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<0> what cracks me up most with this sounds problem btw, is that when I try to reproduce, it doesn't occur
<0> oh, ehci_hcd makes my kernel panic, so it's not loaded :p
<1> rjune: psi?
<2> Foolish: yeah. it's a jabber client
<3> jabber only
<3> i dont see anything wrong with gaim :o
<3> i love it
<1> I would rather go with gossip then, which has an interface I can like. Unfortuneatly, a jabber client won't be good enough for me.
<4> is it possible to bind keys on the keyboard to specific commands, like my Dell keyboard has keys for controlling a media player
<3> i use it on windows and nix
<1> I use it on windows and nix as well, just because there's no better alternative.
<1> it is still a pest in my gnome desktop though.
<2> Foolish: why won't jabber work?
<3> why is it a pest?
<2> need more then just basic IM?
<5> Foolish, wait for gaim 2.0, beta looks great
<6> gaim is okay, but reverse engineering the moving target protocols is a constant battle
<3> rjune, he needs more than just jabber
<1> [bugi]: I'm using the latest beta, and no, it doesn't look great.
<2> theconartist: that's helpful. I'm asking him specificly what he needs
<3> rjune, something that does what gaim does but better
<3> thats what he said
<1> rjune: because I'm dependant on some msn features jabber can't provide me.
<5> Foolish, ok, i wont argue, but i like new gaim
<6> cam support in msn and yahoo will be a must to get wider use of linux amongst the m***es too
<1> I don't, it's slightly less painful, but still far from good.
<2> who was it working on cam support in IM. linspire wasn't it?
<1> plokta: sure, but as long as we can't do a proper client without the camera, why bother adding more features to the cluttered interface of gaim? Not that the project of getting video and chat support via gstreamer, whatever it was called, isn't noble, it is.
<7> what about ekiga? can't it do webcams and msn?
<8> Anyone know about http://yum.nrpms.net/ site being down?
<1> vpv: can do webcams, but not msn
<8> my nrpms updates are stalled now
<6> I think one other program (yes, ekiga might be the one) does cam support, I think gaim moved a bit on it's internal apis and so the cam support went unmerged in 2.0
<8> I am updating my FC4 machine after a long time
<8> and yum complains about not finding any baseurl
<1> rjune: there's this project that replaced gaim-vv that's working on it, I don't remember what it was called. As I understand it it's supposed to build something all clients of msn/yahoo and so forth can use to make cams just work.
<6> they are trying to merge gaim-vv into the mainline but it missed the 2.0 cutoff
<9> rjune, kopete has working cam support.
<2> lunitik: I don't care about it. I don't use the cam
<9> rjune, my fault... I thought you asked about cam support :/
<9> works for msn and yahoo at least... only open source messenger right now that supports it properly...
<2> lunitik: well, if I ever decide to use it, I know.
<9> (gaim-vv does incomming msn and yahoo... but can't do outbound afaik)
<2> kopete has piss poor gpg support
<9> rjune, s/kopete/kde/ (if thats even a true statement... kopete uses kgpg)
<2> nope, just kopete
<2> most KDE stuff works fine, but kopete does some stupid stuff
<9> rjune, umm... like I said... it uses the kde implementation of gpg...
<2> like writes conversations out encrypted.
<10> i just hooked up a usb wireless adapter to the linux machine (FC5), how do i get linux to see and utilize it?
<2> so when I go to history, I can only read the half of the chat that comes in
<2> not that half that I send
<9> rjune, weird... no one I talk to uses any kind of security, so I've never tested :/
<2> nobody you talk to is paranoid enough apparently
<9> rjune, I'm 22... most of my freinds aren't geeky enough to be paranoid...
<2> don't have to be geeky to be paranoid.
<2> just have to pay attention to your govt
<9> not too many of the people I ***osiate with care about much other than what club they're going to that weekend ;)
<2> lunitik: so you don't exactly hang with the leaders of tomorrow.
<2> don't feel bad, neither do I
<9> rjune, oh I don't... geeks don't tend to be very fun to hang out with...
<2> sorry
<11> lunitik: geek's aren't fun! i take offence! i'm hilarious ;)
<2> I won't tell you about my wife.
<10> i just hooked up a usb wireless adapter to the linux machine (FC5), how do i get linux to see and utilize it?
<9> GalacticWare, search google for ndiswrapper
<5> eh, i can't force this google live search in deskbar to work :-/ i have my key, i have wsdl file and it still does not work :-/
<9> nyq, meh... no one that thinks they are funny EVER are...
<9> humor is not something that can be practiced...
<11> lunitik: no one that has ever spoken english has tried ever!!!
<11> lunitik: ever!!
<9> nyq, not true at all
<11> lunitik: hell, my girlfrend is laughing so I must be a funny geek ;)
<9> nyq, making wise cracks is not funny btw
<11> lunitik: hah!
<12> hi.
<12> i've purchased a microsoft natural keyboard. but all the F1-12 keys do not work. i've modified the entry in /etc/X11/xorg.conf it worked during the session but since i've rebooted the computer they remain inactive
<12> any hints?
<13> what's the current kernel version?
<13> what's the current kernel version
<10> now all i have to do is configure it. got it by using yum
<12> 2.6.15
<14> yum is awesome.. :-)
<12> websae, just type uname -a
<11> websae: www.kernel.org
<8> anybody here uses nrpms?
<12> you mean the repo?
<8> vinadelmar: yes
<15> spundun: they are closed
<8> vinadelmar: the repo seems down for a week now... I am updating after a few months
<12> nope... i find it not reliable
<15> spundun: might want to read the front page
<11> thanks ;)
<15> spundun: "Closed for Business"
<11> more like, change of heart
<8> EvilBob: ugh.. silly me.
<15> nyq: Yeah that also I guess
<16> hey ya'll... just a quick question... how does one hard code a fedora mirror list for yum?
<15> spundun: nyq is the guy you want to poke in the eye
<11> eek. painful. hope no one has anything sharp nearby
<17> when i installed kdar with make install how can i remove it when it doesnt seem to work? make clean?
<8> nyq: EvilBob: hmmm so what should be my poa on cleaning up packages from that repo and getting back to regular packages?
<18> 6mins of power left in this battery - be back when I get the plug in :)
<8> nyq: EvilBob: or should I just upgrade to FC5 ?
<11> spundun: i'd suggest upgrading to fc5
<12> me too
<8> nyq: you think thats all I'll need to do?
<12> gnome 2.14 is awesome
<15> spundun: I suggest clean installs between versions
<11> spundun: funny question. it depends on what problem you're trying to solve and what you're trying to achieve
<15> But I am Evil that way
<8> nyq: upgrade.
<16> anyone?
<11> spundun: ah, k
<12> nope
<15> AceVonWildfire: look at the main mirror list, open your favorite editor and make one....
<11> spundun: if you've been good enough to put your /home on a separate partition then (re)-install is best
<16> EvilBob: is there a name I have to use for the file?
<11> spundun: if not, you will have to use the cd's to upgrade. i've not heard of anyone having any problems with this, but maybe they've just not told me
<8> nyq: hmmm.. but I still lose my userlist etc... in /etc/p***wd etc files right?
<15> AceVonWildfire: no, you just reference that file in you .repo file
<11> spundun: yeh, but that doesn't stop you from making a backup of /etc/ (it'll only be a few Mib)
<16> mirrorlist: filename
<16> ?
<11> spundun: that's what I did
<15> AceVonWildfire: sure
<16> k
<8> nyq: oh... backup the entire /etc and then overwrite it? And that worked??
<15> AceVonWildfire: with all the problems you have with yum I wonder why you would do this
<16> so I can eliminate the mirrors I've been have problems with
<15> AceVonWildfire: I suppose
<11> spundun: well, not as 'blunt' as that in reality
<11> spundun: take a backup and once reinstalled put back in place all the 'major' configs in /etc
<8> nyq: hmmm
<16> EvilBob... I've been trying to download updates all day... but it never gets to the point where I can actually update my computer
<16> yum eventually errors out
<11> spundun: you could encounter some problems simply replacing the older files with new ones
<16> from all of the 404's
<11> spundun: specifically, file formats may have changed between fc4 and fc5
<11> spundun: apache 2.0 to 2.2 being a good example
<8> so how do I decide which files ...
<16> my guess is that some of the mirrors are not complete
<16> or not fully up-to-date
<11> spundun: take note of the config's you /know/ you've changed; backup /etc/ just in case and go for it
<19> i've not been having problems with yum; is this FC5?
<20> I've always had a problem with SELinux and UserDirs
<8> nyq: hmmm ok... thats what I was thinking too.
<21> for an integrated videocard solution aiglx kix major butt!
<20> does anyone know how to config it so that I can see UserDirs with apache on my FC5/SELinux box?
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