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<0> unfo: even if i mount them all at once id still need one loopback device per cd
<1> unfo, why worry? -o is fine. im a 2nd year community college student and its a tiny rev.
<1> kspath, why worry? -o is fine. im a 2nd year community college student and its a tiny rev.
<0> unfo: and i found a workaround
<2> marcel__, probably your best bet would be to use alien to convert the rpm's
<3> i need to setup a printerserver, what other software can i use than cups?
<1> starfishy, all im saying is your trying to do something complex, and i personally sometimes avoid doing that kind of stuff. :)
<3> cups is too memory consuming and that box is too weak for that
<0> unfo: im just going to do it in a VM
<2> mrverbose, uh...samba can share your printers...if that's what you mean
<0> unfo: its my job to do complex things :)
<1> ok :)
<3> markybob: no, i need some small and simple lpd
<0> unfo: and if i dont push the limits every day im not going to stay sharp
<4> unfo: there is a rcs -u and there is co -f -u to look into
<1> starfishy, can i ask, are you a sysadmin or something?



<0> unfo: the workaround is doing it in a VM and having all the CDs mounted as 'physical CDs'
<0> unfo: i dont really know what i am
<1> starfishy, on windows there are "storage servers" that do everything for u, that they use in internet cafes and stuff
<0> unfo, i am supposed to be a technical instructor but i do develop, admin, plan and scheme :D
<1> haha
<0> unfo: the only people using windows in this organization are the sales guys
<4> unfo: a simple option is just co 1.15 and replace it with modified contents of 1.15 and ci again?
<4> unfo: a simple option is just co 1.15 and replace it with modified contents of 1.14 and ci again?
<0> wow, it takes forever to create a 12GB virtual disk
<1> starfishy, so in other words ur a trainer who is branching out into other stuff.
<5> !ur
<6> Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old
<4> unfo: sorry, a little braino.
<2> abrotman, no!
<0> unfo: in other words i am the one who does everything the others can't do :)
<5> markybob: but i actually have work to do :)
<2> abrotman, i guess that's a valid excuse ;)
<7> abrotman, mounting the partitions in the installer shell worked just fine last night ~ thanks for your help!!
<5> markybob: well .. kind of anyways
<1> starfishy, i know vmware has a plain disk format and a compressed one.
<8> abrotman: hey -- btw, platforms are up, and on -vote, discussion is going on
<5> curt: it totally worked?
<1> of course vmw is closed source.
<7> abrotman, absolutely
<5> jvw: discussion?
<5> curt: not bad for a guess eh? :)
<8> abrotman: DPL election discussion
<5> jvw: i saw a few round-ups on planet.d.n
<4> unfo: basically co 1.15 overwrite it with full modified version from 1.14 and ci 1.15 and wham you have 1.16 note this is partially from man pages and memory
<5> jvw: discussion where?
<8> abrotman: -vote -- debian-vote@lists.debian.org
<5> jvw: ah .. gotcha
<7> abrotman, remind me never to delete/move /lib again...
<5> jvw: i thought you meant #debian-vote
<1> kspath, hey that makes the most sense of all. i think i'll do that once i tear my fingers away from irc. :)
<8> doesn't exist ttbomk
<5> curt: afaik .. that should always be attached to / anyways
<5> jvw: it did after i joined it :)
<9> !fhs
<6> i guess fhs is the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard and is at http://www.pathname.com/fhs/, or included in the debian-policy package
<10> abrotman: did you made it in jvw's DPL DreamTeam?
<5> chealer: i'm on someone's dream team?
<4> is it phalanges or meta-carpels or whatever?
<0> unfo: btw, what i am working on right now is integrating x CDs from $UNNAMED_DISTRIBUTION and $UNNAMED_DISTRIBUTION_SERVICE_PACK into a DVD and I am hoping to get around actually unpacking the ISOs
<5> jvw: my concern with a team is that it would end up like the FBSD core team
<10> abrotman: who knows. it could help you to become the next DPL. you know, even Ari may come close to being DPL
<5> chealer: i think i'm missing a very important requirement to be a DPL
<1> starfishy, you said SERVICE_PACK. you mean Windows?
<0> unfo: no, but close
<0> SLES :(
<1> lol
<0> every day i have to work with RHEL and SLES I thank the gods of computing that i dont have to run that stuff in my own network
<1> haha. i guess it'd be more work to just order a DVD?
<8> abrotman: I don't know about FBSD core team, but here the team will basicly have a clear leader, so it won't *hurt* in any case
<5> starfishy: at least it's not made by SCO :)
<10> resiak: see -devel-announce
<0> unfo: there is no SLES9 DVD
<10> resiak: oops, it was planet.d.o



<8> resiak: http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/platforms
<0> abrotman: yeah, you are right, it could be worse ;)
<5> jvw: the core team was more elitist than the rest of FBSD :)
<9> aces, just found it independently; thanks :)
<1> starfishy: oh. i feel sorry for you.
<10> abrotman: but you could team up with tarzeau! :)
<11> !POPCON
<6> popcon is, like, the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff
<5> chealer: last i checked .. i can't be DPL
<11> chealer: you join too?
<10> tarzeau: hey :)
<10> tarzeau: sure!! :)
<11> abrotman: we be TEH MAN!?
<0> unfo: at least i get paid for this...
<5> tarzeau: we're on a team?
<11> abrotman: of course we are!
<10> finally, I can see Debian's essential problems being fixed!
<10> why not #debian for DPL?
<12> maybe a blotbot for dpl?
<1> starfishy, :)
<13> say i compiled a kernel, my way, with a few patches that i want... it runs the system just fine. how do i get apt to recognize that it's present??
<14> for witch one should i go to setup postfix http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ or http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ ?
<4> unfo: thanks for getting me motivated to play with rcs again.
<15> waxbolt: compile it with kernel-package
<12> waxbolt: build it with make-kpkg, /msg dpkg kp
<10> stew: oooh :) that beat jvw's attempt to fix #debian
<13> wols, that's absurd...
<13> wols, why isn't it enough to follow the typical linux source symlink in /usr/src ?
<12> waxbolt: what typical source symlink?
<5> stew: abotman ?
<15> cause a kernel image is not a debian package, duh!
<12> heh
<16> hi
<17> can some body help me
<15> apt can only know about installed .deb packages
<18> abrotman: the core team is just a collection of people who do the work, or people who have been doing the work in the past and know how the work should be done.
<15> and it doesn't matter if you run "make" or if you run "make-kpkg" is it?
<4> !tell sithi about ask
<17> thanks, i am a newbie
<18> waxbolt: if you want to compile your own kernel, use make-kpkg instead.
<16> gnome behaves strangely with application names in the bottom, if they are longer than the button on the taskbar, the name gets over the next button on its right
<1> kspath, np, i didnt know it'd make you happy. :) also see the tool upd, from the Duffgrams web page.
<16> how can i make gnome not do that?
<16> and wrap app names to the button
<5> dondelelcaro: which core team? FBSD or debian?
<17> i am just looking for .deb based multi path routing patch
<4> sithi: Just ask the question. If no one answers wait some time maybe 10-30 minutes and ask again. VERY dependent on channel traffic.
<18> abrotman: Debian; (well, whatever you're calling the core team)... I've no clue about free bsd.
<19> hi, what package do I need to install gecko-sdk?
<18> 'course, in Debian, saying the core team is really a misnomer; we don't have such a thing.
<12> TINCT?
<5> from what i can gather from jvw's email announcing Scud .. seems it would be a few people as sort of a Vice-DPL .. but could the team overrule a decision made by the DPL?
<18> abrotman: no.
<13> dondelelcaro, stew, i don't have another 10 hours to recompile again... why isn't there a more direct way. dpkg is just a hack, and certainly not a complex one...
<18> waxbolt: eh? surely you jest.
<15> waxbolt: running it again takes around 5 min max
<20> hey i just found a bug in apache. bad!
<18> abrotman: they would only be a advisory committee; they have no power over decisions that the DPL makes.
<5> dondelelcaro: so basically a support team implementing his decisions/goals ?
<15> it's the same as if you'd run "make" again
<8> abrotman: exactly
<18> abrotman: or helping to advise the decisions
<4> justletters: report it!
<13> dondelelcaro, on a 300MHz machine with < 32 mb ram it can take a long time
<5> dondelelcaro: and they can like .. stage a coup if they want? :)
<18> abrotman: no.
<5> hehe
<15> waxbolt: not if you just compiled it
<18> abrotman: which is pretty much what happens already, since no one developer knows how all bits of Debian operates...
<15> waxbolt: and simply recompile
<13> wols, ahh... my distrust of debian is subsiding...
<5> would there be ... sort of .. posts? ex: jvw is elected DPL and he names dondelelcaro the team member responsible for the NM activities?
<8> abrotman: that could be possible, yes


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