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<0> sil3nt|warri0r: good, did a three-hour walk with a friend this afternoon
<1> Hi. Does anyone know of a solution to get fonts looking better (i.e. more Windows-like) in FC4? I've downloaded the MSTTCorefonts, tweaked all the Smoothing and hinting settings, and fonts still look bad.
<2> Hello
<3> SAF-TE ?
<4> Bad? fonts are antialiased and good looking in Fedora, they aren't in windows.
<3> anyone ?
<1> Fonts are indeed antialiased in Windows with Cleartype. I use LCDs, and I have a Mac and Windows install, and I know how fonts should look. They do not look well in FC4.
<1> The font spacings are not equal... some letters run into each other, some do not, spacing is funny, they get mildly blurry, etc.
<5> Snader_LB: good :), walk for ur life ;-)
<0> sil3nt|warri0r: what time is it at your place now?
<6> hello! I am trying to make nfs work, but when i connect to the server i get this error: "mount yadda,yadda failed, reason given by server: permission denied" Do you know what i may have missed?
<7> CodyDH: your font settings at the moment? typeface, size, rendering options, etc.
<2> How do I remove Java from my system? I mean all JRE, JDK etc. I have installed Java selecting an option 'Java' at the installation time, and after I installed java following the instructions from fedorafaq.org. Now I want to remove it all. I'm have tried removing Java from gnome "Package Managemente" but is says that some packages were not found ( but they are checkec ). Could someone help-me? I'm new with linux administration, so I'
<2> m a lot lost. Thank you!
<1> fedorared: I have tried a bunch, but so far the most usable is: Sans, 10, Subpixel Smoothing, Medium Hinting, VRGB Subpixel Order
<1> fedorared: The LCD is a 15" 1920x1200 Dell Laptop display.
<1> fedorared: I've also recompiled the Freetype RPM with the Bytecode Interpreter enabled.
<7> fromvega: yum groupremove "Java Development"
<2> fedorared: I'll try thanks
<7> fromvega: if that doesn't do it "yum remove libgcj"
<8> mabe the resolution in x doesn't match LCD max resolution?
<7> fromvega: you have any Sun JRE installed?
<2> fedorared: I have installed one following the instructions from fedorafaq.org (I suppose it was a JRE)
<2> fedorared: "Warning: Group Java Debelopment does not exist." I'll try libgcj now
<2> ops
<2> uuhahua
<2> Dev not Deb :S
<7> fromvega: also, "yum remove java-1.5.0-sun*" for any Sun java stuff. This is why the FAQ has you make rpms.
<9> Anyone using Wine on FC4? Looking for some advice on how to properly deal with Prelinking. I've tried undo-ing Prelinking following any documented steps I can find, I'm doing a fresh install currently and am trying to get World of Warcraft working.
<1> fedorared: any ideas?
<9> You have to compile wine with 2 patches, which goes okay, but when I try to run any binary install via Wine it gives me the dreaded prelinking error.
<7> CodyDH: no. Gnome desktop with Sans and any of the rendering options works OK for me.
<2> fedorared: thanks... I'll try that
<7> CodyDH: 1024x768 LCD.
<7> inf3rno: prelink is a daily cron job.
<10> anyone know how to get a USB drive to automatically mount?
<7> Jahboy: plug in. hope it works. :/
<10> it used to... and now I have to manually mount it
<7> inf3rno: edit /etc/sysconfig/prelink to switch it on and off.
<10> I'm not sure when it quit doing it automatically
<9> fedorared: indeed. i've gone through on a fresh install and the install programs work fine for awhile, then prelinking apparently runs or something and then i get the error. -- i've also tried disabling and undoing prelinking with the prelink undo command to no avail.
<10> ok
<9> fedorared: did so, but i continue to get the error, even after manually doing prelink -ua
<1> fedorared: OK. Mine don't seem that great on my PC with a 1024x768LCD either, but they are more exemplified on here.
<9> fedorared: sometimes, on a fresh install, it gives me the error right off the bat. have formatted a few times in trying to get this to work.
<8> CodyDH, please try to set resolution in X the same as your LCD max resolution, i think you get some kind of "hardware aliasing", when resolution is lower than LCD matrix capability. All the is looking bad in that case.
<7> inf3rno: asked #winehq yet?
<1> walkie: My LCD is setup for 1920x1200.
<9> yeah, have been told to disable prelinking which hasn't worked, on top of that they recommended monitoring the proc logs for memory allocations or something to that effect. trying to research that currently.
<8> fedorared, try to set exactly the same resolution in X
<10> I can mount manually form /dev/sda1
<10> *from
<9> Jahboy: booting off the usb drive?
<10> could there be a problem with hotplug?
<10> no
<10> just wanting to use it for storage
<10> not an actual hardrive
<10> flash drive
<10> I used to use it between my linux machine and Windows machine
<1> walkie: And I know it's sort-of a Fedora problem as SuSE looks great.
<9> fedorared: see above^, didn't tag it with yer name. ;)
<2> fedorared: "Metadata file does not match checksum" I'm receiving this message from every mirror yum tries
<7> inf3rno: eh. Not much help, I only run basic old and uncomplicated apps with wine.
<7> fromvega: "yum clean metadata"
<11> CodyDH: So copy the xorg.conf from SUSE
<7> fromvega: or perhaps the mirror servers are out of sync.
<1> TimU, I believe xorg.conf would only really effect resolution, which is setup correctly.
<7> Not sure of their current status, I just use my local mirror. :)
<11> CodyDH: Oh, sorry, I didn't scroll up.
<1> Question... is it normal that, when you turn off smoothing and hinting, that the fonts look downright terrible (very pixel-y and lumpy)?
<11> CodyDH: Yes.
<1> Why is that?
<12> Has anyone here gotten the new (free as in beer) VMware Server to run on FC4 on an Athlon x64 dualcore system?
<11> CodyDH: Cause you turned off smoothing and hinting.
<1> Right, but a font SHOULDN'T be lumpy.
<1> Hinting and Smoothing should refine a font, not make it bearable.
<13> What about Lumpy font?
<11> CodyDH: Take a screenshot
<13> It is supposed to be lumpy.
<1> TimU: of what, the lumpy fonts without hinting/smoothing?
<13> Yeah.
<5> Snader_LB: sorry for the long delay, its 12:29 am now
<14> it depends on the font. some fonts just lack the hints to make it render decently without help.
<8> CodyDH, really I don't know. I just saw many awful looking screens evben in windows, when screen resolution was lower than LCD matrix, there was several vertical smooth stripes with several "blured" stipes.
<0> sil3nt|warri0r: 12:29? or 12.49?
<1> walkie: The LCD resolution is correct.
<14> and by default, in FC4, CodyDH, freetype just ignores the hints in truetype fonts.
<1> That's not the issue here.
<14> it uses an "autohinter" algorithm. where it basically guesses.
<1> Images look amazing on my screen
<6> hello
<1> Em: how would that be enabled? Through recompiling the Freetype RPM with bytecode interpreter enabled?
<5> Snader_LB: 12:30, why ??
<14> just so.
<14> then you'd pick fonts that have good hints.
<14> the core web fonts from Microsoft are masterpieces in that respect.
<11> CodyDH: do a diff of the outputs of xdpyinfo on Fedora and SUSE
<0> sil3nt|warri0r: because it's 19.50 (7.50 pm) here now. i knew hours differ, but minutes?
<6> Is there something to think about when installing mplayer with yum? I want all the "usual" codes. Note that i want to install mplayer and not gmplayer...
<1> TimU: DCC
<7> mm2000_laptop: rpm.livna.org is what to think.
<5> +5.5 from UST here
<11> CodyDH: I got your local IP
<1> OK.
<1> One moment.
<14> CodyDH, if you're interested, i already have such RPM's built with freetype 2.1.10, just lemme know if you want.
<1> TimU: MSG OK?
<1> Em: Sure, send me them.
<11> I'd rather not
<1> Em: can't hurt to try.
<11> I may wander off at any moment
<14> CodyDH, want i should send you the SRPM and you do the rest ?
<1> TimU: http://yfug.yumaed.org/~cody/Screenshot.png
<1> Em: That works.
<14> cool.
<6> fedorared: how about the command to install it? is it just "yum install mplayer", or should i install the codecs too?
<7> mm2000_laptop: once you've setup fedorafaq.org yum repositories.
<14> CodyDH, if you install that, you'll have the option of using the autohinter, or not (not being the default)
<7> mm2000_laptop: then give it a go and see if it plays what you have.
<1> Em: OK. Do I just rpm -ivh this file, then go to the spec file and rpmbuild -bb file?
<14> actually, CodyDH, it's easier than that
<7> CodyDH: rpmbuild --rebuild on the srpm is useful.
<14> just rpmbuild --rebuild <SRPM>
<0> sil3nt|warri0r: hm, i was curious what time differing it was, but little more complicated than i thought. anyway, i'll bbl, probably
<14> that'll spit out all the requisite RPM's. install those, and after that point any newly opened program will use the BCI.
<1> Em: ok, thanks... just give me a minute here to compile, etc.
<14> have fun.
<14> if you decide you don't like it, i'll tell you how to simply tell your computer to use the autohinter.
<1> OK.
<1> It's still building
<14> yeah, give it a bit.
<1> I don't need to worry about removing the old ones, correct? It will update cleanly?
<14> yes.
<1> Ok... erm, where did you say the files would go with that command?
<15> how do I add a reboot button to the gnome menu options?
<14> it's just an upgrade for your already extant freetype, only with a small patch to change a build option.
<14> are you asking where the RPM's would be placed ? it should print that info out near the end.
<7> reflous: Desktop > Logout, Reboot.
<1> Ah, duh :)
<15> fedorared: my logout just logs me out, there is no reboot option
<11> CodyDH: I get similar results here on Ubuntu (freetype 2.1.7)
<15> fedorared: just queries me: Are you sure youw ant to log out?
<1> TimU: Ok...
<1> I'll BRB, going to restart.
<11> CodyDH: Note quite as "lumpy" as yours, but close
<7> reflous: "Restart the computer" radio button?
<15> fedorared: don't have one
<9> on a fresh install of fedora it doesn't show a reboot button in KDE, but when you update the kernel it shows fine. FYI.
<15> inf3rno: I'm running gnome though, it isn't a fresh install either :(
<15> fedorared: is there a package that gives you the reboot option ?
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