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<0> There's a way to pick 2.6?
<1> Amarande: yes
<0> On 3.1r1, or only on testing?
<2> streuner, it doesnt answer the question if it was upgraded recently.
<1> Amarande: type f3 for help at the startup and it give an option for that
<3> omry: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say?
<4> anyone know of a simple serial port comm program for linux? i keep forgetting its name
<5> fooz: minicom
<2> streuner, ii libc6 2.3.5-8 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data
<1> Amarande: on stable
<1> Amarande: in fact, i always use the 2.6 kernel when doing stable installs
<1> Amarande: but Etch does also now have security updates
<4> not a whole terminal emulator like minicom, just something to open up a port and send commands
<3> omry: and the second entry?
<1> fooz: minicom
<2> streuner, there is no second entry.
<0> okay, time to go give that a go.
<5> minicom isn't good for scripting :(
<1> fooz: a terminal emulator is how you send commands
<4> no, I have a terminal emulator (xterm, screen, the console)
<2> streuner, 990 http://tv testing/main Packages
<5> you don't need full-screen ansi though
<5> the way minicom works
<2> thats my apt-proxy
<3> omry: ah, your proxy :-)
<6> line 1: dpkg-parsechangelog: command not found. i get that in error log while trying to module-***istant build comedi
<2> streuner, which serves me well :)
<3> omry: well, sounds like etch/testing then
<4> i said already i'm not looking for minicom. I know what i'm looking for, I just forgot its name
<2> streuner, waht do you mean?
<3> omry: its ok
<4> there's some command that takes a serial device as an argument, and it opens it and connects it to your terminal
<6> what package contains dpkg-parsechangelog ?
<2> streuner, ok.. so what can this crap be? both eclipse and xchat gives me errors like that.
<7> fooz: what, like minicom?
<8> hi, is there any way to have the GNOME Desktop directory soemwhere else? I want it to be in ~/.Desktop
<4> sunday really is every day.
<3> omry: /msg dpkg bts
<3> omry: welcome to testing
<2> streuner, I installed eclispe manually.
<2> two versions crash.
<7> BucWheat: install build-essential
<9> seyon /
<6> dondelelcaro k
<5> fooz: ser2net maybe?
<5> I'm not sure though
<6> dondelelcaro now i get: dh_testdir: Command not found
<7> BucWheat: install debhelper
<6> k
<5> whether it fakes a telnet connection, or whether it does slip
<9> seyon Zmodem Kermit modemu
<7> fooz: if you just want to open up the port and send commands, you can cat directly to /dev/ttyS0
<4> nope. there was a program in Debian called dip (part of some SLIP tools) that went away, but something appeared just like it
<5> no flow control that way
<4> I used it a few weeks ago.. I just can't remember wtf it is
<7> \amethyst: right, but who needs flow control? ;-)
<6> dondelelcaro what is the paste page? i have another error i would like for you to look at
<7> !paste
<10> Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help".
<5> fooz: picocom?
<4> no :/
<4> nevermind
<5> not used it myself
<4> i'll go read every package name
<0> Okay, 2.6 did a -little- better.
<5> That's what I'm doing :)
<5> well, /~dmodem
<0> But it loads the e1000 driver and then still claims there's no ethernet card.
<0> Is e1000 considered a bleeding edge new driver?
<5> /~dserial didn't reveal anything~
<0> Am I going to have to either use a test distro or abandon Debian for some other dist?
<11> SerajewelKS: About as soon as we see a Java desktop, I imagine :)
<12> Dwonis: isn't solaris' DE written in java?
<7> Amarande: give us the lspci output
<13> SerajewelKS - CLR?
<12> Buddha|: aka .NET
<11> SerajewelKS: My understanding is that it isn't.
<6> dondelelcaro http://channels.debian.net/paste/1682.
<0> dondelelcaro: will the lspci output from this Knoppix boot do?
<12> Dwonis: okay i really don't know i just thought it was
<0> eth controller shows up as this:
<0> 0000:01:07.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 107c (rev 05)
<13> SerajewelKS - No. Solaris' DE is Gnome.
<12> Buddha|: even ancient solaris?
<0> Successfully loads under e1000 on Knoppix. 2.4 Debian install doesn't even load e1000, 2.6 install loads it but doesn't activate eth0.
<13> SerajewelKS - it used to be CDE, the Common Desktop Environment.
<11> SerajewelKS: I think ancient solaris uses CDE or Motif
<7> Amarande: and which module has been loaded to deal with that card? have you tried the normal eepro driver or the e100 driver?
<12> ah
<13> which looks like crap
<0> e100 does nothing.
<7> Amarande: check dmesg|less; on the knoppix box and give us the output related to that card.
<0> e1000: eth0: e1000_probe: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection
<12> only thing i don't like about mono and stuff is that binaries still end in .exe
<7> Amarande: hrm; and the dmesg output when you load the e1000 driver on the Debian installer?
<0> That I couldn't get at.
<0> I know loading the e1000 driver gives no error message, and no nothing, really.
<7> Amarande: sure you can. F2; run dmesg|less
<0> Okay, reboot time.
<0> Y'know, one bad thing about a fast machine ...
<0> It is very hard to switch the CDs in time when booting up. :)
<14> what is the "armor" mode on the GPG signatures ?
<7> Amarande: you may also want to get a copy of the etch d-i ready as well, as that may be easier if you can't get the e1000 driver to work
<12> Thanatermesis: i'd guess ascii
<15> i wonder if it'll make much of a difference if i swap my 2 rtl8139's for 3c905's in my p166mxx router pc. i just routes internet (4mbit/768) for my LAN
<14> just is for save the signature file in ascii mode ?
<12> Thanatermesis: what signatures are we talking about
<7> fhffhqvb: dunno; you're probably right at the upper limit for transfers by that card. ;-)
<15> dondelelcaro: it doesn't do more than 500K/sec at any given moment
<7> fhffhqvb: yeah, and I'd be surprised if it could... ;-)
<3> fhffhqvb: hehe, sounds like my SiS NIC too ;-)
<15> it's a 10/100mbit card :-|
<14> SerajewelKS about sign a file, for verify after it
<15> i don't think there's a way to measure how much CPU resources a NIC is using, is there?
<16> Dwonis: Well, I've got AGP working now, but my sound problem remains anyway.
<17> fhffhqvb: it doesn't matter for your purpose
<12> Thanatermesis: you're trying to verify a file, or sign a file?
<6> dondelelcaro did you get a chance to look at http://channels.debian.net/paste/1682
<18> greetings
<18> need a little help setting up debian as a desktop machine
<11> myst-dragon: sigh. I dunno, then. You could try the OSS drivers (instead of ALSA) and see if it makes a difference. I know that worked for another sound card I had (but you really shouldn't need to for emu10k1/SBLive)
<18> it's been about 4 years since I built this machine and have been updating since... but I remember one problem I had initially... is that since Debian tries to keep things minimal.. it's hard to setup the core basics for a desktop
<18> for example.. there are hundreds of listings for gnome and X, but how do you install their core?
<16> Dwonis: I'll give it a try, anyway. Can't hurt anything.
<16> Dwonis: Thanks for your help, though.
<14> SerajewelKS both, i try to sign a file for a future verification for some users
<11> myst-dragon: no problem
<14> i just trying to know "what is" the armor option
<11> myst-dragon: good luck
<16> Dwonis: thanks =)
<0> It said something about e1000: Ignoring new-style parameters in presence of obsolete ones.
<11> Thanatermesis: --clear-sign, I think. Or you can use -a
<19> mmm guys, i am using/abusing sarge on a production server, so i dont want to move to sid or so. How would I install something liek php5 which isnt in sid ?
<0> Then it gave the copyright and version notice.
<0> Then nothing else.
<0> The driver loads successfully but does not find the card, it seems.
<12> Thanatermesis: the armor option converts the signature from binary to ASCII so it can be pasted in an email for example
<3> Amarande: 2.6 or 2.4?
<20> is it common for those SiS nic s to not deliver full bandwidth on the LAN ??
<0> I don't know how Knoppix does it so I don't know what's going on.
<0> 2.6.
<12> Thanatermesis: it's intended to be used in channels that aren't 8-bit clean, like email
<12> Thanatermesis: if you're uploading to a website, you can leave it unarmored
<3> Amarande: did you try etch d-i too?
<12> Thanatermesis: binary signatures are .sig by convention, ASCII-armored are .asc
<21> how do I get eth0 to work? I get the error "No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases", etc. The router works fine though
<18> also how do I enable DMA on a DVD drive? I'm using Nero right now, and what normally takes me 20min to burn a DVD is taking almost 2 hrs
<3> anavim: /msg dpkg dhcp client
<18> not sure why DMA was turned off
<0> I didn't try Etch yet.
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