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<0> fedorared: nah, keep devel on the disc, cause what if they need to compile a kernel module for their network card?
<1> Then: Fedora Ultimate, or maybe Fedora Professional? - 2-5 discs, exactly what we have right now, Fedora Desktop and Fedora Base installations would also be doable from the Fedora Pro discs
<2> I meant the .rpm , kthx :)
<3> AntonTakk, overall ... a pretty easy, but time consuming, process.
<0> CrippsFX: indeed
<3> :)
<2> oh but "yum remove xxx" does delete the .rpm ?
<4> Fedora Ultra Super l33t Ninja Powers.
<3> alright ... it's time for me to go out and finish that cigarette that I started earlier .....
<3> brb
<0> CrippsFX: also got all the parts for my 33 MHz sparcie scrounged togather, and it still boots :)
<3> AntonTakk, sweet ... I'll catch up with ya on that after I get my smoke.
<1> Fedora Max would sound even better!
<5> Southern_Gentlem ....?
<4> If Core went to one CD would kind of eliminate the use of the DVD.
<6> _stever, you are right my system doesnt have that rpm either
<4> But getting Extras to people without broadband remains a problem.
<6> _stever, dont worry about it and do the livna install
<5> Southern_Gentlem ok
<7> anyone know where gnome-settings-daemon has gone to in FC5?
<1> NO! Fedora Ultimate, (or whatever it would be called) would be what we have now; 5 discs or a DVD
<7> I used to have it run when starting WindowMaker so al my gnome theme settings are automatically used...
<7> atm I gotta keep running the gnome theme manager to get them started each time :/
<5> Southern_Gentlem got a reply with nothing to do
<6> _stever, remove them and reinstall them
<5> Southern_Gentlem remove what?
<1> and p.s.; Ubuntu like has 4 variations!
<8> luovik, nowhere
<4> viper550: Core = one CD, Ultimate = Core + Extras (hopefully also on CD, someday)
<4> The "Ubuntu does it" argument is not sufficient by itself.
<4> At least not to me :)
<1> Ubuntu, Ubuntu Server (core system, text mode, server stuff), Kubuntu (uses KDE by default), Edubuntu (educational tools), and they even are planning a Xubuntu (XFCE)
<6> viper550, if we cared about a foriegn distro we would be running it
<6> viper550, if you want to run ubunto then run it, stop with the propganda
<1> better idea: Fedora Core Desktop would be the base version and would only use 1 disc. Fedora Core Max would be like what we have now
<1> And also, I switched from Ubuntu, y'know
<3> AntonTakk, I be back
<1> And it's done things amazing that Ubuntu couldn't do out of the box!
<6> viper550, but we are not the ones you need to talk to
<4> One disc already exists: the DVD! :)
<1> Not everyone has DVD burners you know
<9> yes they do
<8> luovik, it's not in path, /usr/libexec, but that's nothing new either, been there since fc2 at least
<9> espcially in third world countries
<6> fedorared, i agree with him we need a one disc install, alot of people have said that since fc3
<4> I do, just no media. :/
<1> And that's what I suggested
<3> rjune, lol. I just got mine in feb.
<1> (but also, these varients would have slightly different artwork)
<6> viper550, and i said i agreed with you 30 minutes ago
<9> CrippsFX: I'm in a fourth world country apparently
<3> fourth world?
<6> viper550, tell the develepers not us
<1> So to review: Fedora Core=Base 1CD GUI install, perfect for
<7> Juhaz: ah, muchas gracias. Looong time since I used Linux so thats news to me :p
<1> where are the developers?
<6> not in here
<1> which channel? fedora-dev?
<6> post it to bugzilla etc
<10> 1 disc install - with no stuff on it
<10> pointless
<10> half the world wants features
<10> half wants small install
<3> net-install - with EVERYTHING on it.
<10> both cannot combine
<9> and the other half wants to know what it's like to have ***
<10> not everyone has fast interenet
<3> rjune, that's me.
<2> the third half of the world wants a debian style netinstall
<9> LinuxHelp: have that. it's what I use
<1> My half doesn't have broadband (but I do)
<3> I must admit, I did like the debian net-install ... it was wikid fast.
<9> download 6M, then grab only what you need
<3> mmm ... 1.7 gigs ... 5 gigs to go ....
<11> So I've been trying to get this suspend hibernate thing working on my laptop (hp zd7000). If I do an echo 3 > /sys/power/state (as root) I can an error message about Cl*** driver suspend failed for cpu0. Can anyone help with this?
<11> Is there a config file I can look at.
<11> This is an upgrade to fc5 from fc4, fc3, fc2, ... you get the idea
<6> gcr_home, so who knows what didnt upgraded properly
<11> exactly...
<6> so clean install
<11> and when did it break ...
<3> I haven't had the motivation to get suspend working on any of my laptops yet ....
<12> worked out of the box fo rme
<6> hibernate works on this one
<11> No way, I've got too much time into this laptop to start from scratch
<11> the zd7000? Cool
<11> Could it be a config file?
<13> Is it possible to do an install with just the first CD?
<6> gcr_home, you have so much invested but you dont have backups
<4> SuperLag: yes. "linux askmethod"
<14> why the following...
<11> Oh its all backed up
<6> gcr_home, the whats the problem
<14> yum remove nautilus-cd-burner --- Ahhh.. no you don't ... I will now suggest you uninstall the statistical analysis software that you use daily... HAHHAHAHAH RH / FC is laughing at you AHHHAHAHAH
<11> Every thing is working fine, except the one thing that has never worked. So I'm trying to learn about my fc5 support for acpi
<14> nautilus-cd-burner, I mean I ask you!
<14> who wants that piece of twaddle!
<6> i do
<15> me
<6> lots of people like to drag and drop to the cd
<14> brad[], what is wrong with mkisofs?
<11> I've been studying all day about the acpi support ... but I can't find any reference to these errors
<15> handy for burning quicky driver discs for windows machines
<15> facefaceface: I can click click click in a hurry with nautilus
<15> Which I appreciate in a high-stress environment
<6> facefaceface, why make isos for just temporay files
<14> Southern_Gentlem, OK, fair enough, I don't mind the idea. But it's not for me. I'd like to remove it
<11> after the cpu0 error it says: Could not power down device <NULL>: error -22. Does this help? I'm using 2.6.16-2080 stock kernel.
<14> brad[], take a pill
<14> Why can't I just remove this? oh, because its deeply embedded - Yay!
<16> Does anyone know why my auto login isn't working for FC5
<14> removeing it removes half teh softwer on me box
<15> facefaceface: :P
<11> Southern_Gentlem: I believe I should be able to fix without a fresh install don't you?
<14> anyway, rant over
<15> facefaceface: rpm -e it
<14> brad[], ;)
<15> facefaceface: rpm --nodeps -e
<15> I'm sure yum will try to put it back later though
<14> --nodeps eh?
<15> yeah
<14> ah ...
<14> yum will, you are right
<4> Don't use --nodeps
<6> gcr_home, at this point with yours upgraded from this that and another i think a fresh install is your best option
<4> yum doesn't neither should you unless you really know what you're doing
<14> WTF though, I have the R stats analysis package, and nautilus-cd-burner wants to take it down with it
<15> facefaceface: Is it also trying to remove nautilus?
<14> Removing for dependencies:, R R-gnomeGUI control-center evince file-roller gnome-media gnome-session gnome-volume-manager nautilus ... and for my next trick...
<14> yeah, oh well
<4> s3cur17y: try running gdmsetup and checking there
<14> I am just a big baby
<15> lol..
<14> so long folks
<15> cheers
<14> you too man
<17> How do I enable early login in FC5?
<15> Foolish: autologin?
<16> it shows 'Enable Automatic Login' is check but everytime I type in my name it does not save it.
<16> oops
<16> sorry
<15> s3cur17y: I can't recall which tab it's under right now, but you have to set GDM to use /etc/p***wd for usernames
<3> I just had a bad thought .......
<13> fedorared: is there support for installing over wireless from the CD?
<17> brad[]: no, early login. As in starting gdm earlier in the boot process.
<3> I ran [root@localhost win_c]# tar -cjpf backup.windows.tar.bz2 * .... in the same directory that I'm writing the file to .... will it get into a loop where it'll try to backup the file it's writing?
<15> ah
<6> CrippsFX, yes
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