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<0> xstation: we're all about mailing lists, if you don't like forums.debian.net you should see lists.debian.org
<1> xstation: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianResources
<1> heh, I should probably get more into mailiing lists. Usually when I'm looking for answers they can be found thee
<0> literally hundreds of lists. the one you're looking for is probably debian-user@lists.debian.org
<2> peter5/menko: thanks I will try milkman mailing list
<3> !milkman
<4> moin moin
<5> greets
<6> moin to you too LinusX
<6> ;)
<5> gnu'nornin
<4> kann man hier deutsch schreiben?
<7> !de
<8> Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de
<0> nicht hier
<4> oh thx oki cu
<9> hello all,
<9> once ipsec is installed, shouldn't there be a folder like /proc/net/ipsec ?
<9> or /proc/sys/net/ipsec ?
<10> okay the kernel update is now successful with yaird, the next/last thing which doesnt work is the update for nfs-common on sid/x86: "Stopping NFS common utilities:invoke-rc.d: initscript nfs-common, action "restart" failed." has anyone a solution?
<5> i guess modconf, update-modules, and such elude my concepts. i modprobed a module. then ran update-modules. after that i check with modconf if there was a "+" sign next to it. yes there was. on reboot the module isn't loaded. wtf?
<11> kreg_work: only modules in /etc/modules are loaded
<11> same like if you set up your eth interface with ifconfig manually and then wonder why it won't work aftetr a reboot
<5> how come the module loaded with modprobe didn't reload after i ran update-modules?
<12> using module-init-tools?
<5> something else must be doing other stuff, because there are tons of modules not in /etc/modules that are loading
<11> update-modules is an obsolete command. In its current form it will execute /sbin/update-modules.modutils (the old update-modules
<11> program provided by the modutils package) if it exists and do nothing else.
<5> trying to learn how the heck to manage modules in debian
<11> the modules in there might be loaded by discover automatically
<0> kreg_work: most of the confusion stems from two incompatible module systems - the old one for kernels 2.0, 2.2, 2.4, the new one for kernel 2.6
<5> is that why i get a 30second "calculating modules deps" durring boot?
<12> 30seconds? haha
<13> hi
<5> p1 200mhz
<5> old
<0> kreg_work: the old one is modutils which uses update-modules and /etc/modutils/*. the new one is module-init-tools which does *not* require update-modules - it uses /etc/modprobe.d/*
<12> it's much much faster on my PII 333MHz
<14> hi all
<5> jm_ >: )
<13> do you know a encrypted peer2peer ? I dont remember the name of one I knew ... free something ...
<0> kreg_work: "calculating module deps" is needed for both systems, but really it's only needed at kernel install time. doing it at boot time is just sort of an extra just-in-case thing
<15> Should i go suPHP or suExec for my apache2/php5-cgi/mysql-server5 installation ?
<12> kreg_work: ahh wait, you're using Debian kernel, right?
<14> ?
<5> jm_, ya. 2.5
<5> er
<5> 2.4
<5> sarge
<12> kreg_work: right, that one has a lot of modules, so it takes time - I use a custom kernel
<5> what's running the calc mod deps durring boot?
<12> one of the /etc/init.d scripts
<0> kreg_work: /etc/rcS.d/S20modutils
<5> k
<12> possibly modutils in your case
<16> hey guys, am i right in thinking that i can install sendmail, and not configure any of it to run as a mailserver and use the /usr/sbin/sendmail file to sendmail as a MTA? i.e. locally on the box do sendmail -t for example and send a mail?
<5> ok. well that must be determing what modules need loading, becaues i can't find a conf listing the modules that end up being loaded each boot
<16> or would i need to configure it, despite me not wanting to run it as a mailserver for external access?
<5> like somekind of debina "kudzu" or something
<14> hi al
<12> kreg_work: no, that's basically generating modules.dep file
<0> kreg_work: there are several such systems, doing slightly different things. that's a confusing point in itself.
<14> how can i create FIFO file in debian?
<12> Fox_1_: in shell or what?
<0> kreg_work: there is /etc/modules, a static list of modules *you* want installed. there is 'discover', and 'hotplug', and modern versions of 'udev', which all do some form of hardware detection
<16> Fox_1_, man mknod
<5> ok i'll try to forget the messages in 2.4 and previous
<14> how can i create FIFO file in debian?
<5> er module methods in 2.4 and <
<17> Fox_1_: mkfifo
<7> Fox_1_, mknod <fifo-filename> p
<14> hi
<14> does anyone here?
<7> yes I do :-)
<14> how can i create FIFO file in linux?
<18> to make sure a module does not load do you prefix it with "-" in the modules file?
<12> row: man modules
<19> Fox_1_: apropos fifo
<20> hi there how do I clean the debs db from the version of the custom kernel I have removed?
<21> !beer
<8> beer is, like, liquid gold mate
<16> hmm, i'm trying to send a test mail sendmail -v email@address.com but it just hangs, when i strace it, it hangs on read(0, ... after it queries the dns server and doesioctl(0, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...}) =
<18> jm_: that really says feck all.
<21> !apt search libstdc++.so.2.8
<22> hi guys
<12> row: you're wrong
<21> brain fade, how do I ask the bots to tell me where I find libstdc++.so.2.8
<12> !tell gnufan2 -about search
<23> whats the script i need to edit to upgrade from stable to testing?
<24> Trent-: /etc/apt/sources.list
<23> thanks
<24> Trent-: but beware, you cannot go back
<23> with the security updates, i change them to testing ro right?
<24> yes, I think so
<24> hrm, wait
<24> !testing security
<8> [testing security] Don't use http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/, but see http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/, ask me about <secure-testing-master apt-key>
<25> heh. testing is more stable than anyone elses prod releases
<23> so update the security downloads to testing?
<26> hi
<24> Trent-: read the link
<23> i guess not :P
<26> how can i message a person who log into my server with ssh, via pts/2
<7> d4t2ilL4, if mesg is "y" (enabled): write <username> [<tty>]
<26> ttly
<26> he is in ssh so its pts/2
<7> d4t2ilL4, I think, it doesn't matter, try `write user pts/2`
<26> yes okie thanks
<26> figured it out
<27> hi boys
<27> I have this problem:
<27> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
<27> I can't resolve, anyone have a Idea?
<28> messia, perhaps if you p***ted the commandline you used to try the connect. but it sounds like you are using a socket like a host since it shoudnt need to resolve a socet
<27> sep I use /etc/init.d/mysql start
<12> netstat will tell you where it listens on
<12> or lsof
<29> is it possible to install debain through a IDE pci card?
<30> !find /usr/lib/libxml2.so
<8> Debian Search of '/usr/lib/libxml2.so' (1): (/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libxml2.so.2.6.23) in libdevel/libxml2-dbg.
<29> if someone know how to pm me
<30> er. What does that mean I have to install?
<12> Malagmyr: it told you ...
<30> I know... I just don't quite understand what it's saying.
<12> libxml2
<29> how can i make debian find my HDD trough a IDE card?
<31> modprobe ide-detect
<29> nn- where should i write that? at identify hardware?
<31> Werl^work: are you currently installing debian?
<12> no, he's installing debain
<29> ya, i just started i get stuck at identyfing the hardrive
<32> i want to test my server install. is there a way how to generate large volume of emails and send it through the mail server?
<33> !seen grey
<8> grey <~grey@toronto-HSE-ppp4309274.sympatico.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 362d 5h 39m 49s ago, saying: 'What's the fastest easiest way to get a new kernel installed on debian? I got the 2.6.8 source tree downloaded, but do I have to extract, make menuconfig etc. etc.?'.
<34> can anyone point me to the documentation where it describes each ISO package for sarge i386?
<12> ISO package?
<33> the !seen doesn't seem to be very accurate
<34> jm_: yes, the downloadable ISOs
<12> xfrye: I have no idea what you mean with package
<29> nn- what should i write in that window something module stuff at indentifying hardware?
<31> Werl^work: I am not an expert on the installer.. do have the latest version?
<35> Talnakh_, not really as part of the load is DNS lookups of arbitary addresses
<29> nn- ya, i thinks so
<34> jm_: The ISO images used to install debian sarge
<35> Talnakh_, you could send a load of stuff to a set of tame test addresses I suppose
<12> xfrye: what do you want to know about them?
<36> so lads
<32> vorsprung, what do you mean?
<31> Werl^work: maybe you should switch to a terminal and ensure the ide-modules are loaded correctly
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