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<0> andrewh224 FC5 has firefox 1.5
<1> im in fc4
<1> sry
<0> andrewh224 dl it, untar it and run firefox. Simple!
<2> ls -l
<1> o yea
<0> that I did in SUSE and it worked.
<1> does anyone know of any handwriting recognition apps
<3> andrewh224: http://www.nrpms.net/Packages/fedora-4-i386/production/firefox.html
<0> andrewh224 rpm -Uvh http://..... ?
<1> what time is it
<4> andrewh224, no I don't sorry
<1> you dont what
<3> jimakos: nah, there should be a link to the rpm there (probably best to pull it off a mirror imo); you can use rpm or yum once downloaded
<0> anybody knows about changing keyboard layout in FC5/KDE?
<1> yea its taking forever
<1> what time is it
<3> jimakos: does 'system->preferences->keyboard' not do anything?
<0> nyq This is for KDE or Gnome?
<0> I dont have any system > preferences > Keyboard on KDE.
<3> jimakos: gnome. i've no idea about kde, soz
<0> Oh boy, I dont understand it.
<5> hi
<0> Why things working good have to change?
<6> here's a strange one: After upgrading to FC5 from FC4, when I plug in my iAudio X5 (ipod like device) through the USB connection, it does not automount. However, my Lexar USB jump drive automounts.
<0> We used to used Shift+Alt in all distros to write greek and vice versa.
<5> how i install java?
<0> Ppl here have it as an axiom: "Why that simple thing doesnot work in Linux?"
<7> jimakos: the simple things work well in Linux, those that are development oriented... That is, the things taken from UNIX
<0> Blis*** Isn't that (grp:alt_shift) a simple thing?
<0> Blis*** And why someone not saying, "hey it will not work anymore, use that instead...". I dont know.
<7> jimakos: well, there are two sides to that... 'grp:alt_shift' is actually a very complex thing, but XKB is way more complex than it should be.
<0> Blis*** What do you mean, from the programming aspect?
<0> Blis*** But it did work on FC4,3, SUSE, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Debian, Slackware, etc. What happened? Is it an X.org 7 fault/bug/newthing of somekind?
<7> jimakos: there are a few GNU/Linux subsystems that are unnecessarily complex, the most obvious one is fonts...
<7> jimakos: my experience of Xorg 7 is that it has more bugs than Xorg 6.8
<3> Blis***: +1
<7> jimakos: now when something is complex, well, bugs happen more easily.
<0> Blis***, ok so do I submit a bug on Xorg?
<7> jimakos: probably yes...
<7> jimakos: BTW, what are you trying to achieve? There may be workarounds...
<0> Blis***, it is simple I just want to change from english to greek.
<7> jimakos: ahhhh, but thats a completely different thing from group switching. At least potentially.
<0> When you had grp:alt_shift in xorg.conf you could do that just by hitting Alt+Shift.
<0> Blis***, do u know a workaround?
<3> Blis***: with regards to fonts. I take it you haven't been around for too long. You should've seen the state of things 5 years ago ;)
<7> jimakos: not quite... keyboard layout and group switching are really different things.
<7> nyq: things now are _much_ worse for fonts than 5 years ago....
<7> jimakos: what kind of desktop environment are you using? Most have a little clickable button to switch keyboard layout.
<8> ok.. heres what I want to do.. I should be able to start the FC5 install cd up from Grub command line and specify a different kernel
<0> As far as Greeks concerned I can tell you that now is better.
<0> KDE
<7> jimakos: ah with KDE it is dead easy. You can run 'kxkb' and you get the little flag in the panel. You can even bind any key sequences to the various layouts.
<9> I'm trying to set up mediawiki on FC5 and when I go to localhost/mediawiki/config I get a 403 forbidden error. I can go to localhost or localhost/mediawiki and see the pages just fine.
<0> Yes of course there is that "clickable button". But you see, I am trying to persuade window users to migrate to Linux.
<0> That people are used to "Alt+Shift" concepts, u know.
<10> are .a files development files like .h and .c ?
<0> Not clickable icons. (I do use the icon, too, I dont care).
<11> dubkat: no
<3> Ditiris: have you taken a look in your '/var/log/httpd/error_log' ?
<9> nyq: Nope, I'm a noob, I'll give that a try
<10> streeter: thanks
<3> Ditiris: it's ok. you'll need to open a terminal and 'su -' up to root (administrator)
<9> client denied by server configuration: /var/www/mediawiki/config
<3> Ditiris: lemme know when i'm going too fast :)
<3> Ditiris: ah
<3> Ditiris: you may need to edit your webservers' configuration
<7> jimakos: but you can bind 'kxkb' actions to more or less arbitrary keys in KDE...
<12> fellaz
<12> does xinetd exist only on fedora and red hat?
<13> ...
<0> Blis***, I dont know I feel like stupid with that program. Config'd it to Shift+Alt a while ago but it doesnot work. :-)
<14> anyone got XGL running on fedora 5?
<7> jimakos: look at 'Keyboard shortcuts' and 'Input actions' in 'Regional & accessibility' and use 'kdcop' to look at 'kxkb's actions.
<14> i tried aiglx from the bling repo but it was very slow
<0> Blis*** thanks I ' ll give it a try.
<8> anyone know how grub refers to the cd drives ?
<8> same as (hd0,0) ?
<7> jimakos: for example one action you can _script_ is: dcop kxkb kxkb setLayout gr
<8> ie.. hda = hd0, hdb = hd1, hdc = hd2, hdd = hd3
<7> CyberMac: GRUB supports only BIOS supported drives...
<7> CyberMac: and it names disks according to the BIOS DOS drive number convention.
<0> Blis***, see this I used "Regional & acces.." and I set it correctly to Alt+Space. It works nicely. But Alt+Shift does not!
<8> hm.. wait.. I guess I want to keep root as hd1,0 because the linux kernel I want to use is on that drive
<7> jimakos: probably because in your current layout Alt and Shift are both modifiers...
<8> so.. in the kernel line i should use root=/dev/blah
<0> Anyway, Blis***, in Greek, thanks = "".
<0> :)
<12> is xinit.d a red hat thing?
<12> or a linux thing.
<8> i'm trying to modify the kernel line of a grub entry to boot the FC5 install cd up using a kernel off of the hard drive
<2> Does anyone know how I can make a script to enable the sound on ET and then run it
<2> and use it with a desktop icon
<7> jerware: it is a general replacement for 'inetd', and several other distros use 'xinetd' too.
<12> oh ok
<0> bye people and thanks.
<15> hey people
<3> jerware: xinetd is more of a common unix thing rather than specifically linux/fc/rh
<15> anyone knows if the cable UTP Cat6 (yes category 6) has a length limit? I've tried to connect my desktop to my new LAN (cat6 cables of 50 meters length) and the ethernet doesn't work at all if its set to 100Mbit, instead if i force it to 10Mbit then it works fine. Any suggestions please?
<16> sehh: 100m
<3> sehh: copper cable, whether cat 5 or 6 is still limited to 100M
<15> hmm
<15> mine are 50 meter cables
<16> less if the cable is crappy or if you're going through a hostile area
<3> sehh: you just lose so much in resistance over that distance
<15> so why can't i use 100mbit?.... weird
<15> is there another reason why it works at 10mbit and not 100mbit?
<16> sehh: is it run near flourescent lights or high voltage equipment?
<3> sehh: what data loss are you 'packing'? you could have a short cable with a lot of interference. you're not running it past any big microwaves, no?
<17> sehh, 100mbit only 25metrs
<17> max
<15> none that i know of... there are a bunch of power cables running to the desktop etc
<3> sehh: yeh, you're network card's are switching correctly
<15> Mola: ONLY 25???? then i'm dead...
<3> sehh: s/are/aren't/
<16> sehh: get a good cable tester
<15> when i set the card at 100mbit, then i get absolutely no connection
<3> Mola: where did you get that figure from?
<15> only the leds get lit... but thats about it..
<17> in fedora core 3 book :)
<18> Mola, Where did you get that from ??
<15> when i force the card at 10mbit, it works fine.
<18> Mola, It is complete rubbish.
<2> how do i install new icon themes
<15> hmm i'll google around for the limits, just in case
<19> Rubbish boy!
<3> sehh: that mean's it's got a link (can 'seek' to both ends of the cable)
<19> Rubbish!
<17> tanks AutOPSY
<3> Mola: you should'nt believe everything you read. i'm afraid you've been 'had'. that's not correct
<15> nyq: i know that there is link, but at 100mbit nothing is trasmited (pings don't work, etc) its as if the cable isn't connected
<17> i read it in fedora core 3 unleashed , Sams for cat 6
<17> not for cat 5
<3> sehh: have a cable tester?
<19> I was told in CIS130 CAT5 lengths are good up to about 4000ft.
<3> Mola: it's a bunch of lies ;)
<15> nyq, unfortunately i dont
<16> there would be very few 100 megabit networks if the length of a run were limited to 25 meters
<18> Mola, Hrmm.. I do know that Cat6 running at Giga speeds, definately has a shorter run length.
<3> sehh: hmm. how long's the cable?
<18> Mola, Shorter than at 10Mb/s speeds that is.
<18> Mola, And shorter than at 100Mb/s speeds too
<15> nyq: 50 meters Cat6 cable, one end is connected to a Gigabit Ethernet Switch (Netgear) and the other is in my desktop (Intel Pro/100 Server ethernet PCI), i also have an IBM ThinkPad here that i'm about to try
<3> i'd put money down that you're all reaching the physical limit of your network card as opposed to the limit of the cable
<16> sehh: try your laptop at the other end of that cable, and then go walk your laptop to the switch and try with a short cable
<15> zaf: could this problem be related to the way i made the RJ45 plugs?
<3> sehh: that's awfully short. 100M is the strictest limit. It's more probably a network card/driver bug
<16> sehh: could be if they're not crimped nice and tight
<15> hmm
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