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<0> gattax and iagno runs just fine with nv drivers. :P
<1> that's not a bad belly speed :-P
<2> AndyCap: no doubt, quake 3 is dismal with the nv driver
<0> on a related note, enemy territory is playable with the radeon driver on a Mobility M9. :)
<2> what is beagle-build-in, and why is it pigging out on my cpu time?
<2> i didn't think I had beagled running
<1> :( No Match for argument: kmod-nvidia-2.6.16-1.2080_FC5
<2> :-\
<1> can i cry now?
<1> :(
<2> and you have livna enabled and such?
<1> i've been trying to get it happening since yesterday
<1> yup
<2> what if you do yum list 'kmod-nvidia*' ?
<2> oh
<2> jeebus



<3> you mean -p
<2> they had to go and make this more dificult
<2> kmod-nvidia-1.0.8178-6.2.6.16_1.2080_FC5
<1> have installed like 2.5 gig of apps from the repos. have dries, freshrpms, base, updates, security and legacy and livna, all installed and enabled
<2> To install the nvidia drivers simply execute "yum install kmod-nvidia" <--from rpm.livna.org
<1> yes...tried that
<1> just doing a "yum list kmod-nvidia*" now
<2> i pasted the name of the packsge up there ^^
<2> package*
<1> yumex claims that it is already installed
<2> rpm -q kmod-nvidia
<1> kmod-nvidia-1.0.8178-6.2.6.16_1.2080_FC5
<2> yep
<2> it's installed
<1> how do i make it happy? :-)
<2> you can either modprobe nvidia, edit the xorg.conf file and restart X, or reboot
<2> er, the first two are inclusive
<1> modprobe nvidia
<1> FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.16-1.2080_FC5/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko): No such device
<1> :(
<2> ...
<2> what card do you have?
<4> cyclone_kleigh: "rpm -q
<1> nVidia TNT2 AGP with 32Mb
<4> cyclone_kleigh: "rpm -q
<4> grrr
<4> fingers are not working
<4> cyclone_kleigh: I think you will need a legacy driver for that old card
<2> yeah
<1> yes...I usually install the legacy one on earlier FC installs.....
<2> i think the nvidia driver is only geforce and up
<1> but I'm not sure how on this new install of FC5
<4> cyclone_kleigh: I am not sure is one is available for FC5 yet
<1> faery's nuts. that would explain a lot :P
<2> nope, just the one
<4> cyclone_kleigh: "rpm -q xorg-x11-drv-nvidia"
<1> xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-1.0.8178-7.lvn5
<2> hrm, 2:15 till the alarm goes off, time for bed :)
<2> night all
<1> night night AntonTakk, and thanks for your help :-)
<4> Night AntonTakk
<1> thanks to you also EvilBob
<4> cyclone_kleigh: I guess you are stuck using the nv driver for now
<1> ah huh...so it would seem. Oh well....no games for a while then.
<1> the kids will shoot me for upgrading now :P
<1> bad mummy....killed the video card
<4> lol
<5> How do i make use of IEEE 1394 Ethernet. How do i enable it?
<6> Can I install FC5 only from the first cd? Only base system plus gnome?
<7> BluehawkPDM : Dont cry if you try and fail.
<6> Just wanted to know if it possible. One of my boxes fails to read the dvd
<6> Or if anybody already tried to install only from disk 1
<1> you can do a network install using boot.iso, BluehawkPDM
<3> Bluehawk: my console only system took disk 2 for 1 or 2 packaged.
<6> kk this might be a possibility.
<6> Eusa, console only and needing disk 2?
<3> yes
<5> !1394
<6> k thx
<5> my IEEE 1394 ethernet is not detected. how can i enable it?



<7> prudhvi : if there's no driver, there's no driver. The only thing you can do is to develop a driver or find one.
<5> Anvil, it gets detected on FreeBSD 6.0 and Debian Unstable
<7> prudhvi : i was supposed to guess that ?
<7> prudhvi : http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
<1> BluehawkPDM, there is information on the Network Install method, here: http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/fc5/sn-before-begin.html#sn-installing-networkinstallation
<3> WEll he didn't like that response then
<8> how do i install a rpm as a .bin file?
<7> Boojy : that question has no sense.
<7> Boojy : describe correctly what you intend to do.
<8> lol alright
<8> i downloaded the java runtime and its jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-rpm.bin ..... how do i install it?
<9> Boojy: run it, it creates a rpm and installs it
<8> ok. how do i run it?
<9> bash jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-rpm.bin
<3> nice.
<8> all these commands
<8> im gonna get lost soon :)
<7> Boojy : '.bin' means nothing - file name dont reveal the content of files. We know that sun provides a .rpm file encapsulated in a shell script.
<1> or in a terminal, type: sh jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-rpm.bin
<7> Boojy : execute the .bin file and it'll give you a .rpm file, which you will be able to install.
<9> Anvil: actually, iirc it installs it too
<8> different between bash and sh? and thanks anvil, sorry for being brief
<9> If you're root :)
<9> Boojy: same diff on most systems
<7> Boojy : this said, I seem to recall that sun java (jre/sdk) is not 'clean' in a fedora point of view. fedora core release notes may have a word about it.
<7> Boojy : sh and bash have different features.
<9> Yeah, they don't reccomend installing sun jdk, but sticking with the fedora java stuff
<7> we still dont have a Free java plugin built with gcj ?
<1> Boojy: there are detailed instructions on precisely how to install java in Fedora Core 5, here: >> http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-fc5.html#java
<10> anyone here with ati x200 on laptop got dual head working? checked out fedoraforum and tried pretty much all the suggestions... still gets clones for laptop LCd and external monitor. thx
<9> Anvil: on fedora, /bin/sh is just a symlink to /bin/bash
<9> But it might behave a little different, true
<9> Might disable the bash-extensions?
<7> LLyric : you're not a developper, are you ?
<8> ouch
<9> Anvil: sure I am, but I write portable scripts
<9> :Q
<9> No deep bash magic
<7> LLyric : programs know how they are called. When invoked as 'sh', bash disable some extensions to be more stupid like sh is
<9> That's what I said
<9> like busybox, only less so :)
<7> yes, but you didnt seem so sure
<9> To be honest, I script for bash, not sh
<7> `sh' behaviour is described in man bash.
<9> So I haven't paid attention to the differences
<9> bash is sh+extrastuff
<7> LLyric : I script for zsh, most of the time. I try to avoid bash/sh. :p
<11> gentlemen! no fighting in #fedora!
<1> must go bot a ciggie off a neighbour. bb
<7> zcat : we arent fighting. I even had time to polish my double-sided axe.
<7> +no :d
<1> leave the men to hash out the bash arguments :P
<9> hash? no, this ain't no real language.
<12> How 'bout sh'bang out the bash args?
<13> emacs ****s! vi rocks!
<14> hi everyone!
<1> hi dartmolx
<1> are there any developers in the room, who might be able to advise as to when an nVidia legacy drivers rpm module may become available?
<9> legacy?
<1> yeh...as in for an nv TNT2
<9> The current nvidia drivers don't work?
<1> nup
<9> and the stock xorg ones?
<1> spent two days trying though :-)
<1> running ppracer I got 2 frames per second :(
<15> yum seems a bit faster this time around. or is it just me?
<1> on a Duron 880 Mhz w/320 Mb RAM and nVidia AGP TNT2 /32 Mb RAM
<9> Should be better than that
<1> yum is defintely slightly faster


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