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<0> ken: 4 harddisks for 100$? where? especially with the controller
<1> valdyn: oops, indeed, it shouldn't come back
<2> wols_: used ;-)
<3> wols_: i buy hard drives in bulk orders of 20 +
<4> Quibus: that is probably your error
<3> wols_: you get a hell of a lot better deal when doing so
<2> wols_: although if you're interested in the controller, you can have mSATA_pci card (sil3114) for $45
<5> hello, is there a place where I could find a netboot version of the debian-installer for sarge for newer kernels which do not include devfs anymore? Thanks.
<1> valdyn: um, how? I think I just used a normal feature
<2> wols_: that card has infiniband connector out the back
<6> ken: how cheap do sata drives get in 20+?
<0> eeyore-: one can get a cheap ide controller for 20
<7> !tell damien__ about sarge uni
<4> Quibus: rm ~/.gnome2/session ~/.gnome2/sessions-manual will clear your session
<2> wols_: well, yeah, but it's not infiniband :-)
<3> wols_: hardware raid controllers are much more expensive than software raid -- i have almost ... 50 terrabytes of storage here on our netwokr
<1> valdyn: back to etch default session?
<4> Quibus: yea
<1> valdyn: that's not so handy, I loose all my setup stuff
<8> damien__: if you need normal device names you can also try to create symlinks
<0> ken: i didn't say anything about raid. just "ide"
<3> wols_: heh
<8> damien__: s/device/device names/
<1> valdyn: note that I don't have sessions-manual
<9> hiya guys im looking for a decent way to backup my server to another remote server via ftp
<9> any ideas?
<3> wols, eeyore: thanks for you help, it's much appreciated --
<10> any of you guys run skype?
<3> laters
<2> ken: no prob
<11> Nick0r, yeah use rsync
<1> valdyn: and there's nothing weird in my session file
<9> that works with ftp?
<9> hmm
<12> NickOr, forget about ftp if you can. SSH over rsync is good way to go.
<13> MadRush, Yes, why?
<4> Quibus: something in there is failing to start
<9> rezzen, I can't - my backup space only offfers FTP
<2> wols_: you want to build some raid array yourself? :-)
<10> and you have no problems running it? it tells me it cant find libpng12.so.0, but it's where it should be on my system
<0> eeyore-: if you give me the money: sure! :)
<2> haha
<1> valdyn: the splash says "GNOME terminal" (which is what I added before it went wrong), but those terminals appear nicely
<0> I was just wondering about his price figure which I still don't believe
<5> nn-: I need to use a custom kernel (I have compiled one) but the installer complains about "no devfs support in kernel"
<13> MadRush, yes, in sid w/o problems
<2> we should be getting the gigabyte i-ram add on card today. 4GB DIMMs, has SATA port, so you can treat the 4GB as a SATA drive
<2> nifty
<10> Did you have the problem im having, as well?
<13> MadRush, do you have the package for linpng installed?
<0> eeyore-: speed still ****s :(
<10> yep
<0> MadRush: there is more than one libpng, there's at least 1.2 and 1.3
<2> wols_: well, it'd be pretty darn near full SATA speed
<10> yep i know, skype is looking for 1.2
<2> wols_: without the software driver, or motherboard limitations
<0> eeyore-: and how fast is your DDRAM? see my point? :)
<2> wols_: motherboard is already maxed out, can't have more ram
<1> valdyn: so, it's weird
<10> and ive got 1.2, libpng12.so.0 is where it should be according to packages.debian.org
<12> NickOr, you can use rdist to list all files that have changed since Xhours ago, and then automatically ftp those files to your ftp space.
<0> eeyore-: I mean that the connection from the i-ram to your PC is a big bottleneck
<2> wols_: i see the point, but unless we're willing to go with 32GB mainboard (we're not), this will have to do ;-)
<4> MadRush: 'file /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0' and 'ldd /path/to/skype | grep png' and 'file /path/to/skype'
<0> MadRush: look there. there's a way to search for it. use it!
<9> hmm rezzen, I'm looking for a solution that does most the work for me ;)
<12> (after replicating everything to your ftp space.)
<10> alrighty
<0> eeyore-: i-arm != more ram. totally different things
<2> wols_: *besides*, i keep telling the engineer that the problem is *most likely* not the speed
<2> wols_: don't you think i know that?
<12> NickOr, i wouldn't suggest doing it manually. schedule a nightly rdist/ftp transfer.
<0> eeyore-: well, I want actually something else from such a beast: instant on without tedious hdd loads
<9> mmm ;/
<12> NickOr, ftp uploads can be auto-mated.
<0> eeyore-: or instant app load (being a desktop user: GAMES :))
<11> wwhats that i-ram card. pci 33mhz bus?
<5> abrotman: dpkg tells "sarge unofficial netinstallers see <sarge 2.6.12>", but "see" where?
<2> wols_: i'm pretty sure that the long link time is just that. compute-bound, not i/o-bound.
<7> damien__: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.12
<0> EdibleText: I think yes. but PCI-E started to appear too, just not from gigabyte
<12> but you don't want transfer all your data every night. (maybe you do, if you don't have a large amt of data)
<2> wols_: and it's pretty hard to improve upon compute-bound jobs
<0> eeyore-: more CPUs! :) of course then comes that pesky amdahl guy...
<5> abrotman: silly me :D
<7> of course :)
<10> hey lookie - ERROR: cannot open `/usr/lib/libpng.so.0' (No such file or directory)
<5> abrotman: ;)
<2> EdibleText: it doesn't talk over PCI bus. it only plugs into PCI for power. talks over SATA port.
<14> hi
<0> MadRush: so is there a /usr/lib/linpng.so.0"?
<10> but if i 'find / -name libpng12.so.0' it finds it
<10> according to file, no there isnt. according to find, there is..
<2> EdibleText: basically solid-state disks
<0> libpng12.so != libpng.so. can't you read?
<4> MadRush: libpng.so.0 != libpng12.so.0
<4> hah
<0> valdyn: type faster :P
<10> right, no i cant read :)
<0> valdyn: of course you make less typos, so it all evens out :)
<4> !find libpng.so.0 sarge
<0> MadRush: look what package if any provide libpng.so on pdo
<0> then install that
<15> Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libpng.so.0' returned no results.
<10> will do
<16> hi, which mpm user flag should i use and whats the advantage / dissadvantage mpm-prefork or mpm-worker?
<11> eeyore-, .. ah i follow
<0> MadRush: you can _try_ (no guarantee to symlink libpng12.so (or 13.so to libpng.so
<10> i was thinking i might have to do that
<0> and stop using ****ty binary only software from outside debian :)
<11> eeyore-, so its limeted but the sata bandwidth
<0> what is that program that needs that certain libpng?
<11> but/by
<0> EdibleText: yes. the pci-e 1.x are slightly faster I think
<5> abrotman: unfortunately, he doesn't give the netboot.tar.gz version :-/
<11> eeyore-, pci for power.. ? odd why not just use the power directly from the PS
<0> EdibleText: cause PCI is enough and it's a good place to put the card
<17> evilbulgarian: "worker" is much faster. PHP is not threadsafe, though, and practically requires the use of the older, slower "prefork".
<9> hiya guys im looking for a decent way to backup my server to another remote server via ftp
<2> EdibleText: well, it also has to have room to mount the four DIMM sticks, so all told, the PCI format is probably "better". solves two problems at once.
<17> Nick0r: The easiest way is to use gtar + ssh
<2> EdibleText: without the PCI format, they would have to design custom carrier to be mounted somewhere ... this involves tooling
<9> i don't have ssh access
<2> EdibleText: and tooling ain't cheap :-)
<9> well I do on one box, but I have to upload to the other one using FTP
<18> so its a superfast 4gb hd , or so?
<2> ebible: however, making PCI card is fairly trivial, and needs no special tooling
<17> Nick0r: Then make the tarball, exclude it from the files to be tarred, and then ftp it :p
<19> I'm running Debian Sid, and am trying to get a USB 2.0 m*** storage device (HDD based mp3 player to be specific) to work properly... everything seems to detect high speed/ehci/Spd=480/etc, however when actually transferring files it seems to happen at USB 1 speeds... transfer speed is great when used from WinXP
<10> alright- i failed to mention im on a amd64 box, it looks like my libpng.so.0 is a symlink, you think thats the problem?
<10> er sorry my libpng12.so.0
<19> any obvious way to get the speed up to proper USB 2.0 high speed?
<20> Nick0r: you can create an ssh tunnel, ssh -L 21600:ftp.destination.com:21, and ftp localhost:21600 with the destination user and login
<20> I means ssh -L 21600:ftp.destination.com:21 yourhost
<20> or something like that :P
<9> :/
<12> NickOr, if you're looking for someone to actually do it for you, you're not gonna find that here.
<12> NickOr, you can use most ftp clients to upload your data on a scheduled basis.
<12> what to upload? well, first time you'll want to upload all user and sysmtem-conf data. (/etc/, /var/, /home/) You may want to exclude /var/log. After the first sync, then use rdist to upload changed/new files every N hours.
<12> some simple scripting will be involved. i don't know of anything off the shelf.
<0> ncftpput can do it all automatically with a single line from console (or script)
<21> I've got a radeon 9200 and my xorg (6.9.0) enters some infinite loop after a short time of using 3D, I've read that downgrading to 6.8 can help, but I cannot find it, any pointers/other suggestions?
<22> hello, here is a message i got after having an upgrade from the libc6 failed => mv: error while loading shared libraries: libacl.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied
<22> (i'm root)
<23> hi
<0> hello
<0> zed: I'd upgrade "manually" again with dpkg
<22> if i manage to get the package :)
<24> hello, i'm running xfs as my font server, while xlsfonts shows all the chinese ttf are ready, why in my Kde, chinese file names still can't be displayed ??
<17> Skiver: xfs doesn't do truetype.
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