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<0> ram_einstein, in that case you are in celeron hell :)
<1> but I already have the rest
<1> one sec... brb
<2> yout: be careful, but "> $thefile" should do it (in bash)
<3> Hi there
<0> if you only have $150 for mb + cpu I would recomend a Socket 775 mb
<3> I've updated from fc4 to fc5 and I have problems with burning cds now
<0> that way you can buy a really cheap cpu now and then upgrade to something better later on
<3> I can't import my multisession disk
<4> hipodilski, upgrade k3b too
<4> I think
<5> nphilipp does not work
<0> For example an Asus P5V800-MX + Celeron D 326
<2> yout: error message?
<5> -bash: $root: ambiguous redirect
<2> yout: you are using the wrong command, you have to replace $thefile with the actual oath of the file you want to truncate, and be careful about typos there!
<5> ok
<6> what is the replacement for xchat now it's a pay software?
<1> noa: back. Can I PM you?
<2> yout: not "oath", but "path"
<1> no, I have a good running machine.. except for the motherboard ie
<7> Vecnah: someone is pulling your leg
<7> Vecnah: xchat is opensource, it's impossible to un-free it
<8> LLyric: there was a debate about 6 months ago about the windows build
<7> Anyone can take the source, and build it, that's how oss works.
<8> and the maintainer's opinion was apparently "you submitted patches to me, and by doing so, you gave me ownership"
<7> even if they stop public development, someone can always fork it, and keep updating it themselves
<8> LLyric: and then was holding back some of the code changes made for the windows port
<8> so some insignificant amount of effort would be required to make windows builds, or you can give him money instead.
<7> Someone should do it, for free, just to fsck him
<7> Taking peoples code changes, without credit or payment, and charging
<8> while I don't disagree with him about how annoying it can be to build stuff on windows, but I strongly disagree with him taking the position that code submitted to him in patches is his, to do as he like
<7> If it's just gtk, why's it so hard?
<7> isn't there gtk+ for windows?
<8> yeah, there is
<8> it's not hard, it's time-consuming
<8> what would take just a few seconds on linux to stat all the files and so on can take ages inside cygwin
<7> sick :)
<8> (ie.. what make does to check what to do next)
<7> People are already making "unofficial" windows builds for free
<8> good for them
<7> http://silenceisdefeat.org/~b0at/xchat/win32/
<8> I still won't use it :-)
<8> I do on linux, but I now would not dream of submitting a patch
<7> Yeah, fsck him
<7> He doesn't own it, the contributors didn't ***ign copyright
<7> His claim to it is bogus
<7> And the offer to rewrite anything that contributors ask him to remove is lip service
<3> mufa: I have it updated
<8> LLyric: I was fairly disgusted and annoyed when it all happened
<9> I just yummed to FC4 in /etc/ I have inittab.rpmnew inittab.rpmsave and inittab ... so which one should I use?
<10> anyone here know how to burn a dvd movie with Nero Linux
<7> LinuxHelp: if rpm made rpmnew/rpmsave you have modified the file, and it couldn't update automagically
<7> You probably need to merge your changes into a new file
<9> LLyric: howcome both rpmnew and rpmsave, whats the difference?
<11> .rpmsave are files from a removal, .rpmnew is a configuration file from a new package.
<9> thx
<11> Your inittab is probably the one you've modified, if you modified it.
<10> I think i figured it out
<11> It is the one in use already, anyhow.
<12> hi, i installed fedora 5 on an athlon xp2000+ with an MSI KT6V mainboard (VIA chipsets) the filesystem gets corrupt frequently and i have to reboot
<12> can anyone help me with that?
<11> How do you figure it is getting corrupt?
<12> AutOPSY: it gets mounted a readonly all of a sudden and when rebooted it checks and cleans the fs
<7> ramezhanna: how are you shutting down the pc?
<12> LLyric: using the shutdown command -h or reboot
<2> ramezhanna: anything in the log files? dmesg output before reboot?
<12> this corruption always happens after i do write operations on disk like using yum or saving files
<11> What filesystem are you using, and what processes are running, what is making it corrupt?
<12> nphilipp: nothing that seemed strange
<12> AutOPSY: ext3
<11> What type of harddrives are you using?
<12> AutOPSY: my guess is that its a bug in the IDE driver that handles write to disk operations
<11> They are IDE disks?
<12> AutOPSY: i'm using a western digital 160G
<9> Western Digital 4tw
<12> yes
<10> how do i find out if my cdrom is mounted
<11> It could be a bug in the controller driver.
<2> s3cur17y: see if you can eject it
<11> I know VIA has alot of problems, none specifically though.
<12> AutOPSY: this happened with fc4 and ubuntu too
<9> btw, whats wrong with a readonly / filesystem? happens all the time with embedded systems :)
<10> nphilipp: in terminal
<11> Run: hdparm /dev/hda
<11> hdparm -Ii /dev/hda
<12> AutOPSY: what should this show me?
<11> See if it tells you anything that is not right for that drive.
<11> In fact, paste it to http://rafb.net/paste
<11> Post the URL. Replace hda with the disk it is.
<12> AutOPSY: i'll reboot into linux and come back in
<12> brb
<11> ...
<2> s3cur17y: "mount | grep iso9660" should work, but you could have HD partitions that use is9660 in theory ;-)
<2> s3cur17y: it's not trivial to get this automated and 100% correct
<2> s3cur17y: unless you know "/dev/hdc is my cdrom", then it's easier
<2> e.g.
<10> my cdrom drive is not mounted
<10> but yet I do see the blank dvd i have in it
<11> CDROM drives do not read DVDs.
<11> You may as well give up on that idea now.
<10> well i mean dvd rom drive sorry
<11> Mhm. I doubt it.
<2> s3cur17y: hal/nautilus recognize the blank dvd and produce the icon to let you write to it
<10> it isn't even in my fstab
<10> well i want to try out nero linux
<2> s3cur17y: FC5 doesn't write fstab for removable devices
<10> grrrr...
<10> well it only shows me Image Writer in nero linux
<13> the failure to write fstab is bug #188193
<13> makes eject, umount, etc. not work
<10> Do any of you burn dvd's
<14> dwmw2_gone: i didnt think cds where in fstab any longer
<10> if so what application do you use
<13> Southern_Gentlem: right. We don't write to fstab even when we mount something... which is wrong. Hence the bug report
<14> xcdroast or k3b
<14> not a bug a enhancement
<12> AutOPSY: where do i paste the output?
<10> nomrepasting.com
<14> http://rafb.net/paste/
<12> AutOPSY: http://rafb.net/paste/results/8jhP6s12.html
<14> bb shortly i finally can get out of this demon OS
<13> Southern_Gentlem: no, definitely a bug. A regression from FC4, where eject and umount used to work -- and pressing the 'eject' button on the keyboard used to work
<15> ramezhanna: Have you tried: smartctl -a /dev/hda ?
<9> Should I replace inittab with inittab.rpmnew ? Because I just did that and my default runlevel is 3 which is strange?
<10> Does anyone have a Wireless Keyboard working with the additional button, like Mail, Web Broswer, Links?
<10> Ok how do i detect my dvd burners writing speed
<9> I guess what I'm asking is whether .rpmnew files are always newer than what you have on your system??
<16> is there a xvnc rpm for fc5 anywhere?
<9> * silence *
<17> s3cur17y, I just setup email shortcut on my wireless key board and it workd
<12> joyr: http://rafb.net/paste/results/flCykm47.html
<10> What kind of keyboard, i have the Microsoft Comort
<12> joyr: this looks fihy
<12> Offline data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection activity
<12> was suspended by an interrupting command from host
<17> s3cur17y, logitech
<10> oh
<10> well poo on you
<10> burning a dvd in K3b, lets see how it works
<10> oh yay!, I don't think DMA is enabled
<10> it is writing at 2.52x
<12> joyr what do you think?
<1> all: my motherboard is in a very bad way and I need a new one. Do AMD chipsets get overheated quickly? Should I go for Intel?
<10> AMD
<15> ramezhanna: Looks healthy for me, you could try running some self tests, for example: smartctl -t long /dev/hda
<18> AMD-64 is best
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