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<0> ryness: gnomemeeting then?
<1> ryness, you'll never do that, it was named gnomemeeting in the version of gnome that ships with sarge
<2> beardy, it's still not in debian
<3> from what i see gnomemeeting requires 23MB of gnome libs.
<1> dli: http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
<4> can somebody point me at a x-window config file for dual monitors?
<4> just for something to look off of?
<5> Hi I am a new debian user, i have amarok 1.2.3 on kde3.3.2, how can i upgrade my amarok app
<6> kriel: http://archimedes.ucr.edu/ss/xorg.conf
<7> apt-get install update amarok
<8> friedl, ???
<7> th1: yes my dear?
<0> friedl: Stop using dpkg to install packages, until you have to do that, and you'll know or be told if you ever have to do that. ONLY USE APT-GET or APTITUDE to install packages.
<4> dondelelcaro, thankies
<5> friedl: that does not work
<7> but how the f**k am i going to install that only program to change kdm so I can change a god damn theme.. :S



<0> friedl: Is the package in Debian?
<0> friedl: Calm down now.
<8> friedl, its not "apt-get install update amarok"
<7> ok
<8> dont confuse the noobs
<1> friedl, also, don't *ever* mix sarge with testing/unstable
<9> boy really
<0> And don't give advice if you don't know what tou are talking about.
<9> boy really
<0> heh
<9> I have done both and regretted it.
<7> guys could you please just guide me through how to install that program please.
<8> lol]
<5> th1: can you help
<7> even if it's unstable
<4> okay. WCS. say I screw up gnome to the point of it not booting. Is there a way to get back to the original login screen? ([compname] login:)
<10> yereth: you still around? sorry, I got a phone call
<0> thingfish: At least you learned, and so have I, I've done some stupid things too. :)
<10> beardy: yesterday morning I was completely braindead, and advised someone to chmod g+w something in /usr/bin
<9> beardy: when you consider that we're little more than glorified monkeys, it's a wonder we don't do more stupid things.
<1> friedl, (1) don't use that package, it's made for testing/unstable (2) either find a package that's made for sarge or go compile it yourself.
<8> prateekg, why do you want to upgrade and what version do you ned?
<10> beardy: fortunately someone else was around to catch my mistake... heh
<11> Vasistha: yeah I am copying 20 gigs of data to the new ext3 partition I just made
<0> thingfish: Heh, yeah. I meant in other places, not only here, though.
<7> Eulex: okay
<10> yereth: awesome, glad to hear it!
<1> friedl, or (3) skip that package and go install themes manually; the guys in #kde will know how
<11> so afterwards I can check my main disk to see if there are any errors on it
<0> thingfish: +too
<9> beardy: oh me too
<3> anyone familiar with running ekiga or gnomemeeting know of a good client?
<9> I seem to have specialized in doing stupid things throughout my life.
<12> ryness: i use gnomemeeting
<13> anyone got a fix for #: trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.so.2.0', which is also in package xlibs
<0> thingfish: Ah, heh, yeah, didn't think that far.
<14> anyone ever had that error? "mocp: relocation error: mocp: symbol snd_pcm_hw_params_get_channels_min, version ALSA_0.9.0rc4 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference"
<11> Vasistha: thanx for concern and help :)
<3> inetd___, what clients do you use with it?
<12> ryness: gm to gm only
<1> spanglesontoast, is this debian?
<0> bztunk: Google the error.
<13> yup
<1> spanglesontoast, apt-cache policy xlibs?
<3> ahh... thx inetd___
<14> beardy: tried, only 1 result from a japanese blog :(
<4> ... uhm... what's the current extension for plaintext files? I wanna guess txt, but i'm not sure if that's windowsified...
<1> spanglesontoast, and what Installed: says is what's important
<15> bztunk, google groups?
<16> kriel: usually, they have no extension
<0> kriel: There is only filenames, extensions does not exist. Repeat!
<12> ryness: h323 works great on it...if u want multi platform client go for skype
<13> Installed: 4.3.0-0ds4
<4> azeem: beardy: ... this is going to take some getting used to... ... -blinks a few times-
<1> spanglesontoast, and apt-cache policy libxrandr2?
<3> thx inetd___ ..... i was actually looking for a server/client system... like marratech.
<13> it isn't
<9> spanglesontoast: what distro did you use before Debian?
<15> kriel, you'll love not having to type the extra '.' :)
<0> kriel: By convenience, call textfiles something.txt, and so on, but it's no standard, and it's not necessary. But usually, things are called the same thing as other places, .mp3 for mp3, .wav for wav-files, .avi for AVI movies, and so on.
<9> or do I know that already heh



<14> simulcra: ah, seems like it's a common bug heh
<1> spanglesontoast, well then, take those two commands and pastebin the full output of them.
<4> simulcra, yeah, but i can just see myself going like 'okay, what the hell do i open this with?'
<17> i've got a bit of a problem. I'm trying to use usb devices but when I use Linux they don't show up. I've done some googling. A lot of the pages say just use hotplug and they'll magically show up. I have hotplug installed and they don't just magically show up.
<15> bztunk, hope you fix it
<1> anywavedave, you need to mount them.
<12> ryness: for a LAN?
<18> Its been a long time since i've used x on debian. is x-window-system-core still where i should start?
<19> charzero: yes
<20> mkdir /media/usb; mount /dev/sda0 /media/usb
<3> for internet and lan
<11> kriel: more accurately, extensions are just for convenience for the user, so he
<20> that'll usually do the trick
<11> kriel: or she can see what it is
<3> something like webex or elluminate?
<15> kriel, cat usually does the trick for me, but i usually work in console, so YMMV
<12> ryness: try VLC...it does the job aswell
<0> charzero: /msg dpkg install x
<17> Eulex>ok I'm a noob and don't know anything, please help.
<0> anywavedave: /msg dpkg grounding
<13> ihttp://pastebin.com/740399
<1> !vfatrw
<21> To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS, if you replace "vfat" with "ntfs" (although you can't currently easily _write_ to NTFS with Linux)..
<13> http://pastebin.com/740399
<13> there we go
<3> ok thx i'll look into VLC
<1> anywavedave, and substack gave you some nice advice.
<17> beardy, what?
<3> video/collaboration software seems to be much more advanced in the commercial sector.
<0> !tell anywavedave -about grounding
<18> ati users: (mobility x300) framebuffer or no?
<1> charzero, no
<1> charzero, it usually causes more harm than it helps.
<4> ... how the heck do you move stuff around on panels? -pokes it- It's like... superglued.
<15> kriel, right click title bar, move to panel?
<1> spanglesontoast, hmm, could you pastebin the original error -- the one about that file already being in the package xlibs?
<13> erm ya
<4> simulcra, no, i mean, the icons once they're on the panel...
<0> anywavedave: You said you were a "noob", the factoid grounding contains good starting points. Read the reference.
<1> spanglesontoast, also, you're trying to dist-upgrade from sarge to etch, right?
<15> right-click, unlock? then right-click move? works in gnome...
<17> SubStack, I typed su and my p***word plus mkdir /media/usb; mount /dev/sda0 /media/usb and got a message mount: you must specify the filesystem type
<0> anywavedave: /msg dpkg something, means, type that in your irc-client to ask the bot about something.
<1> simulcra, how do you know that he's using gnome?
<13> yes Eulex
<13> http://pastebin.com/740405
<15> Eulex, i ***umed, wrongly, hehe
<4> cause I am... but, that's besides the point. I don't see an unlock button oo;
<11> gnome ****s.
<0> anywavedave: Do you know which filesystem that is used on that drive?
<20> anywavedave: is it a usb drive?
<1> simulcra, I'm not saying that you're wrong, just that you might be wrong.
<20> you can't mount it unless it's a file system
<17> if I understood any of the stuff I man'd I wouldn't be in here
<20> forgot to ask that
<4> oh, wait. ... ><; -hides under stupid hat-
<3> in sarge, how can i tell if i have ALSA support compiled into my kernel?
<9> ryness: uname -r
<0> anywavedave: Where has the drive been formated/partitioned?
<1> spanglesontoast, try doing apt-get install xlibs
<3> thingfish, that just gives me the kernel number
<13> it says unmet depends
<17> beardy, no I have several devices, a zip, a memory stick, reader, usb hard drive
<0> anywavedave: Well, no one understands everything at once, as long as you try, asking here is the right thing.
<3> would it say 2.4.27-2-686-smp
<3> -ALSA ?
<9> well duh, ryness. if you must, if it's 2.6, you're set for alsa.
<13> and wants me to do apt-get -f install
<1> ryness, if you tell us your kernel version, we can tell if you have alsa in your kernel
<3> thank you
<0> anywavedave: The one you are trying to mount at the moment, I emant.
<1> ryness, 2.4.27 doesn't have alsa in the kernel, you need to install the kernel modules separately
<3> my question wasn't "do i have alsa support", it was how do i tell :)
<9> hence the 'uname -r' question.


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