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<0> strange any other engine other than clearlooks is FINE
<0> is anyone awake
<1> Sonar_Guy you in?
<2> xchat segfaults whenever a menu is clicked... when opening there is "warning: ~/.fonts.conf, line 17 invalid constant used : " could this be causing it?
<2> line 17 simply reads" <const></const>"
<0> how to add mp3 support to bmp.i386 from extras?
<0> o_o
<3> anybody seen Jeff lately?
<0> o_O
<3> siimo: you'll need some mp3 package from livna, dunno which one though
<0> rjune: i got one from dries and i think it works thanks anyway
<3> k
<0> i have this weird problem where if i gran root status it is never forgotten for GUI programs
<0> i dont use gnome so i cant use the notification icon to forget it
<0> im in XFCE and it wont show up there
<4> siimo: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems#head-69c9770fc2ef79ea9a691d03aa2f475eed113bfa



<0> thats about mp3 right i got that working thanks
<4> Interestingly enough, NTFS support is upstreamed so "supported natively in Linux" is a bit of a misguided reasoning for not supporting NTFS I believe.
<0> any way to forget fedora's authenitication ?
<5> right click on the yellow badge n choose forget authorization
<5> oh wait... duh
<5> wrong thing eh?
<0> f_newton: i dont see that badge in XFCE
<0> it is the right thing but i dont see it
<5> lol thats too bad
<3> siimo: does XFCE have a system tray applet?
<0> rjune: yeah gaim is docked in that applet
<5> hey rjune how are you?
<3> broke
<5> egads
<5> me too
<5> still looking for work?
<3> siimo: that's where the icon for auth should be
<3> yeha
<3> I expect an offer this ee
<3> week
<5> I will pray for you...
<3> pray that they offer me enough to convince my wife to move
<5> uh what???
<5> you want her to move???
<3> Uhm, yeah
<3> It would **** balls to take a job in MT and leave my wife here
<3> f_newton: I didn't tell you taht bit did I
<5> ahhhh ok that makes sense
<0> rjune: yeah i know except its not there
<5> heh
<3> siimo: sorry mate.
<5> montana?
<3> I wish I knew more about XFCE and could help there
<5> lol use gnome
<3> I would say drop to a shell and do ps aux and look for stuff that might be consolehelper(I think that's the name of the program)
<0> is there a way to permanantly disable that auth caching ?
<5> the days of minimal existence have p***ed
<3> f_newton: yeah, montana
<5> gateway?
<0> gnome-pty-helper?
<5> but if you want something that screws up on a regular basis try kde
<5> lmao
<0> f_newton: why would i use gnome when xfce is much faster and cooler the new 4.4beta http://members.lycos.co.uk/siimo2005/screenshots/screenshot20060604.jpg
<5> yeah ok
<5> I guess my box has enough resources where the difference in speed is not really noticable
<5> and I like gnome
<5> :)
<6> What makes KDE screw up on a regular basis?
<0> i got plenty of resources but i still prefer xfce
<5> its glitchy like a new model ford
<5> in my opinion
<6> ok
<6> I feel cramped in Gnome
<5> cramped?
<5> lol
<5> thats a new one
<6> I'll be using it
<6> and just all of a sudden feel cramped
<6> I can't explain it
<5> really the last time I used kde it really was glitchy... that was with rh 9
<5> uh 8



<5> not nine
<0> window shading with mouse wheel up/down is really good when working wiht a lot of windoiws
<0> unfortunately i cant in gnome
<5> gnome has window shading doesnt it?
<0> yep
<6> I don't really like GUIs
<0> but not with mouse while up/down
<5> oh
<5> Uchiha: whatever you like
<6> That's probably why
<0> maybe you can set a keybinding for it
<0> but i couldnt
<5> different strokes n all
<0> have to say yum has gotten a LOT faster
<0> than say fc1 or fc2
<5> was no yum in fc1
<0> oh.. i cant remember
<5> I think fc3 was when I started using yum
<6> The last time I used yum was when I used FC3
<0> i used apt-get in fc1
<5> I liked apt-get and synaptic a lot
<0> then i used debian after that and fc5 now
<0> i tried fc3 but it only stayed on my pc for like 2 hrs
<6> I used gentoo after that
<6> now I'm going to try out FC5 on my best pc...
<5> fc3 was really pretty good
<5> debian is ...well debian
<0> i had grub problems with fc3
<5> I had hdd rewriting problems with fc2
<5> but it was the kernel not redhat or fedora
<5> i had the same problems with every distro using that kernel
<0> in my opinion fc5 = most polished fc since fc1
<0> i used fc1 for like 6-7 months it ran great
<6> That's good to know
<6> I'm preparing a hard drive for it now
<5> yeah fc1 did run good
<5> err well
<5> lol im even starting to type like a moron
<0> yeah i even upgraded gnome in fc1 from a 3rd party repo and used it for a while when fc2 was out
<5> I did not like fc2 much
<0> but with fc5 now and xorg i have open source gfx drivers for my radeon 9250 and it runs great :D
<5> no offense dev guys
<5> ...
<5> I ran a 9250 for quite a while
<0> running bzflag at 1280x1024 max settings at 80fps
<5> thats a fairly good card
<5> I run a 9550 on this box
<5> gave my 9259 to my son cuz his nvidia card would lock up or the games just said no when he tried to play them
<5> uh 9259
<5> hmmm]
<5> 9250
<5> there
<0> ok
<0> anyone know where i can get a rpm for linuxdcpp
<0> is there a way to MIX firefox's sounds with rest of the system
<0> there is no alsa-oss or aoss in FC5
<7> siimo, oss is emulated via alsa
<0> yeah well sounds in firefox wont play when other music is playing
<0> e,g, flash plugin
<7> i think that is flash being lame
<7> i mix sounds all over the place
<0> daMentor: yeah me too but flash needs alsa-oss
<5> hmmm I have three sound cards here
<5> I use different ones for different things
<7> so this goes along with the current bug that flashplayer 7 looked for fonts in a static location
<7> complain to macromedia for making a lousy linux version
<0> daMaestro: its not a bug its been like this for a long time
<5> yeah that will do a lot of good
<0> threy just havnt implemented alsa yet
<7> imo.. that is a bug
<0> so all other distros use 'aoss firefox'
<0> except fedora doesnt package aoss
<7> maybe it is a statement we need to stop putting up with people dragging their feet.. and get onboard with new features and advancment..


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