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<0> Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff
<1> drp2: might help to install apt-listbugs to help you avoid installing packages with known issues
<2> !popcorn
<3> nvz: I know what it is but have never used it
<4> are there any msn clients that can support video ?
<1> drp2: may also want bugbuddy or reportbug to help you filing bugs, and maybe busybox-static and other things you may need to use as a life perserver in the future
<2> jamez77: Not yet, as far as I know. gaim is working on it, but it won't be out for a while
<5> hi
<3> nvz: I'm getting pretty slow speeds from that server
<5> i get E: Broken packages when i do an apt-get install libpostgis1-pg74
<1> drp2: you could try another. or install apt-spy to find you a good mirror
<5> why?
<3> nvz: but i've already started teh dist-upgrade
<4> Dwonis, amazing that no IM client has support for video
<1> drp2: stopping now and getting a faster one would be easier than waiting for a slow one :P
<6> jamez77, I wonder when one will have support hehe
<1> drp2: I am not getting great speeds from kernel.org for my mirror, but I think its just my network, cause irc has been lagging too
<2> jamez77: It's not really surprising. Video is somewhat complicated, very patented, and Microsoft doesn't have a habit of releasing useful protocol information.
<7> can anyone recommend a window manager for a p1 133, with 96mb ram?
<8> anyone know what version of openoffice is in sarge?
<1> prodope_: what are you looking for out of your graphical experience?
<4> Dwonis, i thought there was one clinet that was able to do videos over msn
<4> but i forgot the name of it
<5> can anyone help me with this?? i get E: Broken packages when i do an apt-get install libpostgis1-pg74
<9> nvz: never used any... always been on console
<9> nvz: decided it was time to try :)
<2> jamez77: Well let's see, there's gaim, kopete, kmess... I don't know much else
<1> prodope: whats important to you? configuration? keyboard control? user-defined commands? icons on the root window? a filemanager? task list?
<1> prodope: are you used to console?
<9> nvz: it's all i'm comfortable with, really
<2> jamez77: If you find out, I'd like to know :)
<4> i know it was quite big
<1> prodope: try ion3
<1> prodope: its like console for X
<1> prodope: really keyboard friendly for people who dont like that mouse
<9> nvz: cool... i'll check it out
<1> prodope: you may have to configure it to your liking, but its a tabbed based keyboard-driven wm
<9> nvz: sounds good
<10> hi guys, could you tell me where the contents of the debian menu are kept please?
<1> prodope: makes it feel like console, while giving you the ability to run X clients
<2> dood: /usr/lib/menu, IIRC
<10> cheers
<1> dood: menu package, updates that automatically when installed
<10> yeah i've got an app that installed itself but had no uninstall
<10> so i need to take them out myself
<1> dood: I would read the documentation on that before messing with anything. there are menu methods for each meno that is updated each time you install something
<2> wtf: "striptease.pl: Strip down the Pth source tree to its minimum"
<1> dood: so any modifications to the menus without doing it properly will be overwritten by update-menus next time you install somehting or run it
<10> oh right, i get you
<1> the only menus it wont touch are those stored locally in users home dirs
<10> so do i use the menu command to purge entries?
<1> you can optionally use your own menus overriding the menu package. Its advised that you "include" the system menus generated by menu into your menu.. getting the best of both worlds, your own menu you can customize and change at will, and a automagic generated one as well
<1> there is no menu command that I know of, just a menu package
<1> and I dont offhand know how to use it properly.. thats why I recommend reading the documentation
<10> you see, i just need to delete an entry from the menu but i'm having no luck finding out how
<10> =(
<1> in /usr/share/menu/
<1> er /usr/share/doc/menu/
<10> from what i understand from the docs, files in /usr/lib/menu are p***ed to install-menu
<1> dood: maybe man 5 menufile, will help understand how the system works?
<1> dood: sounds about right.. I think you cannot remove entries, only modify the menufile and then reinstall the menufile
<11> I need a few recommendations on how to transfer cellphone pictures to pc using bluetooth with whatever debian provides
<12> what's /etc/adjtime good for, i can't find a manual page for it
<1> dood: from my understanding each menu-method generates a different menu for a different program, but there is like a master menu file somewhere.. though like I said, I dont think you can just edit it manually.
<1> dood: usually you are supposed to make your own menu to override the system ones, in your home, and if there is a problem with the system menu you file a bug agains the package that messed up the menu
<1> it can also be used as a usb SD Drive :P
<10> right, i got that sorted. thanks for the direction nvz, peace
<13> whats a good debian based distro with x11 that would run on a 266 PII laptop 64 megs ram
<1> umm, dont forget to file a bug..
<1> something tells me he wont file a bug
<14> dingus9, debian.
<15> dingus9, damn small linux
<11> debian has laptop-detect or something. That might come in handy together with xresprobe it provides to get your graphics up and going.
<1> for a minute there I thought I had no way to test these batteries I had laying around.. but this mp3 player is useful for something I already determined one is dead, one is near full, one is more than half full.. would be nice to know where my multimeter is so I could get a accurate reading
<13> i tried damn dsl but I keep getting a kernel panic right after cpu detection. however it will (slowly) run knoppix 4
<1> there is barely even a load generated by this mp3 player.. using it as a battery tester could be highly innacurate
<14> nvz, that's hy you have 1 good multimeter, and 5 cheap ones so you can have one in your car, one at work, one in your computer room, on in the kitchen... etc etc
<15> some distros don't like pII
<13> ahh
<11> most boxes run knoppix4, you just don't realize that they do
<1> sep: I want to get one of them good ones like mechanics use.. big rubberized case, long wires.. digital display.
<13> I can get around it by booting failsafe but then it doesn't load needed hdd modules
<13> could it be the 2.4 kernel?
<15> dingus9, i'd run woody
<16> I send report bugs, In the 'debian-reference-en' section 3.1.6 there are noted to run 'pager /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian', i have not this but well '/usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian.gz'. Is a binairy file, so some troubles to view it with less. Can someone help me, so i can report it ?
<14> i see from the logs that postfix bounces some mail, but postmaster dont seam to get a copy from just this bounce how can i figure out the reason for the bounces ?
<16> I look for a other thing than 'less' to read the compressed file
<11> dvm: vim should be able to view it
<8> dvm: or zless
<17> Morning
<13> my other problem with a straight deb install is the apckage sellection at the beginning I don't want to install gdm but... when I try to install another wm like xdm or kdm the X11 doesn't config right
<11> or tar xf thefile|less
<16> great great great, both works :-) thx i send a report ;-)
<11> er zxf
<16> bp7, pabs3 : thx ;-)
<1> I wonder if I make a decent cell phone game in python if I can find someone to write a J2ME MIDp client for it. I would like to be able to play offline and online.. but I dont want to learn J2ME really.. I was just gonna make a Python app that communicats through WAP CGI using apache and make a WML interface :P
<12> !tarzeau
<0> rumour has it, tarzeau is http://livecd.gnustep.org/
<18> tarzeau: he dude. havent seen you here in a while i think
<12> deadcat: heh, haven't been here for a while :)
<18> busy?
<12> deadcat: women, snow, work and stuff
<18> nice
<12> and i've got a really nice game in nethack! surrounded by 4 dragons in fort ludios
<18> no clue what that is. (=
<12> deadcat: you don't know #nethack and www.nethack.org ?
<12> !nethack
<0> from memory, nethack is a great roguelike game that kicks butt all over *angband. For more information, read http://www.nethack.org/ or newsgroup rec.games.roguelike.nethack apt-get install nethack; then run nethack. Movement is by default using the vi keys, but you can change the keybindings
<18> nope. only heard of the name
<1> I want to make an online multiplayer tycoon game kind of like the old dopewars but better, that can be played from mobile java/wap enabled cell phones, and pc.. where NPC's, Web, and WAP users can all play simulatiously :P
<19> any idea why having LABEL=swap1 in my fstab instead of /dev/sda5 won't mount it, I formatted using mkswap -L swap1 /dev/sda5 swapon LABEL=swap1 won't work neither
<1> I think I will give the player the option of being a cop or a dealer, and the junkies and everyone else will be computer NPCs
<1> that way the market and the police coverage will be determined by the human presence on the server
<20> there is something using port 80 on my server and it doesnt allow apache to run (port 80 already in use) netstat -pnt | grep :80 shows its making out connections to various weird sites and in the PID only a '-' is shown. Recently I detected a virus on my sytem and removed it with clamav but now I cannot manage to get rid of this thing can anyone give me a solution
<21> tugrussel: run netstat as root
<21> tugrussel: then you shouldn't see a '-'
<22> tugrussel: use netstat -anp as root
<22> and only look for lines saying LISTEN
<21> yeah.
<20> nothing
<20> nothing strange except zbind
<23> hello all
<24> how did mercurycase@mercurycase.com get into postfix's queue while smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_auth_destination reject and mercurycase.com is not a relay or my domain
<1> I think I may have to make this J2ME on the phone and make a client for the PC as well and use sockets.. the post/get cgi method severly limits my methods of sync and thus how the players can interact on the server.
<1> I guess I should look up some good documentation and find some tools that run on linux
<23> is there a good enlightenment 17 debian package somewhere?
<23> i have installed rm17 via apt-get but must say its very very unstable wondering if there a some little more stable versions out there?
<18> slug: yes
<18> !e17
<0> Don't even think about asking ljlane anything about e17 or efm. see DR17
<18> ****. i forgot. but Gnea uses e17 and have the .deb
<18> !list e17
<1> he was here like 4+ hours ago
<25> eh mates..
<1> list what? vals? keys?
<18> i dont know how to search the bots for e17 related stuff
<25> any late niters up n familiar with damnsmalllinux perchance?.. ;]]
<18> nvz: i dont know
<26> listvals
<18> tarzeau: #dsl
<18> tech9iner: ^^
<26> seach the contents - listvals
<18> !listvals e17
<0> Factoid search of 'e17' by value (5): e17 ;; reporting bugs ;; efm ;; e17cvs ;; 2.2.13pre17.
<25> deadcat: eh mate?..
<18> tech9iner: #dsl for damn small linux
<18> mate
<25> really now.. ever popped into .. ahem.. #dsl have ye deadcat rofl
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