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<0> lol
<1> unless i run into a ton of money, then i might buy a quad core kentsfield
<2> XulChris: hehe, my next may be the conroe
<2> XulChris: If I take the job I am going to go in for an offer for on Thursday I will be able to afford pretty much whatever I want computer wise.
<3> I haven't upgraded in 4 years
<1> Edgan: cool
<4> Well... my new computer is a 450something mhz proc!
<4> Ha!
<1> Edgan: did redhat hire you?
<5> but what I lack in MHz I make up for in architectures. Sun Ultra 5, Mac-mini, 3.6 GHz laptop, PIII 700 MHz laptop, and a 3.2 GHz desktop
<2> XulChris: I already speed too much, and the job will likely pay twice as much.
<2> XulChris: No, local oil/property management company wants to hire me.
<1> Edgan: i think youre the smartest one on this channel, so i have no doubt you'll get the job
<6> the Ultra 5 is a dog
<3> Edgan: What city do you live in?
<6> the Mac mini is slow



<2> Ingvae: Reno, NV
<5> leave my Ultra 5 alone :-P
<6> and the intel thing is fast if you run linux on it
<1> Edgan: wtf reno?
<6> Its funny at work, we have all these blades etc and they spec them with stuff all ram
<5> Mini is good enough with a GB of RAM and a 5400 or 7200 rpm drive
<1> Edgan: are you in reno now?
<6> they just buy the name and don't have a clue about what they're doding
<2> XulChris: Oh, they have already said they want me, just have to go in for the offer meeting to work out the details. I am still not sure I want it though. One of the main reasons they want to hire me is to deal with their SCO Unix machine used for some accounting stuff. I also have two other job prospects that pay more in California. One is at the done the phone interview and need to do the in person interview, and the other I am waiting for them to get back
<2> to me for any form of interview.
<2> XulChris: I have been for almost the last 4 years.
<1> Edgan: why didnt you tell me?
<0> i work with what i got
<0> and what i can afford with being 15 and all
<1> Edgan: surely you have noticed my hostmask?
<2> XulChris: Guess it never came up. Why, you in Reno or the general area?
<5> phantomike: nothing wrong with that :)
<1> Edgan: i used to be, i have a condo up in lake tahoe now
<2> XulChris: ah, probably way it says pacbell and not nvbell
<2> XulChris: I make trips up that way every so often
<5> my laptop was the last computer I will be buying for a LONG time... my next laptop will probably be a 10GHz+....
<4> phantomike, Uhh...
<1> Edgan: cool let me know next time youre coming up, we can go eat some tacos at T's
<5> i became officially poor when I gave up the bucks and joined the Marine Corps
<7> hehe quick re-join for me
<0> hlieberman: whats up?
<7> i just noticed my windows shares stop working while enforcing selinux. helps? :)
<4> phantomike, I'm 15... I currently have, the fedora laptop I'm typing on, the server next to my foot, the crap gentoo box on my right, and the cluster in the basement. Tip: Use OpenMOSIX to join crap computers together. Companies give away old computers, or throw them out.
<4> phantomike, For example, I've gotten three from one company, who were upgrading their management's stuff.
<2> hlieberman: you make your own programs to use OpenMOSIX?
<1> Edgan: you know anyone in reno looking for a linux programmer?
<4> Edgan, Anything that runs on a 2.4.* kernel will run on OpenMosix.
<2> hlieberman: I had a friend with like 20 computers. They were from x86 to sgis to ppc to sparc. He got tired of the monster power bill and started getting rid of them.
<2> hlieberman: natively across the machines without any work?
<8> hlieberman, 2.6.x works too
<4> Edgan, Natively across the machines, as long as they share kernel # (and arch is easier)
<4> che, I didn't think openMosix had made their 2.6.x kernel yet.
<8> hlieberman, i have even seen packages around.
<8> hlieberman, ;)
<2> hlieberman: Ah, ah, I thought you had to write custom aps for openmosix
<4> Edgan, Nope. Paralell computing. It's a beautiful thing....
<2> hlieberman: hehe, of course people are going more the other way with Xen
<4> Edgan, Well, you can do openmosix+Xen.
<8> hlieberman, http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/ if you scroll a bit down theres stuff to try ;)
<4> Edgan, So, lots of machines tied together, with lots of virtual machines.
<4> che, Still all in alpha.
<4> Anyway, I've got to hit the hay.
<4> G'night all.
<8> hlieberman, kernel is beta
<4> che, userspace is alpha
<2> XulChris: no, I am not on the programmer side of things. I am more of a sysadmin.
<9> The automigration isn't functional yet.
<5> openmosix offloads a process to another computer; it doesnt parallelise programs... explains why they don't have to be written to get benefit
<9> Right.
<5> so basically you have to run at least two programs to get a benefit
<9> No, OpenMosix is a process scheduling clustering sytem, for load balancing.
<2> xaoslaad: ah, and Xen is at least working on migration
<9> You don't have to run anything to get a benefit.
<5> regardless you can read exactly what they say at http://howto.x-tend.be/openMosixWiki/index.php/FAQ
<9> If the system's ntpd took up 70% CPU, all other small processes would get migrated.
<5> yes



<5> i understand that
<9> Ntpd doesn't do that however, so any application you run would of course be the culprit for migration.
<5> but running one program that program is not going to parralelise and run on 10 different processors like a program written specifically to run on a cluster might
<9> And this is a surprise to you?
<5> no
<2> If it was going to divide a process it would need to be able to auto-vectorize if I understand correctly
<9> It is written right there in the documents you pointed me to, that it doesn't.
<5> ya, no kidding, and the question was wouldn't a program need to be rewritten to take advantage of openmosix, and the answer was NO, and so I went reading to see why, and this is why, and I shared with the person who had the question
<5> yeesh
<5> it does not surprise me, it explains it to me
<2> XulChris: What speed do you have from SBC up there?
<9> xaoslaad, I think you are thinking of Maui and MPICH type stuff.
<1> Edgan: i get like 1.5-1.7Mb down and i forget my upspeed i think its like 30Kb or somthing
<2> XulChris: you mean 1.5mbit/256kbit?
<1> ya maybe
<0> gah i really need an upgrade
<0> im slower then hell
<2> phantomike: where do you live?
<0> Galveston, TX
<2> phantomike: you should be able to get good speeds
<0> yea i know its just the plan my dad signed up for
<2> phantomike: who is the cable company?
<0> Time Warner
<10> I believe I am having a problem with a kernel module mismatch if someone has the patience could you help me?
<9> brick-, state the problem first, expect help later.
<9> That was a message from your good friend Sitting Bull.
<11> any out there ?
<2> intrpngn: yes
<11> fc4 with -2.6.11-1 kernel.. anyone have experience with configuring pppd for vpn to microsoft server
<11> understand that the 2.6.15 kernel has it built in.. is that the recommended approach.
<2> intrpngn: never tried that, but fc4 is up to 2.6.15-1.1833
<11> would yum update the kernel
<2> intrpngn: yes
<0> i new there was a downside to getting yellow tinted gl***es, take them off and its significantly brighter
<11> k will give it a go.. any gotchas that i should be aware of prior to starting... just got done rebuilding this thing would hate to trash it.
<2> intrpngn: should go well
<11> k
<11> will let you know ;-)
<10> I apparently am having problems with the ivtv driver, but I need to know how to get more info to find out what is wrong. I see ivtv stuff in ps -A and I have a /dev/video0 device however cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg gives a 0 sized file and loading anything that uses the ivtv driver fails. Reading through the lists apparently this could happen through a driver module mismatch but I am unclear as to what that means
<3> intrpngn: Keep in mind you can always boot older kernels
<2> brick-: what is the goal, mythtv, freevo?
<10> mythtv
<2> brick-: fc4?
<10> yes
<2> brick-: what version of ivtv?
<10> I have tried to compile the ivtv driver, and loaded it from atrpms.net through yum
<10> let me check
<2> brick-: using atrpms is asking for trouble. I have seem someone else's rpms of mythtv for fc4
<2> brick-: I am uinsg ivtv 0.4.3 right now with my PVR150s
<10> version 0.4.3
<10> I have a pvr 150 as well
<2> haha
<2> brick-: let me see what options I have left in /etc/modprobe.conf
<10> I Tried to compile it but that didnt work either, but I not confident I did it correctly
<10> cant type either
<2> brick-: I have it compiled in rpm form
<10> http://pastebin.ca/45302
<2> brick-: doesn't look like I need any special options with my pvr150s these days with 0.4.3
<2> brick-: you might add alias char-major-81-0 ivtv
<10> yea I set up myth once a while back and had to put all the other stuff in modprobe but from what I have read it just causes problems now
<2> brick-: I would say get mythtv setup and debug through it.
<2> brick-: I have tried things like xawtv, but they don't work with pvr150s, in my experience.
<10> well the error myth gives is here http://pastebin.ca/45303
<10> I only have on capture card to make things more clear
<10> and yes I know I should be running myth as root ;)
<10> shouldnt
<12> hey all
<2> brick-: hmm, it says no such device. does lsmod show ivtv is loaded?
<12> for some reason, my ddclient, the prgram that updates dyndns.org with my IP address says that it cannot access the dyndns server
<5> shouldn't run a lot of things as root
<10> I see it listed here is the output http://pastebin.ca/45304
<2> brick-: then there is the question of what dmesg says, and if you have the firmware files in the right place
<12> i get this error in /var/log/message: Mar 12 00:23:27 Server ddclient[10962]: WARNING: cannot connect to checkip.dynd ns.org:80 socket: IO::Socket::INET: Bad hostname 'checkip.dyndns.org'
<12> any ideas?


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