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<0> yeah well this system isn't a supercomputer I have and it is not intended for gaming and other heavy duty things but it ****s that the graphics are so slow
<0> even Win Xp graphics is faster than the gnome
<1> [Denniz]: following the purchase of a dozen k6-2 based machines where I worked I vowed "NEVER AGAIN" will I buy or suggest AMD
<2> BobJensen: things have moved on since 1995
<0> well at least I know the system can work ok becaus KDE was ok but still a bit irritating with the desktop graphics so I guess a light X system will do ok
<3> BobJensen: the K6-III was better.
<3> I have only used AMD since, when I've had a choice
<0> actually I think I have the K6-2+ Mobile version in my system
<0> or something like that, I don't remenber but it is k6-2 and 500mhz with 384mb ram that should be a OK system for running linux / unix system
<1> I dislike AMD, but respect the users, them buying AMD chips has helped push innovation and helped to keep prices down in the midrange/desktop market
<4> why would 'sh /etc/rc5.d/S10network start' work and not 'service network start' ?
<5> no idea
<4> nphilipp, I did a single mode load, then went through the steps upto the network starting, it started fine, then I stopped it, and started it again, and it wouldn't start
<4> any idea what might cause thT?
<6> reflous, was this a clean install or upgrade



<4> Southern_Gentlem, upgrade
<6> how
<7> morning all
<4> i'm about to check the cd's to make sure they were all properly burned, I only checked disc 1 before installation
<6> reflous, how much 3rd party repo stuff was installed
<4> Southern_Gentlem, barely any -- only thing left I think is the NVIDIA driver
<4> how do I disable ipv6 just in case the problem is related to that btw?
<6> reflous, as much problems you are having back up your data and do a clean install
<5> reflous: "install net-pf-19 /bin/true" "install net-pf-3 /bin/true" "install net-pf-6 /bin/true" in /etc/modprobe.conf
<4> nphilipp, that would disable?
<4> Southern_Gentlem, yeah many people have recommended that course of action to me since I've been upgrading since rh9 or 8 :P
<5> reflous: it would prevent loading the relevant modules yes
<8> what's the fedora way of getting fglrx loaded at boot?
<4> Southern_Gentlem, hmmmmm disc2 just failed which means I may have installed corrupted rpms
<4> is there a way to fix and upgrade by reupgrading or anything?
<4> or can I just reinstall the rpms from that cd?
<5> reflous: I doubt you installed corrupted RPMs as they're all individuall checksummed
<5> individually even
<4> nphilipp, last night when I was installing the driver rpm said it was 0 bytes
<6> reflous, the way you are having such strange stuff the time we have already spent on this problem you could have done a clean install 3-4 times
<5> driver rpm?
<4> Southern_Gentlem, except how can I ensure that I don't lose anything? I'm afraid of that...
<4> Southern_Gentlem, all my server settings... data... etc
<4> nphilipp, yeah there was something-driver-something.rpm
<4> Southern_Gentlem, before upgrading I "backed up" everyhing I could think of, but there is always stuff you forget
<5> reflous: I figure your box is still on the non-updated FC5 kernel
<5> reflous: and dhclient
<0> reflous still having problem with network I see
<5> yeah
<0> hihi
<9> Howdy
<9> Quick question
<4> nphilipp, sorry got booted for some resaon, yes I'm still on the non-updated kernel
<10> I hope someone else has had this issue. I just upgraded to FC5 last night. when I try to mount one of my hard drives, I get an error that its not a valid block device. If I run fdisk on it, and just rewrite the table, or run partprobe, then it tells me the drive is already mounted or in use. It does not show up in the mount list though.
<9> Is there a way to use yum to upgrade from FC4 to FC5, or is the CD/DVD a requirement?
<5> reflous: try updating the kernel packages, dhclient package manually, e.g. with a USB stick or whatever maybe it's really a driver/SW issue, not configuration
<5> gotta go
<4> what is considered a "kernel package" ?
<11> I just installed fedora for the first time, and it seems the monitor settings I chose are beyond that which this little monitor can handle; The screen is blank. How can I alter the display settings?
<6> Vlet what happens if you control alt f1
<11> Nothing :/
<11> although I've already tried a whole slew of other key combos
<10> man, this is pissing me off.
<11> c-a-back, c-a-+, etc
<6> Vlet, reboot
<6> when grub comes up press e add a 3 to the end of the kernelline
<12> Vlet: boot to runlevel 3 and run system-config-display --reconfig
<11> I'll give that a go. Thanks Southern_Gentlem
<10> Lesson Learned: Don't upgrade/fix what isnt broken.
<13> Okay I just got a Canon Powershot SD450 but I can't figure out how to mount it with FC5 (I ***umed it would automount) anyone have a good resource?
<11> StillBob: upon running system-config-display --reconfig, the screen went blank again... How do you kill X in fedora?
<13> Ctrl-ALT-Backspace
<10> Ok, I think it might be time to just go back to FC4
<11> That's what I ***umed... Maybe this monitor is trashed finally :/
<13> psyon why?
<14> hi, is there any unofficial repository with xgl for fc5 ?
<10> having issuing mounting a drive
<10> I hope someone else has had this issue. I just upgraded to FC5 last night. when I try to mount one of my hard drives, I get an error that its not a valid block device. If I run fdisk on it, and just rewrite the table, or run partprobe, then it tells me the drive is already mounted or in use. It does not show up in the mount list though.
<10> sorry, I just hit up to repeat the message
<10> I found one other person that posted on a mailing ilst with the same problem, but no resolution was given on the list



<10> I can run reiserfsck on the drive and it runs fine and reports no issues.
<15> What syntax should I use to be able to forward an SSH tunnel between two servers -- I want to have a console login banner available from my work machine on my home machine; I have access to ssh to my ome machine from work but not the reverse; Thanks
<13> psyon, oh sorry can't help with that. I'm trying to figure out how to mount my Digital camara. All my drives mounted fine in FC5 though.
<16> any way to diable forced FSCK on bootup in RH 7.2?
<17> RH 7.2? are you for real?
<16> for the time being
<16> yes
<13> OMG I haven't seen one of those if forever. I still have a client on RH 9 and feel like I'm in the stone ages.
<16> this is an old box im trying to get some files off of
<13> can you use a rescue disk?
<16> i guess i could download the cd1 iso
<13> or use a Live CD to mount the drives get the info you want off.
<16> so, i'm guessing there is no way to kill/skip the fsck
<13> I have *no* idea
<18> hi all
<19> hi
<18> I'm trying to bind to a LDAP server using Kerberos auth, but the LDAP clients are built without Kerberos support. This way, I get the src.rpm and changed the .spec so it builds the clients with Kerberos support, updates my utilities with this new RPM and it still saying to me that Kerberos support it's not enable in that utility
<18> anyone has alerdy enabled Kerberos support in LDAP clients of Fedora?
<20> hey all, how would i fix xorg, i installed fglrx drivers...but now display wont show...what can i do to put it back, im in init 3
<21> eliasz : deal system-config-display --reconfig.
<20> kk
<22> guys I need some help with sendmail...
<22> and I think that the problem is a bit fedora related
<22> or maybe windows... haha
<23> anyone here using Amarok on FC5 ?
<10> ok, back to FC4 then.
<8> what's the trick to autoload fglrx module on boot as to not conflict with rhgb?
<24> math1236, probably can't. RHGB uses a built in vesa mode or something right?
<24> math1236, can you turn off RHGB? Is there a bug report about this?
<25> math1236, use the livna packages.
<26> hello
<26> anyone here?
<22> lunchtime... I asked too
<26> <-- linux newb, how do i get to root? /root? once im in terminal?
<27> root user? root path?
<26> root user i guess
<28> you guess? what are you trying to do?
<22> to login as root?
<26> yes login as root
<28> e|e^Shogun: "su -"
<22> su -
<28> it'll then prompt you for root's pw
<28> don't leave off the -
<26> ok thanks
<26> got it
<26> anyone use putty?, im going to buy a dedicated server, but first im learning on a laptop with fedora installed
<29> you're going to buy a dedicated server with fedora on it?
<26> yes
<29> #1 why would you buy a dedicated server with fedora on it .. and #2 where is this being offered?
<26> let me get the link for you :D
<29> the lifecycle of fedora is very short compared to other distros ..
<29> many places that offer "fedora" on their dedicated servers have usually screwed it up so bad you wouldn't be able to get help here
<29> godaddy is the largest offender
<26> hmm
<30> hi all - i would like to install fc5 but only have 1 80gb disk that is nearly full - is there any way of moving all the data i want to keep into one directory and putting this on the last sectors of the disk so that i can dynamically create a partition a the front of the disk and only overright this in the installation of the os
<29> i believe redhat legal is having a talkign to with godaddy
<28> good!
<28> if they're going to bastardize it, they should at least not claim it's fedora anymore
<29> indeed
<26> wow then i should stay away, then can i still learn on fedora?
<25> Fiver, since the cdrecord issue the term bastardized always makes me laugh
<25> Fiver, hehe
<29> e|e^Shogun: of course you can
<26> learn how to putty into linux and run commands? ok cool
<29> i recommend it highly as a desktop
<29> not as a dedicated server
<28> che: sorry, I'm not familiar with that issue
<25> Fiver, look for the cdrecord homepage
<29> you could use it for a server you have physical access too .. but then i'd just suggest you use rhel or centos if you're on a budget
<25> Fiver, its worth a laugh :)
<28> looking..
<25> Fiver, thing is the author is selling an enhanced version of cdrecord that can burn dvds
<25> Fiver, and of course he didnt accept any patches to make cdrecord burn dvds :)


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