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<0> Hi all
<0> Im trying to determine something dns related
<0> when I type dnsdomainname -i on my one web server it returns the IP address that the FQDN resolves to (that server works), on another machine that is basically configured the same, results of dnsdomainname -i return only 127.0.0.1
<0> Im having some odd problems
<0> anyone here can help me figure out some dsn issues /linux
<0> *dns
<1> TheBonsai_: ping
<2> howdy. i'm trying to get ddns going with dhcpd/bind
<2> upgraded to latest stable versions
<2> my zone files appear to be functional (i get forward/reverse lookups fine, caching also works)
<2> i just can't seem to get dhcpd to cooperate
<2> i don't get any debug messages out of it either
<2> it'll hand out IPs all day long.. just not update to the DNS server
<2> using a hmac-md5 key
<2> http://pastebin.ca/81106
<3> Tefad: i don't tend to do that, but the only thing that mismatches the examples is that in the dhcpd the zone names should end with a period.



<2> i've tried that too : \
<3> did you create the log files?
<3> to get debugging you need to tell named to start emitting it, with ''rndc trace 3''.
<2> eh named spit a few things out one time
<2> i got close
<2> but hosed it immediately : (
<2> OK WTF. my wife's laptop gets a DNS entry
<2> forward and backward
<3> and some other system does not?
<2> yes.
<3> does it get a reverse?
<2> forward/reverse
<3> does the one that fails to work well at least get a reverse entry?
<2> i am quite confused
<2> no.
<2> that laptop also runs linux
<2> but i don't know how its dhclient is configured
<2> i'm trying to ***ign the hostnames in dhcpd.conf
<3> try: ignore client-updates;
<2> right
<2> i usually have that, but removed it for entrophy : )
<2> i think somehow it needs a kick in the pants to update provided hostnames
<3> it only tries a little.
<2> well the laptop doesn't have access to the nameserver's zones
<2> and i don't have sshd running on it
<3> In addition to these differences, the server also does not update very
<3> aggressively.
<2> ah yes, i had some optimize setting disabled at one point
<2> update-optimization false;
<3> oh, and don't expect dns updates for sackbut.
<2> because of the fixed address?
<3> yes.
<3> ahh, there's an option to allow it to be updated too, which defaults to off.
<2> joy
<3> update-static-leases on;
<2> neato
<3> then again, it is recommended off and after all sackbut's dns entries should be fixed in the dns data.
<2> right.
<2> mainly, i'm seeing what i can do
<2> but i don't think it's updating based on the use-host-decl-names
<4> oh
<4> hello :)
<4> sorry
<4> please tell me ip of dns server i can use for resolv.conf :(
<4> ;((
<2> the one your ISP uses?
<4> Tefad i didn't ask them about ip :(
<4> they say "add _authomatic_" string or something else
<2> now might be a good time?
<4> Tefad time to ask?
<4> Tefad i can connect here because i have goethe.freenode in hosts
<2> do you need ip6?
<4> Tefad no, i don't need ipv6
<4> Tefad i use ipv6 for irc mostly
<2> what's your ISP's dns?
<2> (their domain name)
<4> oh
<4> beeline.ru
<4> ;(
<4> i can't check CVS for updates because it doesn't use /etc/hosts file :(
<3> if your isp uses dhcp then you might consider letting your dhcp client update your resolv.conf.



<4> twkm i'm via gprs here :)
<3> *shrug*
<4> :(
<2> 217.118.84.9 ns1.beeline.ru
<2> enjoy.
<4> Tefad thank you :)
<2> 217.118.66.243 ns1.beelinegprs.ru
<2> i find it handy to memorize at least one DNS server IP
<4> Tefad it works :) i added to resolv.conf :)
<2> congrats.
<2> now how do i make these goofy things dns properly
<3> which goofy things?
<2> my hosts
<3> the usual way, provide nameserver addresses in the dhcp response.
<2> realize i've only had a primer in bind a year ago, plus RTFM for two days
<2> and dhcp only the rtfm aside from setting a dynamic range and router infos.
<2> dhcp response where, client side? server side?
<3> fyi, if this is all you really need i suggest dnsmasq instead of isc bind+dhcpd.
<2> this may be expanded to several hundred computers at some point
<3> dnsmasq can handle it. but anyway, see ''man dhcp-options''.
<3> if your hosts ignore the options provided there is nothing (else) you can do, than to change the hosts in some way.
<2> does use-host-decl-names on; not do what i intend?
<3> It should be noted here that most DHCP clients completely ignore the
<3> host-name option sent by the DHCP server, and there is no way to
<3> configure them not to do this.
<2> correct
<2> that is not my intention
<2> i want the dhcpd to update the DNS record.. not set the hostname of the box
<3> well, my esp is having a vacation.
<2> i have read that part of the man page
<2> remember.. two days now..
<3> focus.
<3> perhaps sniff the traffic.
<2> do i need to manually ddns-hostname per host?
<3> did you enable debugging on the nameserver, what does it indicate?
<3> not usually, but it is there in case you want to force what will be used with ddns.
<3> in which case it usually needs to be provided per host.
<3> but if you want an algorithmic value based on the request data you can use an eval -- see ''man dhcp-eval''.
<4> cu
<2> thanks
<2> ddns-hostname = config-option server.host-name ... look good?
<2> hmm ddns-hostname = host-decl-name
<2> HUZZAH
<2> dhcpd and bind are extremely flexible
<2> and for somereason i missed the name of the dhcp-eval man page
<2> i found dhcp-options however
<3> the see also section of each of those pages should mention the others. see also is usually a very part of the man page.
<2> right, i just overlooked -eval
<2> dhcpd has no interface to dynamically add and remove hosts, right?
<2> OMAPI?
<2> dhcpctl.. ok
<2> looks like i'll just be writing scripts to pump out a dhcpd.conf and then restart dhcpd.
<3> sounds horrible.
<3> why not use omshell instead?
<2> oh?
<2> oh neat
<2> ok looks like i have yet another weekend project ahead of me.. last week's was getting my wife's laptop functional. 366MHz p2 with 4GB disk. i managed to get gentoo on it and ability to play DVDs, play java and flash games.. and the hardest part.. a non-linux-supported wifi card. ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant.
<5> hi
<5> Hi folks,
<5> Can BIND resolve domain name www.garden.org into 10.2.5.1 for local users
<5> and for external users resolve as a 211.24.11.10 ?
<5> I think i can do that with view statement but i dont know how....
<3> two zone data files, one for each view.
<5> view ?
<5> i am noob sorry
<5> can u explain me
<3> two view blocks, each matches the source address of the queries received and each has a different data file for the zone.
<3> 6.2.21 of the arm.
<5> so i must read about view statment :) view block i write in zone file of domain?
<3> no.
<3> view block in nameserver config you write.
<5> naemd.conf
<3> yes.
<5> aham so i create for example


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