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<0> weissi: uh, that's what he's asking about
<1> weissi: I know mine can... I'm asking about Radius_Vector's :-)
<2> Wyzard: Sadly I dont have USB disks with such a high capacity.. :(
<3> Radius_Vector: no floppy either?
<4> Wyzard, peterS: I'm sorry!
<5> X fails to start. I have an Nvidia GeForce6800. Using the 'nv' driver. Would anyone be kind enough to help me get X working? Thanks.
<2> liable: I got a 128m flash disk, if that helps.
<1> Radius_Vector: You can use that
<2> Wyzard: But my ISO is 4.3 GB!
<0> Radius_Vector: the USB disk version of the installer is less than that, I think
<1> Radius_Vector: Well, you won't be using that iso
<6> kreg_work: /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian.gz <-- has the info you want btw
<3> Radius_Vector: no net on the laptop?
<0> Radius_Vector: you'll need to get the rest via the network - I hope your laptop has a network connection
<2> liable:Got net but I just downloaded this thing using jigdo, stupid me I guess.
<1> Radius_Vector: The way Debian's USB-boot installer works is that you put the special bootable image on the device, then mount it and put an iso on it, and when you boot it, it'll loop-mount the iso and run the installer from within it
<5> Can anyone see this?
<3> joseph: yes
<7> josep: is it supported by the nv driver you're using?
<1> Radius_Vector: You can use the netinst or businesscard iso (both are less than 100MB) with that flash drive
<2> Wyzard:Great, thanks.
<0> Wyzard: the netinst is over 100 MB last I checked, but not much over, it'll fit on the 128 MB disk
<1> Radius_Vector: You did waste a lot of time downloading the DVDs with jigdo, though :-)
<5> jm_: Yes I believe it's supported.
<7> joseph: how did you check?
<2> Wyzard: Oh yes :(
<1> peterS: ah, sorry... close enough though :-)
<3> actually, think theres provision to use an iso with a usb disk install.
<5> jm_: On other distributions, with the 'nv' driver, X works fine on this PC.
<1> liable: Yeah, that's how it works -- it boots, loop-mounts the iso, and runs the installer within
<7> joseph: other distributions might have newer version of the driver - is it nv4x? are you using Sarge?
<1> liable: You can't do a USB-disk install *without* putting an iso on the USB disk
<0> Radius_Vector: as for the iso, if you have another unix/linux server, you can probably loopback-mount the iso on that machine and serve it via HTTP and use that to install, so as not to waste all that bandwidth again. if you want to go to that much trouble.
<8> hi
<5> jm_: I'm not sure what is meant by nv4x, how do I check? I think I'm using Sarge--that's 3.1 stable right?
<3> Wyzard: yeah you can. i have done it. you just need the install kernel and initrd
<1> liable: btw, lm-profiler is a shell script which does something involving /proc/sys/vm/block_dump
<3> Wyzard: running it now :)
<1> The comments call it "disk access profiling"
<8> i need help installing the nvidia vga and nvidia nforce drivers on my debian amd64 system
<7> joseph: it's an identifier used by Nvidia, use lspci to find out - yes, that's stable and it doesn't support nv4x chips, but Nvidia's driver does
<9> is there any pdf converter to html?
<9> for example to convert, pdf to html
<6> cat: pdftohtml - Translates pdf documents into html format
<4> cat: `apt-cache search pdftohtml
<4> `
<5> jm_: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0045 (rev a1)
<0> better yet, apt-cache search pdf html convert
<6> you need to learn howto search :)
<0> then you don't have to already know the package name
<7> joseph: run update-pciids
<1> hmm... apparently my disk accesses occurring every 5 seconds are due to "md0_raid1"
<6> apt-cache search pdf | grep html also work
<7> josep: but as you can see, it's 6800GT
<6> s
<1> Why is my array performing disk activity every five seconds when it's in sync and there are no processes reading or writing from it?
<5> jm_: Okay I trust you. I ran that command even though I have no idea what it did to my system.
<6> never run a command if you have no idea of what it does.
<5> oops
<5> format/reinstall?
<7> Wyzard: default commit interval is 5s for ext3
<1> jm_: Even if there's nothing to commit?
<0> Wyzard: there's almost always access time updates
<3> mount noatime?
<1> jm_: (and I'm using reiser, not ext3, but presumably the same principle applies)
<0> Wyzard: unless you mount with 'noatime' as liable just said
<6> joseph: I am sure the cmd he gave you would not do that but still.
<7> Wyzard: yes, it runs periodically, there often is if you mount it with atime (default)
<6> unwise move.
<10> If I have control over the mysql server, Is it possible to gain a shell?
<1> hmm... but the profile info written to dmesg shows lots of WRITE, but not a single READ
<6> BR_W: "mysql:x:105:106:MySQL Server,,,:/var/lib/mysql:/bin/false"
<5> jm_: I ran lspci again and it said something different about the nvidia card in my system.
<5> jm_: It now correctly identifies the model.
<7> joseph: that's why I told you to run update-pciids
<5> jm_: Sorry I'm slow.
<10> row, and what about something like a shell?
<1> though maybe all the "dirtied inode" messages indicate atime updates
<5> X log still says "(EE) No devices detected" though...
<7> that's because your nv driver still doesn't support it ;)
<5> jm_: Yea I kinda thought so. Would you mind giving me another hint?
<7> joseph: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner
<5> I did not receive that message.
<7> did you ask dpkg to tell you?
<5> Sorry, how do I do that?
<7> I just told you how
<5> Okay thanks
<5> This is for the nvidia binary driver
<7> yes
<5> Debian stable does not have an 'nv' driver that supports my video card?
<5> (or did you already tell me that 2 times?)
<11> howdy
<7> no, unless you use X.org from backports
<5> Is backports a repository
<5> ?
<7> or if someone still has XFree86 release from sid backported to Sarge later on
<1> peterS, jm_: Nifty, remounting everything with noatime makes the periodic disk access go away -- thanks :-)
<0> Wyzard: too bad I didn't remember that originally. it's a very well known thing.
<7> Wyzard: not sure why it bothers you
<5> I'll just do the nvidia binary thanks for helping
<11> ok, im installing on a laptop (toshiba satellite 210CDT(Sarge)) and i get a hang when it tries to load the yenta socket, anyone have any ideas on how to work around this?
<7> yes, /msg dpkg backports
<1> jm_: It doesn't really... it's just useful to know
<3> Hordex: try expert26 at boot prompt and dont load pcmcia ****s
<0> Wyzard: btw, noatime means you can't tell when someone last accessed a file. this is usually not that important, but it screws up those programs that want to know "has the user read his mail since he last got any?"
<11> ok, that takes a fairly long time to install everything. ill keep you updated if i have any probs ;)
<6> is there a method of adding a mount point in fstab, but have it mount only after the pci drivers have been started etc, I have a sata card but the driver for it is loaded after fstab is checked so the mount point is never mounted at boot?
<0> Wyzard: as well as the popularity-contest package, which wants to know whether you actually use any of the stuff you have installed
<5> I have another question, before doing the nvidia one-liner. From Debian stable packages, which kernel should I use on this Intel P4?
<1> jm_: What I'm really trying to troubleshoot is what seems like a reduction in disk performance since a few years ago... it seems like the system is sluggish when there's lots of disk activity going on, even though DMA is enabled, and I thought maybe these 5-second accesses were somehow related to that
<3> row: put the module in /etc/modules? dunno if those are loaded before mountall.
<6> liable: k
<11> Ah, so that means no PCMCIA?
<12> if your ex is making out with someone in front of you, and the guy is doign it because he's a) to stupid b) is tryign to piss me off, do you think id be justified in cutting his achilles tendon and watchign him flop around liek a fish out of water
<7> josep: apt-cache search kernel p4
<3> row: should actually.
<13> liable: it is. modules is S20, mountall is S35
<13> only root is mounted first I think
<11> i have an ethernet card for my network, will i still be able to use that?
<3> wols_: yeah, just read that :)
<0> Hordex: pcmcia? not sure. the thing is, pcmcia really means two different things - 16-bit and 32-bit. they are totally different, they just happen to use the same slots. don't know if disabling the one also disables the other.
<0> Hordex: modern ethernet cards should be 32-bit, also known as 'cardbus'
<0> the pcmcia that causes most of the trouble is the legacy 16-bit mode
<11> cool well i guess wel soon find out, oh what components should i load? i have the install discs(1 trhough7) should i use baseconfig-udeb?
<0> yeah you want baseconfig
<11> kool
<14> Bye Folks
<3> Hordex: if you got the discs, you dont need net connection to install.
<7> the joy of advanced mode ;)
<7> or expert
<11> i know, i was just wondering for later on
<3> Hordex: once you install see what happens when you insert the card.
<11> just as long as it doesent go BANG im happy
<15> any one know the origins of this problem
<15> im getting a kernel panic after recompiling my kernel
<15> it sais it cant find /dev/console
<7> blafd: read the screen before that to find out - typically caused by not being able to mount rootfs
<11> I tried slackware last night but the boot loader decided not to work and i dont have any floppies on hand
<5> jm_: Alright, I have identified 18 possible kernel matches.
<7> joseph: right, you can trivially exclude some
<11> oh what boot loader do you guys prefer? grub or lilo?
<0> Hordex: grub unless you know you have specific needs
<0> Hordex: lilo may still have one or two advantages but they are obscure ones if so
<3> Hordex: grub is default nowadays and generally a good choice
<15> it sais
<15> unknown file system type
<15> mount failed
<7> yeah
<15> nice and criptical style
<11> i really need to get my power connection fixed....
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