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<0> twkm, about the dns that masked the other yesterday, i suspect this is due to long time to expiry on dynamically updated zone (through dhcp3-server). how can i limit cacheing? <1> limit caching on what specifically <1> ddns-ttl dhcpd directive <1> usually half, or less than half of your dhcp lease times <0> since pages are being dynamically updated, i'd like them not to be cached on other servers <1> pages? <1> i thought you were talking about dhcp dynamic updates <0> zones, of course <1> then say that, you confused me :) <1> ddns-ttl will set the TTL (time-to-live) for the records its updating <1> and define for me 'other servers' ? <0> sorry. ttl is been correcly set, according to the leases validity term. <0> other servers are dns servers referring to this one <1> so only allow internal resolution for that zone <0> then other server will allways refer to it?
<1> well it depends, are the other NS's on your local lan <1> or external to it? <0> on the lan <1> differetn subnet to the rest of the lan, or same? <1> and whats the reasoning behind not wanting them to cache it ? <0> different subnets, different subdomains <1> well, if the servers are seperate to the workstations, you could allow-query workstation-subnet-only <0> i want server1 to forward to server2, but i don't want server1 to be able to cache the answer <1> uh. <1> then why have it there in the first place? <0> ? <1> if server one is providing any redundancy/caching for server2, then why have it there? <1> whats its use. <0> server1 is serving lan1, which is inside a machine (with uml clients). <1> sounds odd. <0> server2 is a real lan server. in case server1 has no answer, i want it to forward to server2, which has also forwarding to the internet servers <1> real lan server, as opposed to not real? <1> why not just create a nice central ns structure, for all lan subnets to use? <0> they are lans, but one is of virtual machines. <1> virtual shmirtual :) <1> you have how many zones <0> i might proceed so, but server2 should be kept very simple: one subnet, one domain <1> on what logic <0> it will become a home server for consumers <1> dns's master/slave foundation is its major forte, not using it seems to be a little backwards <1> having two local servers, each servicing a single subnet, is fair enough, but wanting to hack around and tell certain servers to cache certain zones, and not others, is a little odd <1> im sure it could be done, sounds like bind views is what you want, if not then allow-query <1> im not sur ehow you could go about telling a server it can have an answer, but it cant cache it. <1> other than setting ttl's to 5 seconds <1> I mean, if a server can get an answer, whats the difference if it caches it or not <1> if youre worried about the cached information being obsoleted by new information, the dhcp ddns-ttl option takes care of that <1> Making sure that ddns records added to the NS live a lesser amount of time than the dhcp leases themselves <1> Either way, something is missing from your logic. <0> as the server is using ddns, it is the only one to know the record status, and i would like every server to ask it, w/o remembering the answer <1> Either the reason behind what you want to do, or the implementation itself <1> like i said <1> if the main dhcp server gives out a dhcp lease, and its lease time is say 3600 (1h) <1> and the ddns record ttl is 1800 (30minutes) <1> then the ddns records in dns will not be cached when that lease is renewed <1> or expired <0> but the client disconnects after 900 seconst? <0> *seconds <1> so drop your ddns-ttls. <1> so they are only cached for 1 minute, 2 minutes, whatever <1> hell, set them to 1s. <1> what you set the TTL's is up to you, and dependant on what you want to do <0> the dhcp is automatically removing the record, disregarding ttl <1> either way, dns can exist without clients attached to them <1> says who ? <0> but i want it to resolv only clients really attached <1> good luck with that :) <0> thanks <1> then i suggest you write a script to ping every client every 5 seconds, and have it use nsupdate to remove the records for that IP, if no ping reply is found <1> :) <1> and then youre talking about overkill. <1> [10:42] <0> but i want it to resolv only clients really attached <1> tell me why you want that? <1> whats the benefit, or problem that it solves <0> ok, this is a total solution. all i need is done by dhcp already: it removes disconnected clients from bind repository <0> i mean clients that do dhcprelease <1> what happens when a client just dies?
<0> ttl expires <1> roger that. <1> how long are your lease times? <0> i don't seek an overkill, just a fairly maintained ddns environment <0> 300s <0> i think the answer is in the zone soa. where can i find it's doc? <1> well, youve got a default ttl for the zone, individual record ttl's, and the bind9 negative cache ttl. <0> what is this negative cache? <1> google it <0> thanks. sorry for upsetting you :) <1> You didnt upset me :) <0> it's sometimes hard to define what i want, and discussing with you, i see it clearer, thanks :) <1> we all go through those phases <0> right, especially on new fields <1> right :) <0> eyecue, ddns-ttl rocks! <1> indeed <1> :) <2> when i ping my domain i get "TTL expired in transit" whats wrong? <1> www.dnsreport.com <2> Reverse DNS entries for MX records failed. What can I do about it? <1> Doesnt sound related, but your mx records should have reverse record 'existant', at the very least, if not matching. <2> when I ping my domain, I also get timeout errors, and the ip showing is the wrong one <2> Also when I run the E-mail Tester on dnsreport.com It show the wrong IP for my domain <1> whats the domain <2> www.aristos.net <1> aristos.net <1> doesnt look too shabby <1> whats the ipposed to be <2> you can see aristos.net? <2> It doesn't open for me <1> in dnsreport yeh <1> whats the ip 'meant' to be for the www record ? <2> 83.168.26.144 <1> ;; ANSWER SECTION: <1> www.aristos.net. 300 IN A 83.168.27.146 <1> thats what i get <2> yes <2> thats wrong <1> whats the primary ns servers ip ? <2> 69.72.158.226 <2> or ns2.zoneedit.com <1> the primary ns says its www.aristos.net. 300 IN A 83.168.27.146 <0> helo, sounds like it has dynamic ip, and the dns has not been updated <1> so it hasto be updated there <2> but when i login to zoneedit my domain shows me the correct ip <2> in the IP addresses field <1> it hasnt updated then <2> but it's ben so many hours since my ip chaged <2> shouldnt be a matter of minutes? <0> maybe you can set a shorter ttl of the record? <2> no idea what you've just said <2> I have Edit SOA Values in zoneedit interface <2> Refresh Rate: Retry Rate: Expire Time: Time To Live: <0> time to live. eyecue, am i rught? <1> yup <1> the time for which a record will be cached by a querying client <2> time to live is currently set to 7200 <2> seconds <1> 2 hours. <0> so the next time, no server will keep the stale information too much <2> should i chnage that? <2> I never had these problems before. Each time my ip chnaged it took a few minutes, and the domain would resolve to the new I. <2> IP <0> you may have used anothe dns yourself, probably the same one as the provider <0> you can do it now, too <2> the dns for the domain has been the same for a long time now. The only thing that ever changes is the ip of the computer hosting the website, and theres a client on that pc resposible for telling zoneedit what the new ip is <2> what should i do? <0> your registrar name servers should be the zoneedit ns. this change might take 1 day, but afterwards, you will be in sync at every change <2> dude, like i said, i have been using the same dns servers for that domain, for a long time now. Nothing changes, only the IP of the host. <2> my registrar is alrealy configured with those 2 dns servers for more than a year. <1> If its been working, and it doesnt anymore, and youre adamant you have made NO configuration changes, then either zeonedit have, or you have (and you cant remember) <2> they only thing changed, is the IP, and it was changed last night.
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