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<0> Denyerec: do you know what GNOME is?
<1> Denyerec: it's called swat
<2> Yes
<2> Gnome's a desktop env.
<0> Denyerec: really what is it?
<2> Full of little GUI's for tools
<3> !tell Denyerec abotu swat
<0> Denyerec: no its an acronym
<3> !tell Denyerec about swat
<1> nvz: it isn't really used as an acronym these days anymore
<4> Denyerec: In theory, you can just right click on things and hit "share folder"
<5> where can i change the background, font and coursor color of my console?
<6> haha
<7> hm is there really nobody who can help me out with that vhost issue...
<4> nvz: Given that GNOME no longer has the N, O, or M I don't think it's really worth using it as an acronym. :P
<6> Brox: why the hell?
<0> azeem: yeah well if he means a client interface not a configuration one, gnome's nautilus has it covered its right in front of his face
<2> I've seen SWAT before, but in Fedora there was simply an entry on the applications menu for SAMBA config
<0> pipeline: heh, ok whatever :P
<1> pipeline: it's questionable whether the G still holds as well
<2> And, foolishly, figured that there might be an analogous entry on the Debian apps menu.
<1> the E is still accurate, though
<6> Denyerec: have you installed swat yet?
<4> azeem: How so? Everything is still licensed under GNU licenses. The "E" is on much shakier ground :P
<2> I did on Fedora a while back.
<2> But as I said just there.
<1> pipeline: Linux is also licensed under GNU license. Doesn't make it a GNU project
<2> In Fedora there was a *dead simple* GUI for handling Samba's config
<6> Denyerec: so install it in debian
<4> azeem: *shrug*
<1> a GNU project is a technical term, and GNOME was started as one
<1> doesn't have much relationship with the GNU project these days anymore, though
<2> A web based admin would imply I have a web server, wouldn't it ?
<4> azeem: lots of affiliated projects don't
<6> !find shares-admin sarge
<2> This thing in Fedora was a damn simple, straight to the point little GUI frontend for configuring Samba and adding users, etc
<2> It was not SWAT.
<0> azeem: well, we cant just call it E thats taken already
<6> Denyerec: try running 'shares-admin'
<2> val, shall try.
<1> nvz: That's why we call it GNOME
<6> !find shares-admin sarge
<6> !find shares-admin sid
<8> Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'shares-admin' returned no results.
<2> NO such thing :
<2> :/
<6> Denyerec: thought so, its not in sarge, you can still use swat though
<2> So I have to install and configure Apache 1st.
<2> ?
<6> Denyerec: you just have to run 'apt-get install swat'
<9> anyone here use tvtime?
<10> !info kdenetwork-filesharing
<8> kdenetwork-filesharing: (network filesharing configuration module for KDE), section net, is optional. Version: 4:3.5.0-3 (sid), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 1998 kB
<9> Checking 51.50 MHz:^X - No signal
<9> thats all it does
<1> gnome-system-tools: /usr/bin/shares-admin
<9> does not find any channel
<1> that's from Ubuntu breezy though
<2> I'm boggled by the fact that there's so little sysconfig stuff in Gnome+Debian
<2> I installed gnome-system-tools
<2> it did.... *almost* nothing
<6> azeem: its in sid too, probably even in etch, just not in sarge
<2> I can now edit the clock and users.
<11> maybe that's because Debian does *not* use sysconfig ...
<1> right
<9> cna I go from sarge to etch?
<1> aethera_: yes, but not back
<9> ah
<2> You can move straight from sarge to sid, right ?
<9> good
<1> aethera_: so think twice
<12> Denyerec: not really
<6> Denyerec: the preferred and supported way in debian is to edit the config files for most things
<0> aethera_: or think about reinstalling cause thats the way you go back
<12> Denyerec: it's possible, but you have to be a ninja
<9> is etch bad?
<12> aethera_: define bad
<1> aethera_: it is less stable than stable, obviously
<0> aethera_: could be bad how? when? now? how about now? where? here? or there?
<2> Guerin - I'm sure I read somewhere that to update to it you had to swap your repos over and update ?
<13> aethera_ : and less unstable than unstable
<9> so its not really worth it
<2> someone pointed me to a thing starting with K yesterday
<12> Denyerec: that's true. But the reality is sometimes a bit more tricky.
<14> Hi guys
<2> Well I know for a fact I can't configure things by hand. I can just about do Apache.
<9> hmmm
<2> Everything else I've tried I've broken, badly.
<9> anyone here have tv tuners?
<0> Denyerec: kcontrol though we just went over how thats not in sarge the konfiguration for samba
<2> nvz no, it was some distro based on Sid.
<6> !anyone
<8> Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>
<12> !anyone use tv tuners?
<8> No, no one uses tv tuners, not even the people who use it.
<9> eish
<4> Denyerec: There are lots of those.
<0> !based on debian
<8> Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll maybe get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro.
<9> ok does anyone here use tv time because it scans for channels but says no signal
<12> !anyone use tv time
<8> No, no one uses tv time, not even the people who use it.
<9> Guerin: shut up
<9> please
<6> !tell aethera_ -about smart questions
<12> aethera_: no, I won't. Ask the ****ing question you want answered.
<12> aethera_: if you really want to know who uses $someprogram, you're in the wrong channel
<9> Guerin: I have I am asking if anyone used it before and got the same errors
<15> .oO( anyone use debian? )
<16> aethera_: /msg dpkg bts
<0> damn, beat me to the bts button
<12> aethera_: you need to be specific about the errors.
<9> Guerin: I have!!!1
<9> Checking 44.75 MHz: - No signal
<9> It always says no signal
<9> no matter what
<12> aethera_: I'd say you have no signal.
<9> Guerin: **** off
<0> heh
<2> Kanotix!
<6> aethera_: so your cable is not connected properly or you have no signal on that cable that is connected properly
<2> You might wanna add Kanotix to that list.
<11> quality
<0> Guerin: why do people reject intelligent answers to stupid questions?
<12> aethera_: look, you dumb bastard, I'm trying to help you hone your question so someone might actually ****ing help you. As it stands currently, you're going to get ignored.
<12> ah well
<17> I'm buying a new computer (for development - java and as a low traffic server), I'm currently torn between two systems that are identical except one has a AMD Semptron 2800+ 64Bit and the other has a P4 505 533MHz for $100 more... will the 64Bit give me any trouble with Debian (or other linux apps) and which system would you guys recommend?
<12> aethera_: look, you dumb bastard, I'm trying to help you hone your question so someone might actually ****ing help you. As it stands currently, you're going to get ignored.
<12> there we go again
<1> Guerin: abye you overlooked his question?
<1> maybe even
<18> JohnCC, Semptron!
<11> JohnCC: there's Debian for AMD64, but not all the software works on it yet, you can easily use it as 32bit though
<12> azeem: no.
<19> dselect: the access method area is already locked how can unlock it?
<1> Guerin: if you don't want to help people, just /ignore them please, don't try to belittle them
<20> azeem: <12> aethera_: I'd say you have no signal.
<20> <9> Guerin: **** off
<17> jm_: ok, that's good... so if you have a 64Bit processor, it'll always run in 32bit for any app?
<18> JohnCC, actually the ummm K7? lol I forgot the name of the new AMD 64bit chip :P the one thats not the sempron
<12> azeem: please read what I wrote above.
<1> 15:14 < Guerin> aethera_: look, you dumb bastard,
<11> JohnCC: if you run a 32bit distribution yes
<12> streuner: THAT was sarcasm on my part.
<18> JohnCC, 64XP or FS or something
<12> but the point remains, by asking "Who uses $foo", he's going to get *nothing* in here.
<6> Semprons arent 64 bit afaik
<11> new ones are
<20> hm
<6> all they do is fit in a socket that takes 64 bit cpus
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