what kde release is available with FC4?
<10> what does firstboot in FC5T* mean/do?
<1> Cds: Any advantages over the ssh cmd with FC4?
<3> stevo9999: What do you mean?
<2> advantages of putty over openssh client?
<3> Camilo: You can disab;e it by editing the file in /etc/yum.repos/
<1> Does Mindterm have advantages over ssh?
<2> stevo9999: it runs in a web browser on windows, without having to isntall anything
<7> I can't open a .php file in Firefox on this box..
<7> dunno y
<1> Oh I see, I thought it was another ssh client for linux.
<8> I just prefer the ssh in xterm, 'cos it was what i was first introduced to :)
<3> rxgod: You can't directly open a php file.
<3> rxgod: It needs to go through a web server.
<1> If I connect to a box via Mindterm will it show as my IP as connecting or Cambs uni?
<6> cds I'm talking about xorg dri not some yum repository
<3> Camilo: Oh, sorry. I'm not all here today :)
<9> Camilo, you can disable dri in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
<6> thanks tdr I'm saying I /had/ to do that to get an X server running! It hangs the machine otherwise. I will try to bugzilla it
<9> Camilo, what type of card?
<7> Trying to use a piece of software called Gallery2 (kinda like webshots)
<6> tdr, ATI M22 (Radeon Mobility M300)
<6> and a pesky 1920x1200 screen
<9> hrm, dri works on my friend's with that card, its not fedora tho
<7> hmm
<10> if i squash some files of a directory, then mount it, then copy the files to another directory, the files are no longer squashed right?
<3> 'squashed'?
<3> You mean compressed?
<10> compresed with squashfs
<10> ie. mksquashfs
<11> ChitleshGoorah: right
<10> stupid me!
<10> is there a way that i can asked mksquash not to squash certain files but do compress the rest of the directory?
<10> ask
<1> Are there any portscan programs with FC4?
<12> nmap
<10> anyone?
<13> stevo9999: like nmap?
<14> ethereal also
<14> no wait scratch that
<3> ethereal isn't port scanning, is it?
<14> no its a packet sniffer, sorry
<1> Nmap has worked fine. Thanx
<1> I'm not planning any attacks. Just checking where httpd runs
<3> odyssey: That was my initial thoughts too. Don't worry ;)
<7> gotta do a bunch of googling
<7> see yall tomorrow
<12> nmap works and if you have gnome use the nettool
<12> port 80 usually
<15> the file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly
<8> only 3 hours 'till
<8> only 3 hours 'till i get my FC5t3 discs :D
<0> is there anyway to use yum to upgrade from FC5T2 to FC5T3
<0> like apt-get dist-upgrade
<16> kronoz, Probably. Visit fedoraproject.org and search for yum upgrade
<8> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades
<8> sooo
<8> has anyone got fc5t3 succesfully installed yet?
<17> Tinned_Tuna: lot's of people.
<8> have you?
<12> whats a good bittorrent client for gnome ?
<8> is it good?
<12> running smooth here
<8> Azeurus?
<5> ok, anyone have an idea why evince is hogging /dev/dsp?
<8> awesome...
<17> lostson: For Fedora Core 4, bittorrent and bittorrent-gui
<8> if these isosare here by morning i might install it on one of the spare desktops at work :)
<12> Foolish, thanks
<8> i have to go now, cya
<18> hi
<18> I've added the nrpms repository to yum, but I'm seeing some strange effects: not all packages are showing up. Is there anything I should look out for which might cause this behaviour?
<19> is there a good desktop manager app that someone could recomend
<19> like, setting different desktop images for each of ym 2 dual monitors
<20> aroman: maybe "yum clean all" and then try again?
<20> I am getting a "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl" error. Any ideas?
<18> zobi[1], k, I'' try
<21> can u upgrade from FC5-t3 to final FC5? w/ yum?
<3> thrasher194: Right now? No :)
<18> zobi[1], k that seems to have fixed the problems for now. Thank you :)
<5> thrasher194: and maybe not when there is an FC5 to upgrade to either
<10> FC5T2 to FC5T3?
<5> ChitleshGoorah: nah, T3 to release
<10> what you mean?
<10> FCT5T2 to FC5T3 ? yes / no :)
<21> i'm not gonna install it on this pc.. yet.. but i may try it on my other box
<22> thrasher194: upgrading to "FCaFinal" from "FCaTestx" is normally not suggested
<22> thrasher194: if you have not yet you should read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Testing
<21> ya thx!
<23> how many people we have here from the UK?
<21> i'm gonna try it on my spare PC
<22> b1n0ry: none
<23> ok, i gotta find a room with lots of UK folks
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