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<0> JoshTriplett: So why load modules that my machine does not need?
<1> tuv: it will only relay mail for the user that is authenticated, or just check who is sending ( without authentication ), or both
<2> valdyn, i'll still get my mail via pop3, but i should be able to send
<3> davidh: In some cases, the best way to autodetect support for something is to load the module and let the module do the autodetection.
<4> !folder
<5> folder is a directory damn it! near My Computer and Network Neighborhood... or the things you put in a filing cabinet. IMAP protocol's mailboxes.
<0> JoshTriplett: The booting screen just look terribly bad
<1> tuv: yes
<3> davidh: There are ways to make the boot process less chatty.
<3> davidh: If you would prefer a quieter boot process, you can either install a bootsplash to hide it from you, or you can turn down the kernel messages.
<2> valdyn, it's worth the try.. can i specify that my smarthost requires smtp over ssl?
<1> tuv: look, if your ISP would send any mail it gets asked to relay to any destination, then it would be an open spam host, they dont do this
<0> JoshTriplett: So what you say is not I don't need to be bothered with thoese errors?
<1> tuv: yes, that is in the README
<2> valdyn, it doesn't .. it requires ssl
<2> valdyn, of exim4-config?
<3> davidh: Correct. You also have the option of building a custom kernel for yourself, which doesn't include modules you don't need.
<6> davidh: it doesn't load modules you don't need, it just tries
<3> jetscreamer: In some cases it does.
<6> oh yeah
<1> tuv: /usr/share/doc/exim4/README.Debian.gz
<0> JoshTriplett: How about this error in syslog, May 12 01:57:10 localhost kernel: cdrom: open failed.
<2> valdyn, great.. this is a wonderful help.. many thanks
<3> davidh: That can happen for various reasons; usually it means something tried to open /dev/cdrom with no CD in the drive.
<0> JoshTriplett: wait a minute. When we build the kernel, we run make menuconfig to specify the system configuration. Why it does not help?
<3> davidh: Sorry, I don't know what you mean.
<0> JoshTriplett: It is because, kernel we get from network is already pre-compiled?
<3> davidh: make menuconfig lets you configure the kernel. You can configure the kernel to omit things like PCI hotplug support, and you'll stop seeing some of those messages.
<3> davidh: Yes, exactly.
<1> davidh: compiling kernels is not meant for endusers
<3> davidh: And it needs to work on any random machine a Debian user throws it at.
<3> davidh: With any random hardware.
<3> davidh: So it includes everything and the kitchen sink.
<0> JoshTriplett: I think that I get point
<0> I get the point (typo)
<0> JoshTriplett: More quesion
<3> davidh: Anyway, you have a tradeoff here: if the kernel told you less, you might find the boot process more attractive, but you might also miss something important. :)
<0> JoshTriplett: If I want to recompile the kernel myself, where do I find the source in the tree?
<0> Norammly in /usr/local/src/linux
<3> davidh: Debian will never install anything into /usr/local; that tree is reserved for you alone to play in.
<0> But not find it in debian distro by netinstall
<7> Question: i downloaded a dvd torrent... i have a pile of vob,bup,ifo,... files. what client can i use to have the interactove dvd stuff?
<3> davidh: You want to install the kernel-source-2.N.NN or linux-source-2.N.NN package.
<0> So the quesion is where is the source for debian after install?
<1> bono: you want to create a dvd image of this first
<3> davidh: (Older kernels use kernel-source-, newer ones use linux-source-)
<1> bono: xine, totem support dvd menus
<7> valdyn: but not withough the image?
<8> davith: u have to install it
<9> how do you have your fonts configured in X ?
<1> bono: right
<0> JoshTriplett: where the web site to download the source? and how do I know the source is corrwspond to the binary I am install?
<7> valdyn: hmmm... i dont have the necessary 4 gigs to make the image... could i use loopback mounting or something like that?
<1> bono: totem requires a real dvd, so that you burn it too, xine has a fancy switch to use dvd images
<10> hi everyone
<3> davidh: Type "apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.27"
<1> bono: no, loopback mounting is something totally different
<10> I'm trying to run uml under Etch with 2.6.8-2-386
<7> valdyn: ok... great stuff... but is there a way to avoid using an extra 4 gb?
<1> bono: nope
<0> JoshTriplett: I'll use aptitude (GUI) to get. But after that, where the source tree go?
<1> bono: oh, actually
<1> bono: you can burn the image directly like
<7> valdyn: i dont have a dvd burner...
<1> bono: then forget it
<10> I installed uml from debs, obtained a sarge image with debootstrap and created a resierfs fs but it's not working
<1> bono: you can still just view the vob files though
<3> davidh: /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.27.tar.bz2 , I think.
<7> valdyn: ok... say i dont want the fancy menus... what are the files i should open with mplayer/totem/xine? VOBs?
<3> bono: Yes.
<1> bono: yes
<3> davidh: Extract that in your home directory, and start configuring.
<10> i get stucked in the "VFS: Mounted root (reiserfs filesystem) readonly" message
<3> davidh: (You might also consider using a 2.6 kernel instead.)
<10> I've google around to find out what's wrong without luck and asked at #uml at OTFC without answer
<0> JoshTriplett: Yes. I like 2.6 kernel. But I heard that it is not very stable. There are some compatibility issue with Xwindows, tools chains
<10> here is an output of what I got: http://pastebin.com/742395
<3> davidh: Yes, that held true around 2.6.0; 2.6.16 is quite stable. :)
<10> any ideas?
<0> JoshTriplett: what is exactly the name of the package for 2.4 source? I could not find it?
<3> davidh: kernel-source-2.4.27
<3> davidh: Or just look for packages starting with "kernel-source" or "linux-source".
<3> davidh: .0 versions of anything often have issues, and newer releases fix those issues.
<11> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
<11> What package do I need...I got libx11-dev and x-dev
<0> JoshTriplett: Still not find the package in aptitude by search
<3> sid: apt-get install xorg-dev to get all of the X development packages at once.
<3> sid: configure often looks for libxt-dev for hysterical reasons, but it probably needs more than that.
<3> davidh: Nothing starting with either "kernel-source" or "linux-source".
<3> davidh: ?
<0> JoshTriplett: No
<3> davidh: Do you have apt configured to search the Internet, or the contents of a non-netinst CD?
<3> davidh: Could you paste sources.list to #flood?
<7> valdyn | JoshTriplett : sorry. mplayer made my x server crash :-)
<3> bono: Huh. Please report that as a bug on the X server.
<3> bono: Severity "important"; clients should never crash the server.
<0> JoshTriplett: what command to sources.list?
<3> bono: Any interesting error message in the X log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
<0> JoshTriplett: what path?
<3> davidh: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
<0> JoshTriplett: BTW, I am using netinstall
<3> davidh: I understand.
<12> hi
<7> JoshTriplett: hum... well the server didnt exacly crash... i have a dual card/dual screen setup and oen screen showed "sync out of range"
<3> bono: Ah.
<7> valdyn | JoshTriplett : thanks a lot for the help. its very much appreciated. one last q... the dvd files are mounted through samba... (10 mbit lan). mplayer drops frames and its display flickers... while totem displays the feed perfectly. whould you happen to know why?
<12> I need to use ubuntu liveCD to repair grub on my debian istallation , how i can login as root in ubuntu ?
<3> bono: I don't know. Did you perhaps run totem after mplayer? :)
<3> bono: If so, caching? :)
<7> JoshTriplett: i might have. why?
<7> hmmm
<7> JoshTriplett: samba does caching?
<7> lemme try another vob...
<3> bono: smbfs might.
<7> JoshTriplett: nope... new file, same thing
<3> bono: Strange.
<3> bono: Perhaps totem buffers up more of the file first.
<3> bono: Try mplayer -cache 1048576 foo.vob
<7> JoshTriplett: hmmm... wouldnt buffering affect the flickering stuff for so long? (till the buffer gets emptied)
<0> JoshTriplett: I find it now in search. Kernel-image-2.4.27.2-386
<3> bono: You might also try letting mplayer talk SMB directly.
<3> davidh: That's the image, not the source.
<7> JoshTriplett: maybe this could help... totem flickrs for the first few seconds and then starts rolling... it does sound like a buffering issue...
<7> JoshTriplett: how would i let mplayer talk to smb direcly?
<3> bono: mplayer smb://SERVER/share/thing.vob
<3> davidh: You need a kernel-source package.
<3> davidh: With that sources.list, you should have one available.
<13> just have a quickie here. Im running xubuntu and i notice my friends run debian, im guessing there is a reason they use debian over ubuntu.
<3> davidh: Could you paste the output of: apt-cache search kernel-source
<0> Anyone else know how to obtain kernel source for debian 2.4.27? Please help ; using aptitude
<14> apt-get source?
<15> how do i mount an ISO using loopback, i think?
<3> epsilon: apt-get install kernel-source-foo, actually.
<3> Alam_Debian: mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mount/point/directory
<14> hm, kinda off-topic: I want to present some large pictures on my website, for that I'm looking for public domain icons for "JPG" and "TIFF", is there any one?
<3> epsilon: I dunno about public domain, but you can find some Free Software icons for them in Debian.
<3> epsilon: Specifically, the ones GNOME or KDE use to designate them in file managers.
<14> hm, I probably need the entire GPL stuff on my site?
<14> I want to avoid any copyright/left info on the site...
<7> Question: is it possible to burn a dvd from remotely-located (samba) dvd files (vobs and stuff) ?
<14> not recommended
<7> (i.e. is 10bit enough to sustain the dvd burning rate?)
<7> 10mbit
<14> "NO"
<7> thx :-)
<3> epsilon: Most of the icons serve as their own source, and many include their license status as image comments, so you wouldn't actually incur any obligations by using them.
<16> hi, is there a virtual machine like vmware for linux?
<3> Bitz: Several.
<3> Bitz: Try qemu.
<14> JoshTriplett: ok, I gonna take a look on them
<16> which is the best one?
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