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<0> Whenever a person changes distributions, does the install destroy all of the information on a person's OS? <1> Amarande: links <2> yeah, I have lynx <2> anyway <3> but i cant record anything either <4> deadcat: does the programs you mentioned support sftp? <5> Fujoor: Pretty much... it's not actually FTP, but you use it in a similar way ("get" and "put" commands, etc.) <1> Red_Cloud: if you tell it to <2> is this something I can fix by installing another package <1> Fujoor: yes <2> or is it more like, 'go back to sarge' <6> megatronix: no it is something else when you put the variable in your .bashrc or whatever it is set ok <2> and 'settle for no GL support' <7> Red_Cloud: it depends on how the change is done. <4> deadcat: so i can bascily sftp them trough putty? <1> Fujoor: but if its huge *** file. it will take a while because it does encrypt the data
<8> benjamindees, top doesnt indicate anything obvious <9> Red_Cloud: generally yes. you'll want backups, or carefully isolated /home on its own drive/partition. <10> Amarande: Could you explain your problem to me quickly? <1> Fujoor: no. putty is for commands. winscp is for tranfering files. <6> megatronix: when it wasnt working for me i could echo the variable value and see it was set to fvwm like it was supposed to be <2> gravity: as I said, xorg complains with an (EE) that it didn't detect any devices, and then fatals out because it can't get a screen. <11> !tell Amarande about drxx <4> deadcat: but it doesnt need to be that secure, i just want to use the server with screen and rtorrent to download torrents, and when the files are done i want to ftp them over <12> hey guys, im using proftpd and i can connect to my server via ip: ftp://192.168.1.10 but not by hostname ie: ftp://code0.org/ any ideas? it just hangs <5> Amarande: Using the vesa driver? <6> megatronix: the documentation said that having the variable set like that should have put me into fvwm like i wanted <11> Amarande, try the vesa driver for now <2> wyzard: I'm not sure WHAT driver it's using <13> hmm <2> it didn't even ask me to select one <2> unlike xfree <13> whats the best application for tv cards? <5> Amarande: drxx and choose the vesa driver <14> does Debian have a hardware/driver probe like knoppix? <6> megatronix: but it didnt actually work for me against the documentation <1> Fujoor: then config ftp server or a simple webserver. and you can just wget it from the other machine. <15> Is there a short answer why I should create a boot-partition on a cf-card but not on a standard IDE drive, which should be emulated.... <5> Amarande: Then install fglrx-driver if you want <10> Amarande: Can you put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log up in a paster for me to look at? <4> deadcat: ah true, well thanks for your help, ill have to check them all out and test which one i like most <6> megatronix: i was still going to metacity even with the variable reset <13> Amarande: I used the driver from ati <13> and it works great <16> Wyzard i did what you said, and i got this error : Package pwc-source was not built successfully, see <16> /var/cache/mod***/pwc-source*buildlog* for details! tried to pull up the log but nothings there <17> NitinShantharam: you don't have code0.org mapped to the ip <10> Amarande: With the log I may be able to help, but without it I'm not much use <14> cire: not sure why you should use a cf at all unless you're working with a headless cluster node, or an embedded device <1> Fujoor: i usually do it the small webserver way. login to remote machine via ssh, screen, wget, done <6> megatronix: i think what happenend is gnome star5ted up read the variable and called fvwm like it was supposed to <1> SperMite: you have linux-headers-`uname -r` ? <12> Gnea: no thats fine - im sure it is i think its somehting with access rights <4> deadcat: that simple? i have never used a webserver <6> megatronix: then gnome calls the session manager gnome session manager to rerrun all the progs from the last session <17> NitinShantharam: if you're sure then why did you ask? <16> 2.6.8-2-686 <16> deadcat <12> Gnea: beause it still doesnt work? wth <15> jshriver: Because it is in a laptop which controls a webcam. This why, it's running day and NIGHT, ans those harddrives are too loud. <6> megatronix: and 1 ptrogram it remembered from the prev session was metacity <1> Fujoor: lighttpd is very light and secure... if you want smaller. there are few. but i have lighttpd on my laptop. <6> megatronix: so metacity styarts and kills fvwm <17> NitinShantharam: is the ftp server on the same machine as your browser or on a system on your lan? <15> btw: what's a headless cluster node? <5> SperMite: Did you see any error messages while it was trying to compile? <1> Fujoor: ah. thttpd is the small one. <2> hmm <6> megatronix: so what worked for me is in a shell as a regular user in gnome with metacity running <12> Gnea, the ftpserver is on my lan, and its connected to the outside world (http:/) works fine inside and out <2> if you have a 2-button mouse with wheel <4> deadcat: and thats a small webserver? <11> cire, did you really use the woody installer to install to a CF card? <2> does X treat clicking the wheel as button 3 or should I emulate 3 buttons? <6> megatronix: i typed fvwm --replace <1> very small. smaller than lighttpd
<16> Wyzard nope <3> i cant erase cdrw: http://pastebin.com/529776 <12> Gnea, you can try it if you want to.. ftp://code0.org/ should should an annoymous welcome message but ti doesnt <1> SperMite: i use the driver from the website... but you really need to install the header files if you havent <17> NitinShantharam: are all systems on the lan have the ip set right in each of their /etc/hosts files? <15> benjamindees: yes. Is there sth wrong with it? I read sth about too many accesses, extending the max <6> megatronix: this is trying to switch window managers on the fly in the midddle of the session <0> deadcat chealer Supaplex then changing distros is not something to be done without thought. Guess I must be content for now and wait for another day. <6> megatronix: kill metacity and start fvwm <12> Gnea, yes <17> NitinShantharam: code0.org A 64.81.34.210 <2> basically, is clicking down on the mouse wheel (not scrolling it) treated as the middle button? <1> Red_Cloud: just keep /home in diff partition <6> megatronix; it asked me some question about chaning config files but i said no <16> deadcat i have the headers, kernel-headers-2.6.8-2 <18> DaveLib: how did you kill metacity? by typing fvwm --replace? <17> NitinShantharam: so you're trying to connect to an internet ip from within a lan that's nat'd? <11> cire, so it's attached to an ide controller? <6> megatronix: so i now had fvwm running in my current gnome session <14> hrm, need help setting up a sound card... I selected SiS integrade AC97, and it seems the modules is loaded.. but I get /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp errors when I try to play anything <12> sure.. <15> benjamindees: yes <1> SerajewelKS: just run m-a and go into the interactive mode, prepare, then download. then build <17> no wonder it's not working: you can't do that. <6> megatronix: i think that was it but i am going from memory <7> Red_Cloud: well, installing an OS and partitionning is not something to be done without thought. but that's unlikely to change soon <12> Gnea, wait what.. maybe i didnt understand you <17> NitinShantharam: there are at least a couple of solutions... <3> can anyone know how to fix it? <3> http://pastebin.com/529776 <6> megatronix: maybe to be safe before you try it google "fvwm --replace" <12> Gnea, ftp://64.81.34.210/ doesnt wrok etiher, so there might be something wrong with the way the domain is set up <11> cire, okay shouldn't be a problem, but it is, so you have lots of options, start trying them... <6> megatronix: if that was it google will prob confirm that <17> NitinShantharam: ok, code0.org is set to your internet IP, but you've also got it set to your lan ip? <12> gyes <12> yes <17> NitinShantharam: or are they 2 separate IP mappins? <6> megatronix: but i am not done yet there is one more step <19> can you tell lilo to boot off of a cdrom? <12> no. its one <17> yeah, it just won't work like that - you need to make 2 seperate mappings - such as code0.org and ftp-lan.code0.org <11> grew, no <2> okay, it works with vesa <2> for some reason it doesn't like ati, weird <6> megatronix: next you must shut down gnome ie logout from the current session <19> benjamindees: **** why not <2> next <17> obviously, ftp-lan would be the 192.168... <12> Gnea, i sent you a private message <14> grew: hrm not sure... think once it's already probing the HD it's to late to boot el torito.. but it might be possible if it has a ATAPI CD driver built-in.. <17> NitinShantharam: no you didn't. <0> deadcat chealer thanks for your advice. i believe that I will forget it. I was hoping that changing distros was more like an update rather than a total new install <15> benjamindees: just thought: put it in, install debian, have fun. Don't know why there's a differnce between a harddisk at ide1 and a CF-card with adaptor at IDE1... <2> how do I make GDM start "properly" without restarting the computer? <15> (ide0?) <20> Amarande: /etc/init.d/gdm restart <21> Amarande: /etc/init.d/gdm restart <6> megatronix: but when you exit the current session, you must click the option to remember the current session <11> grew, because lilo ****s; try something like sbm <17> NitinShantharam: you need to register with services in order to pm on this network <6> megatronix: so now your session managaer remembers you are runing fvwm <6> megatronix: and the next time you enter gnome the session manager brings back fvwm <7> Red_Cloud: it depends what you mean by changing distros. do you mean switching between different Debian releases or switching from a Linux distribution like Slackware to a different Linux distribution, like Debian? <12> Gnea, oh. <22> pawdro: Try looking at cdrecod's "dev=" option. cdrecord has several different drivers it uses to access CD drives, because none of them work with *every* burner ever made. <6> megatronix: i didnt find this in any documentation <19> benjamindees: sbm? <6> megatronix: i did see documentation aboout the session manaf\ger: that said it always starts metacity <22> pawdro: I doubt it's a Debian-specific problem, so you might want to look for people who know a lot about cdrecord itself. (Is there a cdrecord IRC channel?) <12> Gnea, i have this zone file for code0 http://code0.org/zone.txt <11> !sbm <23> hmm... sbm is Smart Boot Manager, or docs on the Debian CD: /install/README.sbm. Uses a floppy to boot from CD if your computer can't. <6> megatronix: but my own exprerience showed me something was bringing back metacity after the variable told it not to
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