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<0> Whenever a person changes distributions, does the install destroy all of the information on a person's OS?
<1> Amarande: links
<2> yeah, I have lynx
<2> anyway
<3> but i cant record anything either
<4> deadcat: does the programs you mentioned support sftp?
<5> Fujoor: Pretty much... it's not actually FTP, but you use it in a similar way ("get" and "put" commands, etc.)
<1> Red_Cloud: if you tell it to
<2> is this something I can fix by installing another package
<1> Fujoor: yes
<2> or is it more like, 'go back to sarge'
<6> megatronix: no it is something else when you put the variable in your .bashrc or whatever it is set ok
<2> and 'settle for no GL support'
<7> Red_Cloud: it depends on how the change is done.
<4> deadcat: so i can bascily sftp them trough putty?
<1> Fujoor: but if its huge *** file. it will take a while because it does encrypt the data



<8> benjamindees, top doesnt indicate anything obvious
<9> Red_Cloud: generally yes. you'll want backups, or carefully isolated /home on its own drive/partition.
<10> Amarande: Could you explain your problem to me quickly?
<1> Fujoor: no. putty is for commands. winscp is for tranfering files.
<6> megatronix: when it wasnt working for me i could echo the variable value and see it was set to fvwm like it was supposed to be
<2> gravity: as I said, xorg complains with an (EE) that it didn't detect any devices, and then fatals out because it can't get a screen.
<11> !tell Amarande about drxx
<4> deadcat: but it doesnt need to be that secure, i just want to use the server with screen and rtorrent to download torrents, and when the files are done i want to ftp them over
<12> hey guys, im using proftpd and i can connect to my server via ip: ftp://192.168.1.10 but not by hostname ie: ftp://code0.org/ any ideas? it just hangs
<5> Amarande: Using the vesa driver?
<6> megatronix: the documentation said that having the variable set like that should have put me into fvwm like i wanted
<11> Amarande, try the vesa driver for now
<2> wyzard: I'm not sure WHAT driver it's using
<13> hmm
<2> it didn't even ask me to select one
<2> unlike xfree
<13> whats the best application for tv cards?
<5> Amarande: drxx and choose the vesa driver
<14> does Debian have a hardware/driver probe like knoppix?
<6> megatronix: but it didnt actually work for me against the documentation
<1> Fujoor: then config ftp server or a simple webserver. and you can just wget it from the other machine.
<15> Is there a short answer why I should create a boot-partition on a cf-card but not on a standard IDE drive, which should be emulated....
<5> Amarande: Then install fglrx-driver if you want
<10> Amarande: Can you put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log up in a paster for me to look at?
<4> deadcat: ah true, well thanks for your help, ill have to check them all out and test which one i like most
<6> megatronix: i was still going to metacity even with the variable reset
<13> Amarande: I used the driver from ati
<13> and it works great
<16> Wyzard i did what you said, and i got this error : Package pwc-source was not built successfully, see
<16> /var/cache/mod***/pwc-source*buildlog* for details! tried to pull up the log but nothings there
<17> NitinShantharam: you don't have code0.org mapped to the ip
<10> Amarande: With the log I may be able to help, but without it I'm not much use
<14> cire: not sure why you should use a cf at all unless you're working with a headless cluster node, or an embedded device
<1> Fujoor: i usually do it the small webserver way. login to remote machine via ssh, screen, wget, done
<6> megatronix: i think what happenend is gnome star5ted up read the variable and called fvwm like it was supposed to
<1> SperMite: you have linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
<12> Gnea: no thats fine - im sure it is i think its somehting with access rights
<4> deadcat: that simple? i have never used a webserver
<6> megatronix: then gnome calls the session manager gnome session manager to rerrun all the progs from the last session
<17> NitinShantharam: if you're sure then why did you ask?
<16> 2.6.8-2-686
<16> deadcat
<12> Gnea: beause it still doesnt work? wth
<15> jshriver: Because it is in a laptop which controls a webcam. This why, it's running day and NIGHT, ans those harddrives are too loud.
<6> megatronix: and 1 ptrogram it remembered from the prev session was metacity
<1> Fujoor: lighttpd is very light and secure... if you want smaller. there are few. but i have lighttpd on my laptop.
<6> megatronix: so metacity styarts and kills fvwm
<17> NitinShantharam: is the ftp server on the same machine as your browser or on a system on your lan?
<15> btw: what's a headless cluster node?
<5> SperMite: Did you see any error messages while it was trying to compile?
<1> Fujoor: ah. thttpd is the small one.
<2> hmm
<6> megatronix: so what worked for me is in a shell as a regular user in gnome with metacity running
<12> Gnea, the ftpserver is on my lan, and its connected to the outside world (http:/) works fine inside and out
<2> if you have a 2-button mouse with wheel
<4> deadcat: and thats a small webserver?
<11> cire, did you really use the woody installer to install to a CF card?
<2> does X treat clicking the wheel as button 3 or should I emulate 3 buttons?
<6> megatronix: i typed fvwm --replace
<1> very small. smaller than lighttpd



<16> Wyzard nope
<3> i cant erase cdrw: http://pastebin.com/529776
<12> Gnea, you can try it if you want to.. ftp://code0.org/ should should an annoymous welcome message but ti doesnt
<1> SperMite: i use the driver from the website... but you really need to install the header files if you havent
<17> NitinShantharam: are all systems on the lan have the ip set right in each of their /etc/hosts files?
<15> benjamindees: yes. Is there sth wrong with it? I read sth about too many accesses, extending the max
<6> megatronix: this is trying to switch window managers on the fly in the midddle of the session
<0> deadcat chealer Supaplex then changing distros is not something to be done without thought. Guess I must be content for now and wait for another day.
<6> megatronix: kill metacity and start fvwm
<12> Gnea, yes
<17> NitinShantharam: code0.org A 64.81.34.210
<2> basically, is clicking down on the mouse wheel (not scrolling it) treated as the middle button?
<1> Red_Cloud: just keep /home in diff partition
<6> megatronix; it asked me some question about chaning config files but i said no
<16> deadcat i have the headers, kernel-headers-2.6.8-2
<18> DaveLib: how did you kill metacity? by typing fvwm --replace?
<17> NitinShantharam: so you're trying to connect to an internet ip from within a lan that's nat'd?
<11> cire, so it's attached to an ide controller?
<6> megatronix: so i now had fvwm running in my current gnome session
<14> hrm, need help setting up a sound card... I selected SiS integrade AC97, and it seems the modules is loaded.. but I get /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp errors when I try to play anything
<12> sure..
<15> benjamindees: yes
<1> SerajewelKS: just run m-a and go into the interactive mode, prepare, then download. then build
<17> no wonder it's not working: you can't do that.
<6> megatronix: i think that was it but i am going from memory
<7> Red_Cloud: well, installing an OS and partitionning is not something to be done without thought. but that's unlikely to change soon
<12> Gnea, wait what.. maybe i didnt understand you
<17> NitinShantharam: there are at least a couple of solutions...
<3> can anyone know how to fix it?
<3> http://pastebin.com/529776
<6> megatronix: maybe to be safe before you try it google "fvwm --replace"
<12> Gnea, ftp://64.81.34.210/ doesnt wrok etiher, so there might be something wrong with the way the domain is set up
<11> cire, okay shouldn't be a problem, but it is, so you have lots of options, start trying them...
<6> megatronix: if that was it google will prob confirm that
<17> NitinShantharam: ok, code0.org is set to your internet IP, but you've also got it set to your lan ip?
<12> gyes
<12> yes
<17> NitinShantharam: or are they 2 separate IP mappins?
<6> megatronix: but i am not done yet there is one more step
<19> can you tell lilo to boot off of a cdrom?
<12> no. its one
<17> yeah, it just won't work like that - you need to make 2 seperate mappings - such as code0.org and ftp-lan.code0.org
<11> grew, no
<2> okay, it works with vesa
<2> for some reason it doesn't like ati, weird
<6> megatronix: next you must shut down gnome ie logout from the current session
<19> benjamindees: **** why not
<2> next
<17> obviously, ftp-lan would be the 192.168...
<12> Gnea, i sent you a private message
<14> grew: hrm not sure... think once it's already probing the HD it's to late to boot el torito.. but it might be possible if it has a ATAPI CD driver built-in..
<17> NitinShantharam: no you didn't.
<0> deadcat chealer thanks for your advice. i believe that I will forget it. I was hoping that changing distros was more like an update rather than a total new install
<15> benjamindees: just thought: put it in, install debian, have fun. Don't know why there's a differnce between a harddisk at ide1 and a CF-card with adaptor at IDE1...
<2> how do I make GDM start "properly" without restarting the computer?
<15> (ide0?)
<20> Amarande: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
<21> Amarande: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
<6> megatronix: but when you exit the current session, you must click the option to remember the current session
<11> grew, because lilo ****s; try something like sbm
<17> NitinShantharam: you need to register with services in order to pm on this network
<6> megatronix: so now your session managaer remembers you are runing fvwm
<6> megatronix: and the next time you enter gnome the session manager brings back fvwm
<7> Red_Cloud: it depends what you mean by changing distros. do you mean switching between different Debian releases or switching from a Linux distribution like Slackware to a different Linux distribution, like Debian?
<12> Gnea, oh.
<22> pawdro: Try looking at cdrecod's "dev=" option. cdrecord has several different drivers it uses to access CD drives, because none of them work with *every* burner ever made.
<6> megatronix: i didnt find this in any documentation
<19> benjamindees: sbm?
<6> megatronix: i did see documentation aboout the session manaf\ger: that said it always starts metacity
<22> pawdro: I doubt it's a Debian-specific problem, so you might want to look for people who know a lot about cdrecord itself. (Is there a cdrecord IRC channel?)
<12> Gnea, i have this zone file for code0 http://code0.org/zone.txt
<11> !sbm
<23> hmm... sbm is Smart Boot Manager, or docs on the Debian CD: /install/README.sbm. Uses a floppy to boot from CD if your computer can't.
<6> megatronix: but my own exprerience showed me something was bringing back metacity after the variable told it not to


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