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<0> that's weird. try 'dig @10.83.253.2 awmn. ns | grep NS'
<0> to see if your system knows what to do with it
<0> how many subdomains are there on this thing
<1> bedazzled@desktop ~ $ dig @10.83.253.2 awmn. ns | grep NS | grep -i beda
<1> awmn. 3600 IN NS ns0.bedazzled.ns.awmn.
<1> bedazzled@desktop ~ $ dig @10.83.253.2 awmn. ns | grep NS | wc -l
<1> 433
<0> and 10.83.253.2 is your system, right?
<1> yeap
<2> does nslookup for linux differ from nslookup for windows?
<0> a little
<0> newer linux distros have a super braindead nslookup
<2> i opened up nslookup shell on both a windows and linux box. i type 'server a.root-servers.net', then type www.microsoft.com
<2> i get two diff answers regarding the output
<0> i don't understand what's happening in that second line... there are 433 nameserver records for awmn. does the hostmaster guy do DNS much?
<0> one may not be doing recursion



<2> in the linux nslookup shell, i get this. Non-authoritative answer:*** Can't find www.msn.ca: No answer
<1> jcims: we request zones via a web interface and the hostmaster approves or rejects them :)
<2> woops
<1> jcims: recursion! that's what i'm looking :)
<0> haha, i was talking to RickyRayy
<2> jcims: do you know why the nslookup acts different?
<1> well, i mean security.awmn redirect into 10.83.253.2 ...
<0> redo this one: dig @10.83.253.2 awmn. ns | grep NS but head the first 10 liens or so, e.g dig @10.83.253.2 awmn. ns | grep NS | wc -l | head -10
<1> the apache stuff (vhosts) is irrelevant, let's fix dns first ...
<1> bedazzled@desktop ~ $ dig @10.83.253.2 awmn. ns | grep NS | head -10
<1> ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 430, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 430
<1> ;awmn. IN NS
<1> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
<1> awmn. 3600 IN NS ns0.maglavegos.ns.awmn.
<1> awmn. 3600 IN NS ns0.morpheus-2.ns.awmn.
<0> RickyRayy: all i can think is one is setup to do recursion differently
<1> awmn. 3600 IN NS ns0.nettraptor.ns.awmn.
<1> awmn. 3600 IN NS ns0.pathfinder.ns.awmn.
<1> awmn. 3600 IN NS ns0.philip-633.ns.awmn.
<1> awmn. 3600 IN NS ns0.spidercode.ns.awmn.
<1> awmn. 3600 IN NS ns0.undertaker.ns.awmn.
<0> that's cool
<1> ?
<0> i don't understand why he is doing that.
<0> every nameserver is a nameserver for the root zone too?
<0> that doesn't make sense to me
<1> jcims: nooo
<1> see
<1> zone "bedazzled.awmn." {
<1> type master;
<1> file "zones/hwn/awmn/bedazzled.awmn.";
<1> };
<0> something is going over my head then :) that's whtt i'm reading :)
<0> right
<0> that looks fine
<1> # Athens
<1> zone "awmn." {
<1> type slave;
<1> file "zones/hwn/awmn/awmn.";
<1> masters {
<1> 10.19.143.12;
<1> 10.19.143.13;
<1> 213.5.17.154;
<1> 213.5.17.164;
<0> ah! that's what i asked earlier
<1> };
<1> / forward first;
<1> forwarders { };
<0> you are authoritative for awmn
<1> / allow-transfer { any; };
<0> a secondary
<1> / notify no;
<1> };
<1> we are slaves to the root awmn. zone, if i am correct
<0> ok!!! that helps !
<1> :D
<0> i was so confused
<0> dig @10.83.253.2 security.awmn. ns | grep NS
<0> then dig @10.83.253.2 ns0.bedazzled.ns.awmn. a | grep A
<1> bedazzled@desktop ~ $ dig @10.83.253.2 security.awmn. ns | grep NS



<1> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
<1> ;security.awmn. IN NS
<0> grep security zones/hwn/awmn/awmn.
<0> (wherever that is)
<1> ok
<1> bash-3.1$ grep secur awmn.
<1> security NS ns0.bedazzled.ns
<1> bash-3.1$ grep acrob awmn.
<1> acrobase NS ns0.bedazzled.ns
<1> $ORIGIN awmn. of course... grep didn't catch it
<2> least ya found the answer :D
<1> RickyRayy: not yet :)
<0> you need the IN cl*** don't you?
<0> or is that implied?
<1> it's implied
<0> ok
<0> take a look at the named log file, maybe it says something?
<0> i dunno.
<0> you are getting a servfail response to the dig request, so it doesn't like something
<0> dmesg may cough it up
<1> dmesg doesn't say anything... bsd server
<0> no log file?
<1> w8
<1> jcims: /var/log/daemon has the bind stuff
<1> which keyword to grep now?
<0> just tail the last few lines
<0> or tail -f it and redo that dig for the ns record for security.awmn
<1> Feb 9 00:22:48 server named[19290]: lame server resolving 'security.awmn' (in 'security.awmn'?): 10.83.253.2#53
<1> Feb 9 00:30:44 server named[19290]: lame server resolving 'security.awmn' (in 'security.awmn'?): 10.83.253.2#53
<1> hah! lame? what the hell ...
<0> getting somewhere
<0> seems it doesn't think its authoritative for security.awmn.
<0> do you have that zone in your config?
<1> no
<0> lol...ok
<0> just copy the bedazzled zone stanza and fix the zone and filename references
<1> my bad :|
<0> sad it took us this long to get here...i'm a little rusty :)
<1> jcims: thanks a lot, it was so simple but i was confused :)
<0> did that do it?
<1> yeap, i've set www.security.awmn successfully
<0> sweet
<0> good exercise :)
<2> when nslookup gives an ip liek this, Address: 142.165.21.5#53
<2> what does that #53 mean?
<0> that's the port
<3> anyone have details (packet rate) on the root dns attack?
<4> is there a way to flush a caching DNS server or to check where it puuls it's records for a certain host?
<5> yes.
<2> is it better to use the version of bind from portage or to get the latest version from the ics website?
<5> yes.
<6> laf
<6> :]
<6> RickyRayy depends if you prefer to build from source or take advantage or your port/package management system
<2> ahh
<2> any new features that are must have after version 9.3.2-r4 ?
<2> thats the version that portage shows (gentoo's package system). i see a nwer 9.3.4 on the ics site
<5> yet you didn't read the release notes?
<5> sounds like you should stick with portage.
<2> ok, i admit i didn't go to the site and download 9.3.4 nor did i check the site for a copy of the release notes
<5> hence you are lazy, so stick with portage and let someone else do the thinking.
<2> i already have bind from portage installed
<2> i guess i'll start here, http://gentoo-wiki.com/BIND
<2> then probably undo everything and install the other from the ics website so i understand how both installations work
<2> aparently theres a problem with portage bind. (bind v.s. named naming issue). although it's solved by creating a little more than a few sym links
<7> i'm getting "No suitable nodes are available to serve your request." when i hit the bbc match live updats page, must be popular at the moment ?
<5> if that's what the application means by that, sure.
<7> okay :P
<8> Can somebody please check for who is the SOA fot 81.5.135.180 . Just to re***ure me that I'm not going crazy
<8> s/fot/for
<8> 180.135.5.81.in-addr.arpa
<5> trkhosting is not setup correctly, but otherwise the soa is: ns1.trhosking.com. trhosking.gmail.com. 2007020801 43200 3600 1209600 3600
<8> Right, but what about the reverse delegation?
<5> that is it.


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