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<0> megaTherion: from the logs i can't figure out why it doesn't start , if i start it non-chroot is works <1> linnewbye: most probably a path problem <0> megaTherion: so why doesn't it says something in the logs <0> the path is ok <0> in /chroot/named is etc/named.conf <0> megaTherion: http://rafb.net/p/txyzgt33.html <1> linnewbye: cant you check logs? ;) <1> linnewbye: maybe you used wrong path in named.conf <0> megaTherion: i've pasted earlyer what logs say <0> teFeb 8 16:46:38 ns named[14421]: starting BIND 9.3.2-P1 -t /chroot/named -c /etc/named.conf <0> Feb 8 14:46:38 ns named[14421]: found 1 CPU, using 1 worker thread <0> Feb 8 14:46:38 ns named[14421]: loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf' <0> root@ns:/var/log# <0> this is what syslog says <1> linnewbye: and whats the problem, it doesnt start?
<0> yes <1> linnewbye: rdnc doesnt work <1> ? <0> oot@ns:/chroot/named/etc# rndc reload <0> rndc: connect failed: connection refused <0> which seems perfectly normal since named it's not running <1> sure <1> no clue then <1> its a configuration problem <1> sure <0> megaTherion: any ideea how can i make more verbose logs so i can troubleshoot this ? <1> linnewbye: uhm there are some logging { } stuff in named.conf you better check the manualk <1> -k <2> Hi all! <2> I've got a customer whose WHOIS record has the correct nameservers, but the root nameservers don't have any SOA record for the domain. <2> What gives? <2> whois nancykoerbel.com. works, but dig nancykoerbel.com. soa returns NXDOMAIN <2> how can this be? Did the registrar fsckup? <1> alephant: then the auth. nservers obviously dont provide any zone record <2> uh... I thought it worked differently :-) <2> I thought that the registrar created the SOA based on the webform, and p***ed it to the root nameservers <2> sorry, dropped a piece of info from my "dig" <2> the dig was actually @a.gtld-servers.net. <2> am I wrong in my understanding of how the SOA works? <1> alephant: the SOA record is in the zone file which belongs to the authorative nameservers <2> I thought that recursive resolution asked the roots for SOA .com., then asks the .com. auth for SOA foo.com., then asks the foo.com. auth for www.foo.com. <2> so how does the .com. auth know who's auth for foo.com. if not from an SOA? <1> alephant: the .com contains the NS records for foo.com and asks them <2> really! <2> so .com auth ns doesn't have SOA records for subdomains, it asks the auth NS directly!? <2> learn something new every day <2> now that doesn't explain WHY (or really, HOW, or WHOBROKEIT) our nameservers don't have SOA for this domain :-b <1> alephant: I told ya already, please dont ask the same question twic, I said: the auth. nservers dont have no zone file for the domain <2> uh, asking the same question twice != restating a surprising fact to ensure understanding <2> "P*** the peas." "I didn't make peas." "I thought you said you'd make peas! They're my favorite!" <3> anyone have details (packet rate) on the root dns attack? <4> can i get a ip for a good working dns server? starbucks in kairo ****s... <5> run one yourself <4> well i dont have time now. <6> hi <6> i have registered a domain, let's say foo.com, my nameserver is ns.hesperia.com. how can i make my nameserver resolve foo.com into my ip? <1> @ IN A x.x.x.x <6> @ ? <6> megaTherion: care to explain a bit..? :-) thanks <7> in bind 9, how are views handled with slaves...does the slave just get the view that it matches or do you specify it somehow? <1> hesperia: @ means the $ORIGIN you are in (the zone) <6> megaTherion: ok, my zone is hesperia.com. how does the above help resolve foo.com ? (not my zone) <1> hesperia: it doesnt you cannot manipulate forgein zones except you have access to the zonefile <8> If i haver reverse delegation for a C subnet: like /27, does the SOA server need to be one of the delegated dns servers? <1> hesperia: maybe you are in the wrong channel <1> xai: no <1> xai: that has nothing to do with DNS <6> megaTherion: i want to host foo.com <1> hesperia: then get foo.com <6> which one is the appropriate channel ? <8> Ok, good.. The dns servers that the delegation points to are not responding though.. oh boy.. <1> hesperia: that depends till now you told me you want to access foo.com but you dont own foo.com <7> anybody here know how views work with slaves? <7> i'm probably over thinking it, but do i have to specify which view i want to replicate to the slave? <7> or does it just pick the view based on the match-clients <8> jcims: Should be per zone probably..
<8> Im not sure if you can slave a view though.. <7> hmmm. <7> that would be unfortunate <7> ok...guess i'll have to play a bit <7> thanks! <8> But I know little about views so wait a sec. <6> <6> actually i am a member of a wireless community <6> <6> we have the awmn. root zone <6> <6> my zone is bedazzled.awmn <6> <6> my nameserver is ns.bedazzled.awmn <6> <6> i have registered security.awmn and acrobase.awmn <6> <6> bash-3.1$ grep security awmn. <6> <6> security NS ns0.bedazzled.ns <8> http://www.knowplace.org/pages/howtos/split_view_with_bind_9_howto.php <6> <6> bash-3.1$ grep acrobase awmn. <6> <6> acrobase NS ns0.bedazzled.ns <6> <6> see what i mean? :) <6> now, HOW can i make security.awmn and acrobase.awmn resolve into ns.bedazzled.awmn ?! <7> xai: i got inspired to google it again..funny how 'bind view slave' points right at the bind faq: How can I make a server a slave for both an internal and an external view at the same time? <7> lol.. <7> thanks <8> nice work.. share your findings. <8> oh, you did :) <6> anyone ? <7> hesperia: is that file you're grepping the awmn root zone file? <6> jcims: yeap <7> so what does 'dig @that.server security.awmn ns' return? <7> ns0.bedazzled.ns? <6> ns0.bedazzled.ns.awmn. is the FQDN <6> or ns.bedazzled.awmn. <7> which? <7> both? <6> yeap <7> who owns ns.awmn. ? <6> the hostmaster <6> what do i put in "that.server" ? <7> the awmn. root server <7> i'm no guru :) just thinking it through with you :) <6> bash-3.1$ dig @www.awmn security.awmn ns <6> ; <<>> DiG 9.3.2-P1 <<>> @www.awmn security.awmn ns <6> ; (1 server found) <6> ;; global options: printcmd <6> ;; Got answer: <6> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 34132 <6> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 <6> ;; QUESTION SECTION: <6> ;security.awmn. IN NS <6> ;; Query time: 36 msec <6> ;; SERVER: 10.19.143.13#53(10.19.143.13) <6> ;; WHEN: Thu Feb 8 23:30:44 2007 <6> ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 31 <7> so you have security.awmn ns -> ns0.bedazzled.ns.awmn. is ns.bedazzled.awmn a cname for ns0? <7> looks broken <7> wonder why there is no server in there... <7> are you sure ns0.bedazzled.ns.awmn. has an A record? <6> bash-3.1$ nslookup ns.bedazzled.awmn <6> Server: 127.0.0.1 <6> Address: 127.0.0.1#53 <6> ns.bedazzled.awmn canonical name = server.bedazzled.awmn. <6> Name: server.bedazzled.awmn <6> Address: 10.83.253.2 <6> bash-3.1$ nslookup ns0.bedazzled.ns.awmn <6> ;; Truncated, retrying in TCP mode. <6> Server: 127.0.0.1 <6> Address: 127.0.0.1#53 <6> Name: ns0.bedazzled.ns.awmn <6> Address: 10.83.253.2 <7> ok...there's nothing linking ns.bedazzled.awmn to ns0.bedazzled.ns.awmn, right? <7> i think that's where its broken <6> why broken? it's the same IP address :| <7> this is where my recursion knowledge fails me. client goes to root for the ns record, gets ns0.... <7> brb <6> see this one also, from the bedazzled.awmn. zone <6> @ SOA ns0.bedazzled.ns.awmn. hostmaster.bedazzled.awmn. (
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