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<0> you've been warned. If you dont know what you're about to do i strongly suggest you just dont do it.
<1> i have no way to back things up. no samba to put them on my windows box, no cd burner etc..
<2> extra drive collecting dust
<0> JPC1976 : buy a burner. It's cheap.
<1> can i just mount a blank cd and copy the files to it and that would essentially burn...? or do i need some sort of program
<2> cdrecord cdrao
<0> JPC1976 : by definition, a blank cd is *blank*
<0> if it's blank there's no filesystem on it
<0> and if there's no filesystem, there's no chance you can mount it
<3> JPC1976: yes, there is supposedly some way you can do that. You may need to format it first. But I don't think it's well supported in Linux.
<3> better just to use mkisofs or one of the point-and-drool tools like k3b
<4> CR
<0> LF
<5> CRLF
<5> mac/*nix/win. yaaay.
<5> JPC1976, I mounted a CD once, but i couldn't get it off...
<1> lol
<1> all this crap started b/c of ndiswrapper
<1> b/c of wireless
<6> zcat: lol
<7> lol
<5> Sonar_Gal, not funny. once i doublechecked the size of the cd i wish i hadnt said anything
<6> zcat: your a sick puppy!!
<5> Sonar_Guy, better than being a my-****-dont-stink hypocrite. :)
<5> (wasn't implying anything)
<6> hehe, I know what you mean there!!
<6> I need an air freshener!! hehe
<7> hello honey
<8> hello
<9> hi Sonar_Gal...!
<9> hey, that was MY hello, JustKiddin
<9> get yer own!
<7> lol
<8> :(
<7> hello JustKiddin
<9> aw. hello JustKiddin
<9> there's two
<8> heh
<8> i have a question maybe someone here can help me out
<6> JustKiddin: shoot!!
<8> arite
<8> I installed FC4 to my USB HDD and i did all the custom initrd and got all of that to work, now my question is, if i update to FC5, will i have to make another initrd, or will it do that on its own
<3> JustKiddin: just install the rawhide mkinitrd package
<3> then it should be fine
<6> JustKiddin: yes
<3> if you're doing a network install, I think you can just put the rawhide mkinitrd package into an 'RHupdates' directory of the install tree
<10> Does anyone know of a gui to set up a wireless connection that needs wpa?
<3> ShastaMaroon: NetworkManager should handle that
<10> oh, cool
<8> what is rawhide mkinitrd package
<3> rawhide is the Fedora development tree, which will be FC6
<3> mkinitrd in rawhide has been fixed to work with USB hard drives
<3> if you install that package before upgrading to FC5 it should get it right
<8> oh, so how do i use that with the FC5 install
<3> by doing what I said.
<10> dwmw2_gone: ndiswrapper -l has a driver in it with the hardware present but I don't see anything in iwonfig or ifconfig that shows there's a hardware node for it...any idea how I would fix that?
<8> install it before, and then just do the normal install?
<3> either install it before upgrading to FC5, or do a network install and stick it in RHupdates
<3> ShastaMaroon: no idea about ndiswrapper. What chipset is the network card?
<8> would you say the easiest way is to install it before?
<3> yum --enablerepo=development update mkinitrd, perhaps
<10> dwmw2_gone: its a broadcom internal chipset.
<3> not sure if there are other dependencies which will get in the way of doing that on FC4 though
<3> maybe just download it and rpm -i --nodeps
<3> ShastaMaroon: do you have more than 1GiB of RAM?
<8> what exactly is a network install
<3> where you don't bother wasting blank DVD or CD media. You just install over the network
<8> how do you do that
<3> isn't it in the release notes?
<10> dwmw2_gone: I have 1GB
<8> er...
<8> yes?
<3> ShastaMaroon: I presume you mean 1GiB. In that case, the native bcm43xx driver ought to work. You shouldn't need ndiswrapper
<3> someone will presumably provide a suitable URL shortly....
<10> dwmw2_gone: I didn't know there was a native driver
<10> dwmw2_gone: do I just need to recompile the kernel then?
<3> http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/bcm43xx-yum-livna/
<3> no need to recompile the kernel
<3> or to use livna, despite the URL
<3> JustKiddin: just put the installer's kernel and initrd into your bootloader configuration, then boot them and point them at a mirror of FC5. It may go faster if you download FC5 first to a local machine on your network, then share it by NFS, FTP or HTTP
<3> another option would be just to do the install, then boot again to rescue mode and update mkinitrd and then install the current kernel too.
<8> ok, if i install those rawhide mkinitrd, and then just go through with a normal install, is should boot properly, or is there more to it than that
<3> SIGWENCH
<3> as long as the new mkinitrd is installed before the kernel it should be fine
<3> there's a new kernel in FC5-updates anyway
<8> what do you mean before the kernal
<11> hey guys I'm building a yum server for a datacenter... i just need stability.. is there anything unstable about fc5 still? any reason to go with 4?
<9> spaescowboy, you really want to put fedora in a datacenter?
<9> and upgrade it every 6-9 months...?
<9> i'd consider RHEL/CentOS if i were you
<11> i guess i could go with centos
<9> i would :)
<11> but we're not doing licensing
<9> with centos you'll get support for the same release for 5 years or so
<11> i mean, we dont want to deal with licenses rather
<9> right. centos then
<9> #rhel for general chat, #centos for specifics
<11> thanks, honey
<9> :)
<12> cannot use IPW2200BG WiFi , can some1 help ?
<13> not to sound like a sales guy or anything, but if you're running linux in a datacenter and you need stability, why not pay for the support contract?
<11> wwoods: because this is just a background task machine
<9> wwoods, depends what kind of a datacentre i guess. might just be a torrent server :)
<9> if it was a company i worked for, however, i'd demand they pay for a licence myself, yes
<12> Sonar_Gal: I've gone through this, the device is up, but cannot get an IP address ??
<6> kashajim: you using encryption?
<12> Sonar_Guy: no
<6> kashajim: ok, do iwlist scan and paste the output to pastebin.com
<8> k, im updating the mkinitrd as we speek
<8> ...theres a huge list of dependecies
<14> kashajim, useing network-manager??
<12> Sonar_Guy: http://pastebin.com/770574
<14> accck it works
<7> lol
<15> hello Sonar_Gal
<12> Southern_Gentlem: you mean device control ?
<7> hello okaratas
<14> kashajim, no i was talking about the network-manager service
<8> why were there so many dependecies just for mkinitrd?
<6> kashajim: what did you set the card up with Network Manager or system-config-network
<13> yeah, I mean RHEL4 ES (basic) is only $350/yr. Support and stability for 7 years for less than a buck a day seems reasonable to me.
<12> system-config-network
<12> infact I tried both
<6> Ok, did you see the AP with network manager?
<6> Also is dhcp enabled in the AP?
<10> dwmw2_gone: hardware seems to be working now. But the redhat network util doesn't let me specify the channel and security
<11> wwoods: but for a datacenter where everything is done on a cost basis.. i don't know, it seems like we might as well work with community-based software and support it ourselves
<12> Sonar_Guy: is there any network manager icon or point where I can run ? servcie is on
<8> dwmw2_gone: i told yum to update mkinitrd and it looks like its updating the entire system
<16> hello, sup guys.. trying to figure out an issue, if I use install-sendmail script I can recieve from mail box, but if I dont use it and use defaults, I can send out..
<6> kashajim: if it is on there should be a network icon in you taskbar if your using gnome.
<12> Sonar_Guy: I am using KDE right now
<13> spaescowboy: yeah, it's a calculated risk. If you've got plenty of skilled people who can support it already, that's awesome
<6> Not sure where it show up in kde.
<13> For some companies, it would cost them a lot more than a dollar's worth of time per day to support Fedora
<13> so buying a RHEL license makes a lot of sense for them.
<6> brb
<14> getting out my dell
<11> wwoods: i definitely agree... and we dont have everything on fedora, the important stuff is on bsd
<6> kashajim: does no kde have its own wireless network manager?
<6> s/no/not
<12> Sonar_Guy: cannot find any . I need switch to Gnome I guess
<14> hold on
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