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<0> TheHobbit: maybe that helps if you just want to ***ign the right IP-addresses?
<1> Shadowcat, whats the big flaw then, what can go wrong ???
<2> Hi, guys, Gnome is persistently failing to start on etch, taking out the X Server with it, and leaving a "*** glibc detected ***" error behind on its VT
<2> Has anyone even heard of this? I couldn't find anything that seemed relevant on google.
<3> DJ-Marcuzz: go back and read what I Typed again, and AGAIN until you understand it
<3> I'm not gonna repeat myself
<4> merlin65537: sure, but only one will have a static IP, other ones will be autoconfigured
<3> Fish-Face: bugs.debian.org
<5> Battery 1: discharging, 34%, 02:01:45 remaining
<5> oops
<6> well that was a real help, one dude says sometin wrong, then the other dude syas its wrong, and then nothing... =\
<3> so just two hours until we're rid of treestone
<2> Shadowcat, are you saying submit one, or check for one?
<1> Shadowcat, tell me what point of my solution goes wrong, i know i don't nee dto have it in inittab, but thats why im here to ask how to build it into an normal boot service!
<7> Hi
<3> DJ-Marcuzz: read what I typed
<3> I'm not repeating
<7> Hi
<1> Shadowcat, you just typed its wrong, but not WHAT is wrong!
<7> I need an information , I would like to install a wifi card on my Linux and have I to recompile my kernel?? this is using the madwifi drivers
<8> Hi
<3> christor: we're not gonna teach you how to recompile a kernel
<9> !rpm
<10> rumour has it, rpm is revolutions per minute, or Red Hat package manager;; "rpm2cpio foo.rpm | cpio -ivdum" to extract the beasties, or a programming language according to LinuxOne, or convert them to .deb's with 'alien'. Relaxing Porn Movie, or random package mangling, or an inferior package type when compared to deb. Rubbish Package Management. Retards pathetic Moaning, or roothats pathalogical muck****, or rat-poison method, or robot power ...
<0> christor: You have to have wireless lan components in it, you don't have to
<7> merlin65537: but these component are not loaded by default?
<4> bye
<1> Shadowcat, its just the vnc terminal server howto, but then i modified its so its always on and not only when someone connects, but then i miss the restart (what happens under an connect) so thats why i need an other methode for it and im here to lean how it should be done
<3> the point is that he might have to do it since I'm not quite up to speed on what's in the debian kernels
<11> Generic: are you tempted to install an rpm on your computer?
<7> Shadowcat: I don t ask you to teach me , just ask if it is really necessary to do it
<9> unfo, yeah
<11> Generic: why???
<3> !beat Generic
<3> unfo: because he's stupid
<11> Shadowcat: no impersonal attacks please :)
<5> christor: If your kernel was originally compiled with wireless support and loadable modules support then you need only compile the driver.
<9> I need to install a program, jamseeder, so i can downloaded albums and crap and get credited for seeding them
<11> Shadowcat: all are newbies sometime.
<3> Generic: and we don't help people with warez
<3> so go ask somewhere else
<9> Who said it was Warez foo
<9> Ever heard of Creative Commons licensing?
<1> so i will now refrase the question: who can help me build an startup service that executes an command and executes it again when the proram is killed?
<3> I'm pretty sure downloading full albums has an iota of illegality
<9> and if it was warez, why the hell would I want to have my downloads tracked by a central server?
<12> Don't you just want to upload a bittorrent whatsit to legaltorrents.com or whathaveyou
<7> treestone: I have installed the alst debian this afternoon , my question is , Is the wireless module are present in the default kernel of debian?
<13> Shadowcat: not necessarily.
<12> Plenty of legal music on p2p, Shadowcat
<9> jamendo.com
<3> Generic: in that case, look into alien
<5> christor: No idea, I never use default kernels on any system. I always compile myself.
<11> isn't building it yourself and using checkinstall also a good option?
<14> Shadowcat: there's nothing wrong with downloading albums so long as the license lets you
<3> treestone: I don't use stock debian kernels as a matter of security
<3> debian unstable kernels break every full moon
<11> as a matter of security?
<11> or stability?
<3> unfo: well ya, stability
<11> oh.
<5> Shadowcat: Yeah, I prefer to know exactly what I have running, myself.
<7> treestone: okok
<3> and security in this case
<15> can I replace xfree86 with xorg easily?
<16> Shadowcat: well, it's unstable. that's what the name says
<3> mirf: since you're asking, no
<11> :)
<15> heh ok
<3> _rene_: so why is it that everytime the kernel breaks in unstable we have 60 people in here screaming about non-bootable systems?
<16> but with udev, yes...
<9> !alien
<10> from memory, alien is a program which allows one to convert from one package format to another: slackware to redhat, redhat to debian, debian to slackware, redhat to slackware, etc... it can handle stampede .slp packages as well, or some slimy, green, bug-like, creepy creature from outerspace that came to Earth to have *** with agent Scully, or at http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/
<3> Generic: /msg the bot
<7> I have an other question , I bought 2 hd sata2 to do raid1 but this is not working, is it due to a problem of sata?? this is not again fully managed by linux?
<3> heh raid1
<5> christor: What you could simply do is to just try compile that driver, see if it works. If it won't compile you probably don't have the wireless option in your kernel (NB: You need the kernel headers installed for your kernel).
<17> hello, i have a courier on sarge using imap. Moving to .Outbox folder deliver but the message is keep on that folder, is that a "feature" or i nee to fix something?
<16> Shadowcat: because many people have nno clue about dealing with kernels? (not that I refer to you specifically but many error reports also are bogus)
<18> Shadowcat: is a broken kernel a reason for an unbootable system?
<9> Shadowcat, I'll keep it in mind for the future
<11> !m-a
<10> from memory, module-***istant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or the daddy, or apt-get install module-***istant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
<16> and also think that udev and initramfstools/yaird are involved
<16> those three are not kernel-related
<7> treestone: I installed the headers
<16> if udev breaks, udev breaks
<16> if one of the initrd tools breaks, they break (and the boot)
<3> bolrod: stop following me around :P
<18> ?
<7> treestone: I dont know about wireless :s , I have loaded the madwifi drivers and it worked , and iwconfig gave me a interface , but I don t know how to detect the network.
<3> _rene_: most of the time it's the kernel+yarid that screws up
<3> udev is pretty stable most of the time
<3> *knocks on wood*
<11> christor: try iwlist maybe?
<11> I do not use wireless.
<18> Shadowcat: I do? :)
<16> Shadowcat: LOL
<3> when 2.6.17 hits we're gonna have another breakage
<19> is there a registry to tell time when apt-get upgrade was executed?
<5> christor: iwlist -h
<3> yang: logs?
<16> Shadowcat: udev breaks all the time. at least on non-x86
<14> yang: if you run apt-get using sudo, you'll see an entry for the command in the auth.log
<19> Shadowcat: which?
<7> iwlist ath0 scanning : ath0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Invalid argument
<3> _rene_: not my fault you run some backwater architecture :P
<16> Shadowcat: and you already said it: yaird. yaird is crap. not the kernel
<16> Shadowcat: amd64?
<11> yang: look in /var/log
<16> Shadowcat: get down from your trip
<11> yang: I dunno.
<3> _rene_: amd64 is still unstable for me :P
<19> unfo: yeah which entry in /var/log hehe
<20> I am about to install debian and use manual package selection. This is my first time doing this so I am trying to figure out which packages I need to install. I have x window system core, gdm, and xfce4 on the list so far.
<3> things will continue to break in amd64 for a long time
<5> christor: But if you know the network you want to connect to, just connect: iwconfig ath0 essid <your essid> and continue from there.
<14> yang: apt-get upgrade doesn't write to any log files
<3> _rene_: and I do run the amd64 build
<11> yang: try dpkg.log
<3> I've just gotten used to all the screwups
<14> yang: (if it runs dpkg, then dpkg will write to logs)
<11> pvd2006: manual package selection takes too much time to be worth it.
<20> well I dont want to install kde or gnome
<19> dooglus: ok
<11> pvd2006: your PC specs pls?
<14> yang: use 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and sudo will write an entry in auth.log
<20> amd 1500+ running at 1333mhz, 1gig of ram
<3> I run kde+gnome, but I don't install the metapackages because I don't need all the crap
<20> I use xfce right now
<20> xfce is the desktop environment i want to use
<19> dooglus: well dpkg.log is enough...
<11> pvd2006: I use kde on an amd 1400+ with 128 MB of RAM and I am perfectly happy with the productivity boost it offers my mom.
<11> and with its speed.
<21> unfo: Well, with 128M of RAM, KDE is pretty much your only option.
<3> uhh
<3> you can run kde on 64mb
<22> hi (sorry for my english, i'm from russia)
<20> eh, I have used kde and gnome, I perfer gnome over kde, and xfce over gnome so far. xfce is what I am going to use, so I guess Ill have to sit there and manually select the packages I want.
<21> unfo: You need to be able to have a set of applications that all use the exact same set of libraries in order to economize.
<22> have anybody cedega (package)?
<23> Can anyone help me with hostapd? I get the following error "deauthenticated due to local deauth request". What could this be? My config file looks like this: http://phpfi.com/120405
<3> AleXXandEr: goto their homepage
<11> pipeline: I use firefox. I dont care.
<21> unfo: Firefox in 128M of RAM? Jesus christ. You must swap constantly ;_;
<11> !tell AleXXandEr --about justask
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