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<0> yay, finally fglrx is installed
<1> im a newb
<2> apt-key add gpg: can't open `': No such file or directory
<3> aptitude is best for installing system packages while it gets better hands on dependencies
<1> so what
<0> now how do I actually use it?
<4> gravity: newb!
<1> have to start somewhere
<5> chealer: what sort of options would allow me to coach apt-get in terms of this? nothing in the man page is jumping out at me.
<6> abrotman: Compared to many I am, which is scary
<7> deadcat: Nah, I'd write a script to do it. I'd call it "NOTdpkg"
<0> or does it just get used automatically when running an OpenGL application, and doesn't need to be loaded manually?
<8> !start a flame war
<4> gravity: i think i'm .. 7-8 years .. i can't remember :)
<9> abrotman: i am 16 years (=
<10> Man, packages are for losers...I run slackware...wait, no



<4> i used to manage my system with .. dselect
<4> deadcat: years old ?
<11> Amarande: The main part of fglrx is the X driver, which is needed to actually start X
<9> abrotman: using linux right? haha
<6> abrotman: Me too, until I switched to aptitude
<12> cem__: most of us remember when we were thrashing; some of us still do it
<3> aptitude was introduced with Sarge, when I upgraded from Woody that's what I used: aptitude
<11> Amarande: The OpenGL part (libGL) is loaded only by programs which use GL
<0> Wyzard: so I should drxx again and select fglrx as the driver?
<10> my slink system used all kinds of dpkg
<6> I use apt-get for limited things. Some single package installs, pulling build-deps, and pulling sources. That's it.
<11> Amarande: yes
<4> gravity: i think when i switched to apt-get .. i'm not sure aptitude existed yet
<7> I remember when dselect wasn't just an apt frontend
<3> when doing a dist-upgrade aptitude owns
<6> abrotman: Yeah, I just stuck with dselect because I really like having an interactive frontend
<4> i remember when dselect ****ed ... oh wait .. it still does :)
<6> I don't know how people manage to run sid without an interactive apt frontend
<0> i remember when I could spend 5 or 6 hours just in dselect when setting up a new box
<3> haha, ;) abrotman
<6> Heh, it wasn't that bad. It got a worse rap than it deserved. It wasn't intuitive, but it worked
<9> i dont remember when dselect ****s.. i just started using debian 3 weeks ago
<13> mmmm heaven
<4> gravity: dependency resolution took a long time
<7> gravity: I thought dselect was more intuitive than older versions of aptitude
<0> Is BIND hopefully free of root holes currently?
<10> sure gravity, after the initial 3 hour learning session, dselect was great...for breaking things
<6> Dwonis: Me too
<7> Amarande: hah! who knows?
<6> abrotman: Yeah, but it was easier to fix large breakages in unstable :-)
<11> Amarande: There's a nifty little DNS cache called "pdns" that you can install
<8> Amarande: no, that's sendmail
<14> I've problems in boot time if I use different mouse or monitor.. How I resolve this problem? The 'udev' is loaded and my kernel is 2.6.8-2-k7
<6> Saskwach: It didn't take me 3 hours. It took me a few minutes to do complex things
<15> lunaphyte: try something like # apt-get install cacti libapache2-mod-php4-
<0> speaking of sendmail, I noticed etch doesn't install an MTA anymore by default, either
<10> I know, I'm making use of the hyperbole.
<11> Amarande: There's also a nifty package called "resolvconf" that does cool things with your system's DNS configuration
<6> Saskwach: I read the help though, which is something most people apparently didn't do
<8> Amarande: I mean wftp, er .. php .. er wait. I forget. ;)
<6> Once I figured that out, it was easy
<2> GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net experimental Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
<4> you ****er
<4> why didn't you say that
<2> This is after I run the key information givent o me from the topic!
<4> !tell dn4 about marillat key
<16> Amaramde: it seems that there weren't much security holes discovered lately in bind
<10> what? there's a manual? Debian's well documented? Who woulda thunk it from the stuff you see in here...
<6> hehe
<6> aptitude has kick-*** documentation
<3> Saskwach: there is a catch: the manual is for people who read, those who don't come here
<6> It's really long though, so most people don't look at it enough, myself included
<14> I've problems in boot time if I use different mouse or monitor.. How I resolve this problem? The 'udev' is loaded and my kernel is 2.6.8-2-k7
<4> gravity: is 7 done yet?
<9> can someone explain why the website show 18 seeders, and when i bt the file. its 0 seeds?
<10> aptitude does have pretty good documentation
<6> abrotman: Working on the drivers now. The server is basically done
<4> gravity: how long does it take to build ?



<6> abrotman: I don't know, I build it in pieces
<17> What can I use to connect to my ubuntu box using xdmcp
<4> gravity: you can't use buildd ?
<6> ClayG: #ubuntu
<9> ClayG: #ubuntu
<4> ClayG: ask #ubuntu
<3> ClayG: ubuntu cable
<8> because it's not debian :p
<6> abrotman: Uh... I could, but I need to do work locally for committing to svn easily
<4> ah ok
<0> Restarting X.
<17> What can I use to connect to my kubuntu box using xdmcp
<17> sorry type-o
<7> ClayG: Are you trying to connect to an Ubuntu box from a Debian machine?
<4> ClayG: #kubuntu
<6> ClayG: #ubuntu
<3> ClayG: an ubuntu cable
<9> gravity: @kubuntu
<9> oops
<17> heh i mean debian
<6> either way
<8> hahaha
<17> man sorry
<17> no i have a windows xp machine
<10> gravity: ssh-agent?
<17> a debian machine and an ubuntu machine
<9> ClayG: #edubuntu would be our next answer
<14> I've problems in boot time if I use different mouse or monitor.. How I resolve this problem? The 'udev' is loaded and my kernel is 2.6.8-2-k7
<17> the nix machines can use the xdmcp chooser and connect to eachother
<17> with the remote desktop
<4> ClayG: go ask #ubuntu
<3> knoxy: thats an x server configuration, not a kernel issue
<18> !ubuntu
<19> it has been said that ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian.. Ubuntu doesn't have a strong security team like Debian does - http://packetstormsecurity.org/filedesc/eterm-exploit.c.html
<3> knoxy: see if you have x installed, and if so run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (for XFree, not Xorg)
<7> ClayG: Run X --help and look at the "-indirect" or "-direct" options
<9> we havent seen bob2 in a while no?
<1> more like poo-buntu
<1> haha
<4> !seen bob2
<19> bob2 <i=rob@crumbs.ertius.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 46d 19h 34m 57s ago, saying: 'Mortal1: np, good luck'.
<3> deadcat: I hope he is not banned as well!
<4> deadcat: we keep shooting the ops
<9> Azar: damn... like mwilson? hahah
<6> No, bob2 isn't banned at all
<4> gravity: where'd he go? release time again ?
<20> what happened to bob1?
<14> Azar how I resolve this problem? mouse drivers not exists or isn't loadeds, I think..
<6> abrotman: No idea, but that's definitely not it
<4> SerajewelKS: /msg nickserv info bob1
<1> hey i get an error when i try to burn cds, how do i configure it
<1> my cd writer
<20> abrotman: it was a joke...
<3> knoxy: you should know better than anyone if you have X Server installed
<4> gravity: maybe one of the DDs/ops told him to leave ?
<15> gravity: why?
<14> Azar I've x server installed..
<15> gravity: oops
<15> abrotman: why?
<4> chealer: why what ?
<6> abrotman: No, he's just vanished. I ***ume he's got his reasons
<15> abrotman: you're talking about bob2?
<4> gravity: he hasn't been on fn at all
<3> knoxy: then run this command in terminal : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and set up your mouse and display configurations
<4> chealer: yes
<15> abrotman: I don't see why a DD or op would have asked bob2 to leave
<9> maybe hes sick of irc or freenode, or hes in jail, dead
<4> chealer: why not?
<14> Azar ok.. I go set this command.. wait
<4> !seen greycat
<19> greycat <i=rfc1413@wooledge.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian-bots, 16d 6h 22m 19s ago, saying: 'that one's 404. http://www.ruhr.de/home/smallo/award.html had it, but appears down/slow.'.


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