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<0> phoenixz: and there isn't much hardware config that's written to disk in fedora. you have the /etc/modprobe.* and /etc/X11/xorg.conf and probably some others, so moving from machine to machine should as you see work somewhat ok.
<0> phoenixz: you will run into trouble if you change hd controllers though.
<1> AndyCap: so phoenixz changing motherboards is not an issue?
<0> mafioso_ph: no, it can cause issues sometimes. but no real reason to reinstall everytime either
<0> phoenixz: anyhow. you could look at the rate of growth for the interrupts in /proc/interrupts
<0> phoenixz: and next time it dies, make sure you run a dmesg to see what if anything the kernel has logged
<2> I should see more showing up in /proc/interrupts? or how?
<2> I will do that yeah, stupid that I didnt think of that yet myself.
<0> phoenixz: if I'm not much mistaken uchi_hcd is usb 1.1 controller and echi_hcd your usb 2.0 controller. No idea if both have ports or not.
<0> phoenixz: but you should be able to tell from lsusb -v I guess
<0> phoenixz: no /proc/interrupts contains the interrupts, what modules if any uses them and how many times they've occured
<3> howdy all
<0> phoenixz: as for an automated install you should look at kickstart.
<0> phoenixz: but I don't think the support for other repos during kickstart is complete in anaconda (the installer) yet. I dunno. You could make your own custom install tree and do network kickstarts from it
<2> kickstart should be able to have an install with all that, that is, which packages I want, what configuration (x, kde, etc) I want, and all yum installs?
<3> so, im having a problem with the php-mysql package,
<3> even though it's installed <function_exists("mysql_connect")> returns false
<3> any suggestions?
<3> this worked fine on other distros for me
<0> theconley: did you restart apache?
<2> that would be cool.. :) anyway, afaik I dont need a reinstall just yet.. its not windows XP we are talking about here :)
<3> shoot, that would make sense wouldnt it?
<2> look in the ##php channel,
<3> k, thx
<1> crappy windows lolz
<0> phoenixz: /root/anaconda-ks.cfg contains your initial setup as a kickstart file.
<2> thconley: if that returns false, the function works ok, it just cant connect to mysql
<0> phoenixz: function exists, not the function
<0> ;)
<3> really? that's slightly counter-intuitive
<0> theconley: ignore that. :-) you had it right
<3> thanks dude, that's all i needed, restarting the httpd service worked fine
<3> Man, I tried out ubuntu recently....ugh, can running back to fedora
<2> right.. :) anyway, I'll take a look into kickstart later.. for now, I will keep an eye on the kernel modules, and interrupts
<3> came*
<4> my fedora CDs keep failing the initial integrity test, but I have done everything right, even burning again. Do I really need to worry?
<5> no
<4> oh!
<4> that's promising
<0> icheyne: did you check the isos before you burnt them?
<4> I burnt them with Xubuntu's utility xfburn
<4> and I downloaded off bittorrent which hashes them
<4> the isos are definitely OK
<4> but I suppose it's possible that xfburn is screwing up
<0> go ahead. there has been a bug in the media verify, And I don't know if it has been fixed
<4> oh right thanks
<4> I'll give it a go
<4> :)
<4> cya later
<4> I've given up on Kubuntu, so I'm trying Fedora. Fingers crossed
<0> icheyne: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=186512
<4> great
<4> that's a relief
<4> thanks for finding that
<4> took me ages to download the effing things
<4> :)
<3> lol, funny, i just came back to fedora from trying out xubuntu
<3> last night
<4> xubuntu is pretty good, much more solid than Kubuntu, that's for sure
<4> works nice on this old pc
<4> I'm trying Fedora on my main machine
<3> yea, i liked xfce ok, just not ubuntu
<3> ill admit, kde is pretty unstable compared to the others
<3> but i still like it a lot
<3> it's what i use on my machine
<4> I'm going to try to stick to KDE on Fedora. I hope it works out
<4> getting very bored of fiddling about with basic config stuff
<3> yea
<5> KDE on fedora is alright
<6> RootSnatch, it's greeeeat - for people who don't like being stuck inside the KISS gnome box.
<7> fluxbox is pretty groovy "desktop environment"
<4> phew
<6> thrasher194, wm, sure
<5> I know
<5> I use flux on my old laptop
<7> xfce is awesome too. :)
<3> some of us aren't man enough to use flux
<7> i like them both better then gnome
<5> on this laptop xfce was too resource intensive
<3> anything is better than gnome
<3> i found this recently
<3> you all might find it funny
<3> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html
<6> gnome-style menus also "burn-in" LCD displays too much. i like having one panel that autohides
<3> linus calls the gnome people interface nazis and someone calls kde people feature sluts
<8> theconley: they do have a point though: GNOME is sponsored by large companies that try to minimize support calls
<9> zcat
<9> no modern lcd should have burn in issues
<6> theconley, if the gnome people simple made "advanced" functions easier to access a lot of complains would go away
<6> flyback, well, it's called "image persistance" but it's the same thing
<9> dude
<6> flyback, sweet
<9> it doesn't happen on modern displays
<6> flyback, it does.
<6> flyback, http://compreviews.about.com/od/monitors/a/LCDBurnIn.htm
<6> flyback, in fact - I see it on my 2 month old Dell 20" lcd.
<8> zcat: but try to imagine what would you do if your job was to minimize support calls.
<10> I am using minicom and I can connect to the device but I cannot type any commands to it?
<10> Is there a trick to being able to send commands via the keyboard with fc5?
<9> so set a screensaver then
<8> zcat: theconley: a big problem with GNU/Linux distros, all too evidents in these channels, is that most users try to do things that are well beyond them, because they think that accessibility equates with usability: if it is accessible, anybody then should be able to use it.
<11> hello all
<6> flyback, uhm, I do. the "burn-in" is mostly gone after a night of SS & powersave, but at the end of 12hrs of use, if anything was constantly onscreen, you can see it's ghost
<10> and minicom claims to be offline even though the device is asking for a p***word
<11> I have one quick question about mbr .. I want to clean my mbr on one of my hdd's but i dont want to format the partitions on it... what tool can i use.. im on windoze .. can i use the fc5 install disc for this?
<3> blis***: yea, i guess i hadnt really given it that much thought
<6> flyback, mostly the top menubar strip, and a couple verticle window borders where the contrast is high
<12> Where are the definitions of what program opens what type of files by default in Fedora?
<6> Blis***, default accessibility is fine, but that doesn't preclude having an "expert" button everywhere
<8> zcat: but of course everybody in this channel or elsewhere who has just installed a distro would press the ''expert'' button; if it is there it must be for me too... :-)
<8> zcat: if you want to see just how insane some (many) people are, just follow a bit the discussions in #iptables for kicks :-)
<3> haha
<8> zcat: you can also watch the endless stream of questions in #Debian that start with ''I just installed 'unstable' and I am a n00b, why doesn it work?'''
<9> anyone here used dmraid with fedora or rhel
<3> nope
<6> Blis***, All I'm saying is that only reason I don't use gnome is because you have to use that gnome-conf (i think thats it) registry-like thing to make most advanced changes. if there was a standard gui like KDE's control center, i'd be more inclined to use it after tweaks.
<6> (e.g. gnome's panels can't be completely hidden/covered by other windows like in KDE)
<6> (i want all the realestate)
<8> zcat: that is an all too microsoft-like strategy...
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