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<0> just because it's not new doesn't mean it doesn't work
<1> just cause its old doesnt mean it doesnt work
<1> exactly
<2> well in debian site they asking to do and upgrade to woody
<1> lol
<3> zinx: can i pm you the Error messages?
<4> itguy: sarge is the current stable release
<4> itguy: woody is no longer maintained
<1> I still see people using basic programs where I used to work...
<0> right, no more bugs fixed in woody
<5> Valehru: Well, actually, that IS pretty much what it means.
<1> and it still does the job for them..
<5> Valehru: woody is old, and there's no guarantee whatsoever that it will work.
<4> itguy: or at least, i think it's no longer maintained.. those security.debian.org nutters may be nuttier than i think, though
<5> Valehru: Uh, qbasic is still supported.
<1> I wasnt talking about woody
<1> I was talking about software in general
<5> Valehru: And there are other basic vendors.
<0> gawd, basic?? they're torturing themselves...
<4> prudhvi: if it's < 10 lines (really, it should be 1)
<2> like when i check on my sources.list i have sarge
<1> ya..
<6> zinx: they are
<1> lol
<4> prudhvi: But i won't make you figure out which one it is :D
<1> haha
<5> ecdemo: Heh, not really. BASIC had a niche in instrument control etc
<1> it still does
<0> itguy: cat /etc/debian_version
<1> very logical language
<0> so does forth, and the latter is MUCH more effective
<1> but then again so are most languages
<5> ecdemo: Forth, not so much.
<1> lol
<0> embedded systems
<5> ecdemo: Forth was popular for embedded use.
<1> ya
<3> zinx: no probs, here i go
<0> like boot roms
<1> so was/is vhdl
<5> ecdemo: Instrument control is a weird field. The current major players are VB, Labview, and weird proprietary ****. Go f'in figure.
<2> so i should be in a good shape if i apt-get update
<1> vb for instrument control
<1> ?
<1> go figure...lol
<0> yeah, that's kinda weird
<1> very
<2> ecdemo: my version is the 3.1
<1> propriety ****...ya true
<7> Guys, i love you :-) going to sleep and dream about you're all here :-)
<1> l8r
<0> wndrfl
<0> what an image I have now...
<8> I don't really understand the write mask option. Let's say I set the write mask to home directories to '0755', does that mean when I create a new file or directory that's what it will be chmod'd to by default?
<1> I should be in work...but Im sick...so im going to play with linux instead..
<1> :)
<8> For samba configuration
<0> itguy: that's sarge
<9> Hi, I have come from a windows background where I used Ztreewin as my interface to the system , and am still struggling a lot on debian after more than a year.
<2> ecdemo: cool
<10> guys. i've installed alsa and esound, both working. i just can't see them at gnome multimedia system selector. anybody here could help me? i've already asked at gnome channel but got no response, maybe someone here using gnome could help me?!
<11> wsjunior: Hmmm gstreamer-<something>
<11> you want to specify the default source/sync and make sure you have the alsa libs too
<11> I am not sure if you need esd anymore if you are using alsa, Mine at leasts seems to allow multiple apps to be writing to the pcm and they get mixed. Not certain on the specifics though
<0> can gnome or kde or x in general (if applicable) use jack as audio connectors
<2> ecdemo: since i have a lot to read , any sugestion on a software that i can run in windows to read for me
<0> get you a copy of eyeq
<9> I get bogged down trying to do routine tasks such as renaming files. I have never found anything with Ztreewins functionality or user freindliness. What should be a minutes work ends up taking days or not getting done at all.
<10> kerneld, gstreamer0.8-esd ? already installed :/
<0> learn to sped rid
<11> wsjunior: Try gstreamer0.8-alsa ? and dispense with esd?
<0> then see if there's an oreilly book called using samba
<11> wsjunior: Also, your user is in the audio group right? Tyrp: groups
<2> ecdemo: what is that ?
<12> can I run ssh server without touching the router (for port forwarding) ?
<1> floundering: could you not just come up with a script to rename files?
<0> buy it and see :)
<10> kerneld, esound is working. i can listen sound files with xmms using esd but i just can't see it at gnome multimedia system selector :(
<2> learn to speed rid ????
<1> rid = read i presume
<1> he was speed writing
<0> it seems to work :)
<10> kerneld, yes, i am in audio group
<1> he wz spd wrtng
<11> Whats gstreamer-properties show you?
<13> hey debian uses binaries with apt-get right?
<10> kerneld, an error window with one message saying that the register isn't present or it's corrupted. lol.
<11> grapefruit: Yep, unless you use: apt-get source and have deb-src entries in your sources.list
<13> hmm
<13> i wanna switch to debian from gentoo but i dunno =P
<11> wsjunior: Heh. Try killall esd, then aoss play somewav.wav
<0> yes, binaries w/apt-get.
<0> but apt-get can also get sources
<11> then in another window while still plaing, try play a different file, see if they mix, if thats all good, forget about esd
<0> as far as whether you should switch to debian, that's all you :P
<13> (that's the part where you give me reasons to switch) =)
<0> nononononoNO
<0> it's NOT
<0> !why debian
<14> http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/articles/imoore2.html or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/
<13> =)
<11> grapefruit: If there is some app you want to change hows its compiled, its not tooo much of a pain. apt-get source, look in the debian/rules, then dpkg-buildpackage and a few bits in between
<0> you decide for debian if you wanna.
<0> awl ay kin sey as ay leik at
<13> im sick of having to compile everything
<0> welp, then you still have a wide range of choices
<0> one thing I can say about debian, is the tool chain is very stable most of the time
<10> kerneld, odd. dpkg -l | grep gstreamer shows gstreamer0.8 and 0.10 installed. is it normal?
<11> wsjunior: Tou might want to isntall deborphan the purge some old stuff
<11> try apt-get remove gstreamer0.8
<11> or does it show state as rc ?
<10> i'll try
<11> wsjunior: Did the alsa test work?
<11> If you have apps that misbehave, eg, they want oss interface, aoss works fine.
<10> kerneld, yes!
<10> kerneld, but still can't see alsa there.
<10> kerneld, when i ask to remove gstreamer0.8 it says that will remove gstreamer0.10 too..
<10> kerneld, and a lot of related packages.. damn :(
<11> odd
<10> kerneld, is there any way to remove just 0.8?
<11> sed/etch/sarge ?
<11> err sid
<10> etch
<10> testing
<11> I have 0.8 and 0.10 too
<10> i've selected a testing rep and made a dist-upgrade.. is it wrong?
<8> wsjunior, use pastebin.com to show us your /etc/apt/sources.list
<15> hello
<10> erudified, ok
<8> what's up Tripnotik
<11> wsjunior: http://rafb.net/paste/results/7u54Jf76.txt
<10> erudified, http://pastebin.com/630261
<15> erudified, well, I'm installing a woody using debootstrap on a Xen enabled FC5
<15> erudified, so far everything seems fine
<16> You have never had a woody, ADMIT IT
<8> wsjunior I have to confess that I'm not on a debian box atm
<10> kerneld, gstreamer-properties tells me to run gst-register but i get command not found..
<11> Okay, just a sec
<10> k
<11> libgstreamer0.8-0: /usr/bin/gst-register-0.8
<8> try 'deb ftp://ftp.br.debian.org debian/ testing main' - did you just do cat /etc/apt/sources.list | sed 's/stable/testing/' > /etc/apt/sources.list (I.E. did those lines work before?)
<11> gnome-media etc on my box is depending on gstreamer0.8 stuff not 0.10 stuff
<11> haven't synce in a week or so
<10> erudified, ya i just did sed -i s/stable/testing/g
<10> erudified, why?
<11> Tripnotik: I had a bo hamm woody sarge etch
<15> kerneld, ???
<11> I am sure I missed some
<10> erudified, ?
<11> Oop, meant to be Langly
<17> hi, how can i change a users group?
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