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<0> mutk: the only question is. do you have an exit strategy. :-P
<1> AndyCap, The fireescape for when the boss finds out :)
<0> LOL
<0> Yeah, that will work too.
<2> mutk, well i'm one of those people that use FC4 on production server
<1> ari_stress, I am all for it. Take the responsibility on yourself, have a good data backup. etc..
<2> mutk, agree. in fact, i prefer fc than centos
<2> what do you think of centos?
<3> is there a problem with yum update and udev package, or is it just my mirror that doesn't have that file?
<4> ignacio: do you know a windows manager that I can install to replace metacity?
<1> It does not face the general public though..
<5> [FC4 install, asus A7N8X Deluxe, SiI 3112A SATA RAID controller] Anybody know which direction to point me: FC4 installer doesn't detect drives on my SATA RAID controller (my only drive), and the only drivers provided by ASUS are for RH7.3-9.0, so I ***umed one of the SiI drivers from FC4 would work, but nogo.
<1> ari_stress, It is good. I use RHEL systems now.
<2> lucky you mutk. i know centos is much more stable, but.. does it have any extra package such as dries and livna?
<6> There are lots. xfwm, kwm, fluxbox, etc., etc....
<0> ari_stress: I also run Fedora on production boxes, but it would be careless to advise others to do the same
<0> ari_stress: some of the 3rd party repos package for RHEL/Centos, but not sure who.
<6> System Tools | Configuration Editor, /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/current
<6> Because that's obviously your next question.
<2> guys, do you know how to setup irda?
<0> ari_stress: you toss it and go buy a cable. :-P
<0> ari_stress: there is an irda howto on tldp.org though
<2> AndyCap, i wish i could. my boss wants me to setup a sms gateway, but he doesnt want to buy the gsm modem first. so, i must try it using my k700i
<2> :(
<0> ari_stress: bluetooth
<2> wish my notebook has bluetooth. well, i'll try with the irda first
<7> How to resolve this error: Error: kernel conflicts with udev < 071-0.FC4.1
<6> Wait until the new udev hits the mirrors.
<2> err guys... how do i make sure that my notebook has bluetooth device on it?
<6> lsusb, lspci
<0> ari_stress: lsusb usually
<6> hcitool
<0> ari_stress: look in the bios first and make sure to enable/turn it on
<2> well, my acerTM802 has a bluetooth button on it, but the salesperon said that it's not active
<2> but in dmesg i got this:
<2> Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
<2> Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
<6> That's the software side.
<2> i see
<6> hciconfig will tell you if you have the hardware.
<4> ignacio: so would I want to google WindowMaker or WM?
<6> Um, no.
<6> Pick one of the half-dozen or so in the main repos and install it.
<4> what should I search for in yum
<4> yum grouplist wm
<6> Do you have a specific WM you'd rather use?
<4> now, I would like to see a few screen shots, or something...
<4> I want something that I can change that over all theme, like taskbar, window decoration, ect...
<6> www.xwinman.org
<0> ratpoinson!
<0> poison..
<2> hmm... where is modules.conf in FC4? i can't find it
<1> ari_stress, modprobe.conf
<8> ari_stress : modules.conf has been deprecated with 2.5 kernel series.
<9> OT:would anyone mind bumping up this ebay auction (so itwill meet the reserver hopefully).. i want this thinkg :/
<8> trend : completely OT : not here.
<9> hmm, ok.. where should I ask this in?
<10> #debian
<10> ;)
<9> lol !
<8> trend : dont know, dont care.
<11> I have a question about something. Is it possible to have a mount point on my server (e.g. /home/user/public_html/backups) LOOK like a directory on my server, but it is actually a directory on a remote FTP server?
<12> acer2k: There is stuff out there to do that but I don't think any implementations are currently in FC, still a bit experimental
<11> ah
<12> plokta: I'll be happily proved wrong though of course! :)
<11> How does NFS work?
<8> acer2k : it works well.
<8> another question ?
<12> acer2k: It conforms to the nfs protocol :)
<11> lol
<11> Can NFS mount a point located on another sever?
<11> server*
<12> acer2k: That is exactly what nfs is for
<11> Ahh. Thanks! :)
<12> but the other end needs to have exported the area you wish to mount
<11> Hey plokta. have you heard of sshfs?
<4> grrr, why can i run two yums
<1> s3cur17y, Why _can_ or why _can't_ ?
<4> can't
<1> s3cur17y, yum requires an exclusive lock on the RPM database
<8> s3cur17y : because you havent implemented that mechanism in it.
<13> any one found the new virus ?
<8> ideafix : we dont care about virii
<13> im still looking
<13> i just colect them
<13> i can trad you mydoom for it
<8> ideafix : you're definitely off topic here then.
<1> ideafix, We are not interested in windows virii
<4> Anvil how would i do that
<8> ideafix : so i suggest you find a more appropriate channel to discuss this kind of things.
<1> s3cur17y, 2 computers
<8> s3cur17y : it's free software, man. Just patch the source code.
<13> whats the topic ?
<8> ideafix : fedora, of course.
<1> ideafix, /topic and read it :)
<13> i can even trad you cih !!!
<13> that ones really nasty
<13> well i guess im gona have to reboot
<8> ideafix : you stop or get a ban. Your choice.
<13> im gona try pentoo channel now
<8> yeah yeah. Please leave
<14> Hey anyone use an intellimouse optical with a synaptics touchpad? They don't play well together.
<8> dragoon : you can use whatever number of mice altogether afaik.
<14> Anvil, yeah, until you want those side buttons on the intellimouse to work and then xmodmap refuses due to the synaptics mouse having 12 buttons.
<14> Apparently some utility called xinput is supposed to deal with this, but it died alone on the x.org server
<14> Debian had a copy, but eew... imake required.
<15> i'd caution against using ANY ms hardware or "software"
<16> i have a 64 bit machine.. how do i upgrade the kernel to 64 bit mode ?
<15> did you install the system witha 64 bit disc?
<16> daehepod: no
<15> then format and reinstall
<15> download the proper dvd iso
<15> x86_64
<14> daehepod, sorry, but I like that mouse. Favorite thing MS ever did, for me.
<15> i use a nyko airflow mouse
<15> make my fingers feel secksie
<14> Optical? With mousewheel, and side buttons for back/forward in firefox?
<15> optical, mousewheel .. no annoying sidebuttons
<15> instead i get a functional internal fan that cools my sweaty hand
<14> Yeah, normally, I'd agree, and Nyko is pretty, but I like the Intellimouse Optical sidebuttons. Only mouse where they don't annoy me.
<15> i can'
<15> i can;'t ethically support or condone the use of anything ms
<14> Mmm, that's fine. Think I've got it sorted out anyways.
<15> i'm content to let the "softies" hide behind their green sheet of lies
<14> Alright, let's see if it works.
<14> Hmm, that did it. Apparently it thinks it has 9 buttons. Go fig.
<17> yay...only 866 WMA's to convert to mp3
<15> wma = garbage quality .. wma converted to wma = worse than garbage quality
<10> AlienBlood: sounds like a job for a for loop
<15> *wma converted to *mp3
<17> most of them are 320kbps, I think
<17> it shouldn't be too bad
<17> I'll find out tomorrow night when I pump them through 4,000W of poweramps
<8> daehepod : wma quality is far far better than mp3 and vorbis.
<15> i disagree
<17> they're all equal quality, if the settings are correct
<15> wma quality is horrible
<17> daehepod: I've never had a problem with their quality
<8> daehepod : well.. blind tests reveal it's the best lossy codec.
<15> i'd prefer a shn
<17> shn?
<14> lossless.
<15> Anvil: 9 out of 10 dentists surveyed?
<14> daehepod, not a FLAC? shame.
<8> daehepod : wma is before (in order) mp3 pro, vorbis, and mp3.
<17> if I had the drive space, I'd do all .wav
<14> AlienBlood, what's wrong with lossless?
<8> AlienBlood : FLAC is the "Free Lossless Audio Codec". There's no need to keep verbatim wav.
<17> but they play around 80dB between bands that average 90-95dB
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