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<0> not possible
<1> did u check the link?
<1> its saying i have to remove all that stuff just to get rid of evolution
<1> or am i a nub?
<0> i'm quite familiar with it
<0> it's been that way for a while
<1> eh guess it's staying..
<1> im being force-raped to keep it
<0> i'm personally for removing evolution from fedora completely
<0> however, i'd settle for removing the unneeded deps
<1> you got my vote as long as we dont los all those goodies listed as dependencies
<1> loose*
<0> i'm sure there are plenty of people who'd like it removed
<1> well it hasnt given me any problems since i use pop im presuming most of the problems are with pop
<2> r3c0n: with IMAP
<1> however, with the latest update for the data-server it's acting up and now listed as a bug..
<0> there is a laundry list of problems with it
<1> err imap
<0> about every 10th update cycle there's some issue with evolution
<2> I don't think our friends at novell are doing the world any favors sponsoring Evolution
<0> how about the fact that evolution dataserver runs in the background regardless of whether you want it to or not
<1> /jumpforjoy more promiscious servers
<1> i hate programs that force themselves on u
<1> and moreover not having a clue of what's running in the backgorund is disturbing.
<0> reminds me of a place in redmond i used to work at
<1> lol
<0> here's a clue ==> ps aux
<1> yeah still getting familiarizied with the 1000+ commands in linux
<1> thanks =]
<0> if you want a gui for that install gps
<1> does the "system monitor" differ from ps? besides that it's gui, does it lack or have more than command-line utils? just taking ur thoughts on it.
<0> here's the most useful commands --> http://openlinuxproject.org/pages/terminal.html
<1> thank you
<0> i don't use gui tools really
<0> they're not as powerful
<0> and not as easy to troubleshoot
<1> ive got a bunch of books ive been meaning to read but with my major revolving around networking and cisco it's hard to find time but im working on it
<0> if you want to learn any new subject at all .. start your own personal howtos
<0> keep a notepad next to your computer
<0> or make short concise text files
<0> does wonders for the memory
<3> r3c0n: majoring in cisco ?
<1> no, but it's a major in network communication and mgmt
<1> studyin ccna alongside
<1> thanks for the tip opsec, im all about notetaking but my problem is organization, still need to keep track of the overload of information i got lying around in unknown places in this hdd
<1> well time to get some work done
<1> nice talking with u and thanks for the tips
<1> later folks
<4> Hello
<5> hi there
<4> Did they fix the libecap error?
<6> Does anyone use KDE here
<4> Hi, s3cur17y. I'm sure someone does, but I doubt they'll admit it. :-)
<6> :)
<5> s3cur17y: yup
<7> hmmm. with a RH style system (actually, this one server is RH 7.3 updated to redhat legacy project, but this question should be fairly generic to all RH distros)... this has a old PHP (4.1.x), and I need a much newer PHP (4.3.x +). that, of course, entails messing with apache too. is there a rpm repository that can be used for this, or do I need to remove all traces of the RH apache+php and build my own from scratch (ugh!)
<5> aTypical::)
<6> --> Processing Dependency: libecal-1.2.so.3 for package: gnome-panel
<6> --> Processing Dependency: libecal-1.2.so.3 for package: evolution
<6> damn it mozilla keeps crashing on me
<5> s3cur17y: use firefox
<6> I am using firefox, but isn't mozilla the core of firefox
<5> s3cur17y:yes
<6> well then
<6> brb
<6> This is pissing me off
<8> Is the libecal dependency issue still unresolved or are my mirrors stale?
<9> its still unresolved for me
<9> even though there is a new evoltion build
<9> evolution-data-server doesnt look updated though
<4> fschmitt, I'm still having the problem.
<10> Hello, I'm having trouble getting my new install to connect to the wireless lan.
<9> oh yea
<10> ...guess this is the wrong place to ask for actual help.
<10> ( I've followed the instructions I've found all the way through ifconfig wlan0 up... )
<10> ( ...and not gotten connected. )
<8> Dynast: No luck with NetworkManager, too?
<10> fschmitt: That's actually the problem.
<10> It will only let me add eth* and the wireless PCI card is at wlan0.
<10> And yes, I have tried fedorasolved.com
<10> I was told to come here for help...
<11> what command to check which ports are open?
<9> Dell selling Intel Woodcrest servers starting today!
<10> frankg: No idea.
<10> But given that I know which port I want...
<4> Dynast, I'm thinking you'd have better luck with the mailing list.
<8> Dynast: Or try system-config-network
<10> aTypical: Where?
<10> fschmitt: Did. It gave me NetworkManager. Unless there was something else I was supposed to do?
<4> Sign up for the Fedora mailing list.
<12> who knows about localedef and locale-archive and build-locale-archive ?
<10> aTypical: Where?
<4> http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/communicate/
<13> hello
<14> Hey, anyone having problems updating Evolution today? Has this been asked a thousand times already?
<8> Dynast: Well, no.
<14> Any urls I should be reading?
<8> Disable the NetworkManager service, kill the applett and configure your card with system-config-network
<10> fschitt: How?
<10> I've not been more than a normal user on a Linux system before now.
<14> Dynast, to disable the Network Manager Service go into Desktop > Administration > Services, select it from the list and click "Stop"
<14> Dynast, I believe that will kill the applet, although I may be wrong
<14> Dynast, Then to edit your settings, go to Desktop > Administration > Network and change the settings there.
<14> Dynast, That's all on Gnome, the menu shortcuts will be different if you're on KDE
<10> chmac: On Gnome. I'll go try it now.
<10> How do I use system-config-network once I've done that?
<14> That was the last step, Desktop > Administration > Network, it's a menu shortcut to the same tool.
<10> Okay...
<15> I will get a new LCD display today, and will get rid of my old CRT. So, a few questions: any problem with changing from analog D-BUS to DVI? and will fedora detect my new panel and set up xserver parameters like frequencies and resolutions?
<16> hi... I have a USB harddisk with damaged sectors. How can I use it? Is there a tool to mark them as dmaaged and format the rest or even recover the damaged sectors ? I dont need the data on it anymore
<14> tokyoahead, I'm no expert by any means, but there are some pretty good tools out there for low level formatting of drives, I believe.
<14> tokyoahead, My experience is primarily with data recovery (and fairly unsuccessful!) so I can't give you much advice, but I'd try scroogling "linux low level format software"
<14> tokyoahead, Check out http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi?Gw=linux+low+level+format
<14> tokyoahead, Food for thought if nothing else...
<16> ok thanks!
<6> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
<10> chmac: Um. Network Configuration does not let me add a device at wlan0. That does not solve my problem...
<6> how do I fix that error
<14> s3cur17y, Need a little more info, what are you trying to do?
<14> Dynast, I don't know what your original problem was, I was just expanding on fschmitt's advice
<14> Dynast, I do know that my wifi device (ipw2100) is on eth0 or eth1, it seems to change according to how NetworkManager detects networks
<17> s3cur17y : well, you're trying to make development things, so you need development packages :p
<17> s3cur17y : "as always".
<6> I have qt installed
<17> I've never said you missed qt.
<14> s3cur17y, I think Anvil is saying you'll need qt-devel or similar installed
<17> you're not reading me
<6> I have qt-devel installed
<14> Dynast, When you're in the network config, you should be able to see your devices on eth0, eth1, etc, it should tell you the hw on each one.
<14> s3cur17y, Then I may have misunderstood what Anvil was saying.
<18> may i know how to backup linux system including boot image into tape drive so that the tape is also bootable?
<17> s3cur17y : we werent supposed to read your mind for that information.
<6> :)
<17> s3cur17y : see the qt.sh script provided by qt-devel, then.
<17> newbies shouldnt make grown up developer things, anyway.
<10> chmac: Mine's on wlan0. It's a rt2500 running through ndiswrapper. http://fedorasolved.com/viewtopic.php?t=88 gives directions right up to where I am.
<19> hi all
<19> !ati
<17> kaiSVK : http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
<17> kaiSVK : come with a real question or leave.
<19> Anvil, thanx ;)
<19> Anvil, u r faaar too kind
<0> you are
<14> Dynast, What error are you getting when you try to add the card on wlan0?
<14> kaiSVK, Ok, just for the ignorant, what does !ati mean? I'm asking purely out of interest.
<10> chmac: No error, it won't even let me try to add the card.
<6> Anvil, what am I looking for in qt.sh
<0> nothing at all
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