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<0> man, someone really needs to update the maximim rpm book
<1> Xris: well everything works fine but just at 800 x 600 the text is easier to read doesent look as blocky
<0> ahh, found the new version. still not much help
<2> xris: perpetual draft, but still useful. http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/drafts/rpm-guide-en/
<1> Xris: is there a way i can put linux on this laptop i have? The CD-ROM drive works when it wants too...
<3> will cordless keyboard/mouse plug and play on FC5?
<4> wuming: depends, most of them are normal keyboards and so should work fine
<0> wuming: depends on which one it is.
<3> can you give me an example the one works?
<0> TuffPoo: um, yes?
<0> wuming: logitech
<0> standard usb/ps2 plugs
<1> Xris: the laptop i have is so messed up
<0> TuffPoo: seriously, the only way to know for sure is to try
<5> wuming, yes
<1> Xris: ok im going to try thanks man for helping me so much!!!
<5> wuming, mine worked just after installation, no problem
<0> fedorared: give up already? ;)
<3> usan, are they working during the installation?
<5> wuming, mine is logitech cordless desktop mx3000
<2> xris: yeah. spec's a bit complex. :P
<5> wuming, yes
<0> fedorared: yeah, it was a PITA to write (the original one from atrpms was FAR worse to read).
<1> Xris: ok i get the error on that laptop saying "Error Loading Operating system"
<6> hey xris
<3> anyone using a dual core CPU? how is it with FC?
<0> TuffPoo: sounds like a media error (or broken cdrom, since you mentioned that)
<0> wuming: works great
<0> rjune: heya
<6> xris: you gettnig mythtv for livna?
<0> no, I'm trying to get help with that spec I was working on last night. I'm happy to do both, though. just didn't want to bug Anvil when he looked busy. heh.
<3> xris: amd or intel?
<0> wuming: intel 820
<6> where's the spec?
<0> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythtv-svn-rpmbuild-modularxorg.spec
<6> I have a spec for 0.19 that works.
<3> xris: nice, how much you think the performance improved
<0> oh, this one works now. I'm just trying to get the svn update/checkout stuff above where it defines the release tag.
<6> so whats' the problem?
<0> wuming: no clue. I want from a dual athlon 1900. it's about twice as fast for video encoding (only real benchmark I have), but the cpu is, too, just in raw mhz.
<0> rjune: can't run shell script before %prep
<6> xris: what command do you want to run?
<0> the "if [ ! -f '%{_mythsvnroot}/%{name}/README'" block down under prep
<0> wuming: s/want/went/
<6> %define with_oci8 %{?_with_oci8:1}%{!?_with_oci8:0}
<6> xris: %define VARNAME %{command}
<4> umm do people run mythtv with oracle?
<6> not that I know of
<0> AndyCap: mythtv uses mysql, nothing else.
<0> rjune: yeah, for some reason putting that whole if block insodeof %() didn't work
<0> or rather, it works, but when I attach it to %define, it doesn't execute
<6> I used to do something like that
<6> look for an old bgw package
<1> is FC5 good for a laptop?
<0> rjune: duh, thanks.. the courier package has all kinds of stuff like that.. for some reason I never thought to look there before (maybe because I was doing this at 2 AM last night)
<0> TuffPoo: probably better than fc1-4
<6> heh
<7> TuffPoo : yes, depending on the laptops components. FC has some of the best hardware detection/drivers etc.
<6> damn, my old packages show up all over the place
<2> TuffPoo: suspend is more likely to actually work I hear.
<7> Can anyone point to a good resource to show how to automount a samba share at login?
<8> would someone point me to w32codecs? I seem to be having dif. finding FC docs on them?
<1> well i was hoping to get something easy like FC5
<2> kjm: pam_mount
<6> Cybo-Mobile: atrpms.net
<8> ty
<9> rjune, thought knemo was part of kde.. couldnt seem to find it
<7> Cybo-Mobile - a good list of todos is here : http://www.fedorafaq.org/
<6> Cybo-Mobile: download ONLY wni32codecs thoughg
<6> Cybo-Mobile: do NOT use that repo
<8> kjm ty, rjume will do
<6> zcat: it was in my kde-rh.sf.net install
<1> Cybo-Mobile: what core you using?
<0> rjune: this has the os-detection code I wanted, too.. can combine one spec that'll work in fc5 and earlier
<8> FC5
<6> xris: ok
<6> I'll have it in livna soon I hope
<7> Cybo - the repos outlined in that FAQ are kept quite up to date.
<0> rjune: cool. my only concern with that was to get it there without the atrpms dependencies or you'll end up fighting with axel for release tags
<1> Cybo-Mobile: try here it shows step by step how to get them and install them http://easylinux.info/wiki/Fedora_fc5#Fedora_Core_5_Starter_Guide
<8> TuffPoo, ty
<6> xris: I don't intend to.
<7> TuffPoo - that is a terrific wiki. Thanks for the info.
<0> rjune: intend to what?
<8> after 5 years in .deb land, FC is strange
<6> fight with axel for release tags
<1> hehe np i love that wiki
<6> xris: I'll tag it consistent with livna, and that'll be that.
<0> ahh
<6> using livna and atrpms together is a bad thing anyway
<0> that won't help much.
<10> using atrpms at ALL is a bad thing
<3> How Do I compile a customized kernel in FC5?
<0> rjune: that's my point... right now, mythtv needs atrpms packages like that XcMCW one..
<11> anyone know if the nvidia modules from livna have support for 2.6.16-1.2080_FC5xen0?
<6> well, the stuff that requires it, will go into livna
<8> wuming same you do everywhere else, I set up a /usr/src in my home and did it there.
<6> wuming: get the kernel src.rpm and rebuild that
<0> rjune: I think that's the only one left... might be some firewire packages, but I'm not entirely sure
<6> xris: it'll be ok.
<8> yumex
<8> oops wrong focus
<8> good thing that was not root p***word
<6> you wouldn't be the first to do it
<8> have done it, plus my xchat nick p***word
<0> Cybo-Mobile: use a p***phrase instead of a p***word. then you just look like an idiot when you type some nonsense sentence. :)
<8> xris, now that is a good idea!
<6> the yellow dog will fly at midnight
<8> doh!
<6> oops, wrong window
<0> Cybo-Mobile: one of my underlings did that the other day. brand new p***phrase and he typed it into #mythtv-users...
<6> LOL
<6> you have underlings?
<8> always a fun time
<0> rjune: yeah, kormoc works for me
<6> cool
<0> and another, but he doesn't hang out on irc
<9> sudo echo its cached beeyatch
<4> hmm, grep Nick /irclog |cut |brute-p***word.dict
<8> general question: I want to pursue RHCE, but Centos has many issue with this box, how compat. is FC5?
<8> btw, fc5 is not from hell, much to my suprise and rpmhell days
<8> yum is NOT as good as apt, but it is not bad.
<7> you may have better luck with FC5, as CentOS is not really to bleeding edge.
<8> impressions of fc5 are favorable.
<7> you may look into apt4rpm, but it isn't as supported as yum
<8> FC5 works very well so far, I meant how like is fc5 with RHEL for test reasons?
<0> Cybo-Mobile: fc5 has supported everything we (my company) has thrown it at so far, which can't be said of centos and fc4.
<7> Cybo - i c. It is test bed for RHEL. I think structurally it will be similar. But FC != RHEL....
<8> Yes, I had to re-compile the kernel on centos, just to get a good working desktop, even then, it refused to mount my mem stick'
<6> Cybo-Mobile: not very
<6> centos is much closer to RHEL then fedora
<6> so if you're studing for your RH cert, Centos is a better choice
<2> Cybo-Mobile: I believe it to be somewhat like the Ubuntu/Debian thing. Ubuntu's got latest, but you don't call it Debian stable.
<8> understood.
<8> it will have to work for now, I am not going to buy a dell server to get a good working centos install
<8> though I might build a box that will work
<8> after 5 years of playing with linux, I might as well get a cert in it and do it for a living
<12> how do I install a .rpm package file without rpm (rpm is broken) ?
<13> do you know how to make firefox log activity or do verbose output? I have a problem with a plugin and I'd like to examine what is going on
<11> is there any way to get the nvidia modules on 2.6.16-1.2080_FC5xen0? could I rebuild the src rpm from livna?
<14> LinuxHelp, you broke rpm?
<14> LinuxHelp, what did you do?
<12> rpm -Uvh e2fsprogs --force --force --force :P
<1> Does lkinux really need an anti virus?
<14> LinuxHelp, theres no way to install an rpm without a working rpm
<14> LinuxHelp, --force is for jedi only...
<12> heh
<8> TuffPoo, no, unless you are a mail server
<14> LinuxHelp, guess your first name isnt luke...
<7> TuffPoo - not really. BUt software for checking rootkits etc. is useful and good to have.
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