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<0> Radical_Edward: you need libxml-devel to compile against libxml
<1> i know
<1> i went through all of this yesterday
<2> |Jef|, you are correct he has been compiling
<2> Radical_Edward, rpm -q zlib-devel
<3> Argh, mc+fish is stupid. if you move a file to a fish filesystem and it is out of space. the file is gone.
<4> Ouch - Looks like FC5 has some serious problems with anything newer than the ATI 9800 series..... joy.
<2> |Jef|, to me he appears to have tech9ineritis
<1> tech9ineritis?
<5> |Jef|, what about making RPMs for all this crap you are talking about? There will always be a time, that a newer version of some library, on which many other packages depend, will be needed in order to compile something.
<2> Radical_Edward, yep keeps messing with things he shouldnt and dont listen to anyone
<4> Radical: If you really want to compile everything yourself - you might want to go to gentoo. :)
<1> to tell you the truth, i hate compliling
<1> i was asked to do it this way as a challange
<1> pain in my butt
<2> Radical_Edward, then dont do it
<4> What are you trying to compile?
<2> if you can use the rpms use them
<1> i'm setting up a LAMP server
<4> The only thing I've compiled on FC5 is gaim 2.0beta3
<6> DforgeH: is the RC410 newer than the 9800?
<0> Radical_Edward: here's how i setup a lamp server
<0> Radical_Edward: i download CentOS... i install CentOS.. i have a LAMP server
<4> br***hopper: Isn' that the ati motherboard?
<3> |Jef|: you forgot checking A and M in the package selection
<6> DforgeH: aye
<1> lol
<0> AndyCap: it has yum.. and i use kickstart
<3> |Jef|: ah, undocumented steps. :P
<4> br***hopper: I'm not sure what graphics chipsetthat motherboard has.
<3> |Jef|: that's probably what tripped up Radical_Edward
<0> AndyCap: what's tripped up Radical_Edward is his brain
<2> tech9ineritis
<1> i think i have an ID10T error
<3> Radical_Edward: incidentally, if your doing this as a challenge, isn't asking for help cheating.
<0> AndyCap: the fact that he is complaining about libxml and NOT libxml2 hints at deep deep problems with what he's trying to do
<4> ouch
<6> DforgeH: until I installed the drivers from livna, my screen was a real mess - I could not find any setting that got all my real estate on the screen. It claims it will do VESA, but there is just something wrong with the timings.
<1> it is libxml2
<4> br***hopper: FC4 or FC5?
<6> DforgeH: FC5 now, but it was screwed up on both FC4 and FC5
<2> Dforgeh what kernel
<1> it's like saying gcc instead of gcc-c++
<0> Radical_Edward: no dumb*** its not
<0> Radical_Edward: libxml and libxml2 are different codebases
<3> |Jef|: apart from the fact that replacing libxml is sort of converting your engine from pushrod to OHC.
<0> Radical_Edward: good day
<4> Sounthern_Gentlem: I've got the current non-testing kernel.
<4> I've tried using the xorg-ati and xorg-radeon driver.
<2> DforgeH, 2080?
<4> yes
<1> calm down people damn, you leave out the number 2 and everyone jumps on your back
<2> the ones from livna?
<0> AndyCap: things still use libxml in Core and in Extras...
<7> Only about 4 though.
<2> DforgeH, the ones from livna?
<7> Certainly DV seems glad to see that it's so low.
<0> ignacio: hence the plural
<4> I'm not sure actually... I'm 90% sure I didn't get them from livna.
<4> It was perfectly fine with the 9800
<4> but upgrading to the X800 makes it hard lock
<4> after working in X for a while - WinXP is stable.
<2> Dforgeh why are you doing the stuff outside the core
<4> What do you mean?
<2> DforgeH, try this
<2> http://fedorasolved.org/video-solutions/configuring-an-ati-card-using-yum-and-the-livna-repository/
<4> wow - they modded the fglrx driver to work with 7.0? neat.
<2> Dforge, duh
<6> Southern_Gentlem: In some cases you just want function - VESA was supposed to solve this - my understanding was that VESA was supposed to provide a standard interface to basic, non-accelerated function at standard timings, but that did not work for me with the ATI I had.
<4> Southern_Gentlem: I'm just suprised...
<2> br***hopper, see we have told you to go buy nvidia
<4> Did you ever try to get the 6.7 driver to work with 6 .8?
<4> That was hell.
<4> Rebooting to try fgrlx
<4> err fglrx
<2> DforgeH, nope i have used the livna repos and dont have to worry about it
<8> i was looking at fedora extras graphical internet section for rss readers...theres a few there...which one would you all recommend out of .. liferea, pan, rssowl and straw ?
<9> pan. it has a cool name.
<7> pan does RSS?
<2> whats wrong with Firefox
<2> or evolution
<10> wow i feel like im a day trader or something - i just switched on the stock ticker lol
<8> pan: A GNOME/GTK+ news reader for X <<ignacio thats from fc5 extras
<7> I know it does NNTP, but I've never heard of it doing RSS.
<8> Southern_Gentlem, i would like a separate client, try it out a few news feeds
<7> Anyways, I use Liferea myself and am generally happy with it.
<11> hi all; I'm trying to find somewhere to download individual packages out of FC4. Any pointers?
<3> mikdeazy: so what's your position in fedora at the moment?
<3> Chipaca: http://fedora.redhat.com/Download/mirrors.html
<9> Chipaca: fedora.redhat.com. find the mirrors section
<11> AndyCap, Codename_V: all I've found in the mirrors so far are the ISOs, not the individual packages
<9> Chipaca: you're not looking hard enough
<10> AndyCap position ??
<11> Codename_V: ok, I'll adjust my search strength
<11> :)
<3> mikdeazy: were you not feeling like a daytreader?
<10> lol misspelled it - day-trader
<8> ignacio, i thought news and rss were the same, my mistake. pan doesnt do rss. ill try liferea as suggested, i remember you suggested notecase and i still use that...
<9> Chipaca: heck, pretty much the first one: http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/
<11> Codename_V: aren't those only the RPMS from the boot cd?
<4> Well, at least the driver loads... my FPS is crap... but let me work on the .conf file I had to bastardized it quite a bit to get dual head working with FC5.
<10> AndyCap - only becuase i turned the stock ticker applet on
<9> Chipaca: yep. you want updates then?
<9> Chipaca: in that case. you're not looking hard enough. =)
<12> Anyone know off-hand which gnome dir contains the supplementary evolution info?
<11> Codename_V: no... I mean, aren't those just from the 1st cd?
<9> Chipaca: nope. that's everything.
<11> maybe the mirror I checked that part was incomplete. Thanks!
<13> systest: what is "supplementary evolution info"?
<12> nphilipp: additional email profiles etc
<14> Does anyone know any doc on how to get wpa_supplicant running as a service on FC4
<12> nphilipp: some stuff ends up under ~/.evolution other in, I think ~/.gconf/apps
<0> systest: "content" like mail and addresses and tasks e in .evolution... if its configuration related then its most likely in the .gconf namespace for evolution
<15> afternoon all
<12> |Jef|: thanks
<15> question: how can I tell a service / daemon to start automatically. fx /etc/init.d/httpd I'd like to have start on boot.
<7> chkconfig
<15> thanks ignacio :)
<6> MrCraig: There are several choices. For that particular one, typ "man chkconfig"
<0> systest: my guess would be /home/jspaleta/.gconf/apps/evolution/mail/%gconf.xml
<0> systest: on my system
<15> thanks br***hopper - the cmd line help was enough I think --add option :)
<12> |Jef|: trying to locate the file that contains the signatures. Major PITA the way gnome splits stuff up like that.
<0> systest: shrug
<16> hi hopefully a simple question ;) x86, 1 drive, 1 folder, ext3, default settings -what is the maximum number of files i can place under this folder ?
<6> MrCraig: Yeah - sometimes an end user wants to run something on boot - they can do that through cron. And there is one thing that I personally move out of that part of init and directly into inittab - ssh - so that it gets restarted.
<6> MRH2: How many inodes are free on the filesystem?
<6> MRH2: That is how many files oyu can put in the directory. Will it perform well? No. But I have had badly designed apps throw millions of files into a single directory.
<16> are inodes purely related to the physical disk size?
<17> no, one can define the amount of inodes while creating the partition
<17> (ext2/ext3)
<6> MRH2: They are - and the ratio, or absolute number, is controlled when you make the filesystem for ext2/3
<6> MRH2: For some circumstances, you want as many inodes as you have disk blocks - INN style news comes to mind.
<18> any one had problems with open office crashing when you export (a rather simple) document to xhtml?
<16> by default in fc5 do inodes= disk blocks
<6> MRH2: but for "typical" use you want about 1/2 to 1/4 as many.
<6> MRH2: Probably not. What do you plan on doing here, if you do not mind me asking?
<17> the whole issue of inodes and amount of files in a directory depends on the filesystem. reiserfs has no problems with dealing million files in a single directory
<16> just storing a whole bunch of smallish files
<6> MRH2: Because there are many performance considerations. While you CAN put a million files into a single directory, you probably do not want to.
<17> if one has loads and loads of small files (say 50 bytes), reiserfs saves tons of diskspace in that case
<6> fatal-: Yes, but reiser has its own bugs and perfformance traps. It is also true that ext2 has planned on smaller than a cluster files for a very long time and has never implemented it as far as I know. So a small file in ext2/3 will take a block minimum, plus an inode. I don't know if there is extra space taken up if the file name is longer than 14 characters or not anymore.
<6> There is also some support mentioned for searching large directories with something other than sequential search in ext3. I don't know if it has ever been implemented.
<17> binary tree support for ext3 exists
<17> but it is considered unstable
<18> is there any way i can replace the libgcj (the free java lib) with the official sun one? i'm having problems with openoffice and it keeps cashing in the libgcj stuff
<6> fatal-: I've never tested it.
<17> the patch has existed for years already
<19> hi! does someone know how to solve problems like " ... unknown parameter ..." when loading a compiled driver through modprobe
<19> ?
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