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<0> thanks anyway
<1> just a quick question, with FC5, how many CDs are needed for a default install, GNOME no office suite?
<2> pab89: all 5
<2> pab89: that is as good of a guess as any
<1> I heard 2 somewhere, just thought I should check
<2> pab89: you will need 1 and 2 for sure
<3> tobi1canobe, disable mixing is not checked.. :()
<3> :(
<4> nero: Do you have 2 wav files handy?
<2> pab89: any time you start adding or removing packages, picking ponies is easier than guessing the CDs needed
<3> no.. lemme grab some..
<5> did anyone see my question
<2> neo2005: yup
<6> mikefoo: you may need to put 'append initrd=path/initrd.img' in the pxelinux.cfg
<2> neo2005: you asked "is it possible to get help here"
<3> tobi1canobe, got 2 available now.



<4> try aplay file1.wav
<5> then two lines later i asked my question
<5> <5> how can i use screen with sudo or su
<2> neo2005: Yup saw that also
<3> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1305:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card; ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:865:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave; aplay: main:547: audio open error: No such device
<6> um.. sudo screen?
<5> basicaly i need to start somthing on boot but as another user
<4> nero: kill all the other apps that are doing sound
<2> neo2005: have you looked at the screen man page or info page at all>
<3> everything is killed.. still getting the error.. :(
<3> doh.. phone.. brb.
<5> yes i have bobjenson ive even googled this error "[root@localhost ~]# sudo -u css1 /home/css1/srcds_l/start.sh
<5> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check.
<7> anyone here good with installing drivers for webcams ?
<8> please tell me that, in 2006, there is a way to add items to the Gnome Applications menu that doesn't involve manually editing/creating a conf file.
<2> auto-jack: yum install alacarte or is is ala-carte
<2> auto-jack: it is in the "Extras" repository
<5> how to start a prog at boot but it not running as root
<8> BobJensen: alacarte is it, looks like. thanks!!
<2> auto-jack: glad to help
<8> hah, it crashes when it shows the selection menu
<9> anyone experience slow ssh logins?
<10> blkcamarozr28: yup on slow servers.
<4> Sonar_Guy: :-) I think we may have met before!
<10> possibly!!
<9> sonar: But the server is fast...just not sure whats causing the slow login...takes 8 seconds sometimes to get in
<10> hehe
<10> network traffic will cause slow logins.
<4> Like at a hrlug meeting a while back
<5> i know how to setup things to start at boot but how as a different user
<8> blkcamarozr28: misconfigured DNS on the remote server will cause a slow login
<10> Not yet, seems every time I get a chance to be in town for twugg Something comes up.
<8> blkcamarozr28: you have to wait for the reverse lookup to time out on the other end before it proceeds with login. that has burned me 2384729834 times.
<9> auto- thanks! That makes sense
<4> Sonar_Guy: Darn, I moved away since then, Would have been funny if we had shaken hands before
<8> blkcamarozr28: once you get logged in, do some nslookups and see if they're slow. check that DNS is up on whatever servers are configured in resolv.conf, etc
<10> Chelsie: I'm not into cyber***. Please keep it in the channel!!
<10> tobi1canobe: when were you here?
<3> tobi1canobe, I'm back, sorry about that.
<2> Sonar_Guy: that is not what Sonar_Gal says
<10> lol
<4> Sonar_Guy till last summer
<11> BobJensen, lol
<10> You still on the list?
<4> Sonar_Guy: I don't think I ever was. :-/
<10> twuug mailing list that is?
<10> Ah, ok
<12> Chelsie, can't be as bad as mine :P
<10> tobi1canobe: you ever work on navsta norfolk?
<5> [root@localhost ~]# sudo -u css1 /home/css1/srcds_l/start.sh
<5> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check.
<5> can any one explain that error because i googled it and got nothing
<4> Sonar_Guy: I was doing construction. You ever had some plumbing done by a phd in your house? That was me...
<13> hi. I'd like to try fedora out but downloading five cds seems a bit much... how many do I actually need?
<10> Nope.
<10> hehe
<10> muep: depends on your installation you may need 1 you may need 5, but with the dvd image your covered.
<12> neo2005, baisically .. the terminal /dev/pty/0 either doesn't exist, or you don't have permissions to use it.
<13> I have no dvd drive... otherwise would use it



<10> got 2 linux boxes?
<4> nero: Do you have any sound daemon running?
<13> somewhere I heard that 2 cds would be enough for a basic install
<3> I dont think so.. I just got it to work using plug:dmix
<13> yes, I have two linux boxes
<7> argh
<10> nfs install off the dvd iso?
<4> nero: What did you do?
<7> i just rran the command lsusb and got this 0ac8:301b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 WebCam
<7> then i closed the terminal
<7> and got back on it and typed it again
<7> and it says it cant find lsusb
<7> wtf ?
<3> tobi1canobe: aplay -D plug.dmix 01.wav
<3> er, -D plug:dmix
<14> Chelsie: lsusb is not in a normal user's path
<5> crippsfx| im trying to run sudo the script it runs is a screen window, do u know how to get around it
<13> Sonar_Guy: nah, maybe another time... soon I will get a new computer with a dvdrw-drive :)
<10> pretty simple actually and fast.
<4> nero: Ok we need to get it to work without the switch, that's your problem. (plus using xmms)
<13> a howto somewhere?
<3> sounds good to me :)
<10> muep: hold on a sec
<12> neo2005, keep the convo in the main window please.
<13> Is it common for the ftp install to fail?
<3> I am ***uming I am going to have to play with a .asoundrc file?
<12> neo2005, the thing is, right now I don't have time to think about it ... I'm busy working on a java course.
<13> I thought it might fail because of some patch that has got into the repos
<4> nero: Somehow your default pcm is messed up.
<5> fair enought crippsFX i only want to start things up at boot BUT not as root
<4> nero: yes or system wide /etc/alsa. No real doc for that tough.
<15> hi all
<3> ok.. not really sure what to do with these .asoundrc files.. was trying to play with one to fix this prob, but go nowhere..
<16> heyho, how do i add an initd module to a runlevel?
<12> neo2005, there are ways to do it ... but, even if I had time, I don't know offhand how.
<10> muep: you got broadband?
<13> yes
<10> http://www.damaestro.us/howtos/installing-fedora-core-5-using-rescue-cd-netinstall/
<16> well i see lots of symlinks in /etc/rc.d/rc?.d/ but is there another way to do so? or which level should i add it to?
<13> hmm... when is fedora core 6 expected?
<10> muep: that is for net install.
<4> Let me post a simple ~/.asoundrc and see if it works.
<3> ok.
<10> muep: september iirc
<13> quite soon, it seems...
<17> core6 test 1 is due out soonish...
<10> muep: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Core/Schedule
<4> nero: http://pastebin.com/707201
<10> brb
<3> ok.. tobi1canobe that works such that I can play one sound at a time (aplay now works)
<18> heard that before
<11> Bob Bite me!!!
<4> nero: try aplay file1.wav & aplay file2.wav
<3> oh wait.. it is letting me do two aplay wavs at a time..
<18> you wish
<11> hehe
<18> Sonar_Gal: the great thing is when Sonar_Guy says "BRB" he normally means it
<19> Can anyone recomend a hardware/software combination that allows me to draw on my desk as a shared whiteboard across the internet? (Windows and Fedora)
<3> ok.. cool, so it is working for aplay.. (yay!) :)
<18> Nuxi: was looking for one last week, no dice
<11> StillBob, I no
<4> nero: just don't use any oss apps (like xmms) and you should be fine then.
<20> Has any one had experience with i2o device drivers ... specifically the DPT SmartRAID V Controller?
<3> hehe.. ok.. xmms lists an alsa output..
<3> can I use that?? or is it not "really" alsa?
<18> Nuxi: we found one but it reqired a Lotus server..not in my budget
<4> nero: I didn't see the xmms-alsa package, so I thought it didn't exist. Try playing in xmms then and at the same time with aplay
<3> nope.. no go.. :(
<4> nero: even if you use the alsa output in xmms?
<3> nope..
<18> Nuxi: take it to the track and bet on the long shot all day and win, might have enough then
<3> I restarted it and everything.. no change..
<4> nero: do aplay -L and put it on pastebin


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