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<0> I guess there's issue with it through the 2.6.16 kernel
<0> it's a brand new laptop
<1> pipeline: well, you can't possibly know our situation, so your judgement of its necessity is your own business :-)
<0> toshiba m100
<1> clarity_: brand new? a 2.6 kernel would be better, probably.
<0> how do you load etch?
<0> is there a diff install cd/
<2> testing cd
<1> clarity_: well... does your nic work at all with 2.4, or you have no network whatsoever?
<0> I got wifi to work through the madwifi 3rd party
<0> but I need wired for work
<1> clarity_: well, you could probably download an etch kernel with apt-get, that would probably be the easiest way to get it
<0> what kern does etch have?
<3> Vasistha, hello
<1> clarity_: oh, and the other thing to do would be to download an updated sarge 2.6.8, one more recent than the install cd provided
<1> clarity_: in fact, have you done an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade yet ?
<1> pourriture_: good evening!
<0> I can't boot sarge :-\
<0> err 2.6.8
<0> I was running 2.4 and did apt-get install 2.6.18
<1> clarity_: well, you can boot it in 2.4, right?
<0> then I couldn't boot at all :-\
<1> clarity_: oh, well, does lilo still have the older boot configurations in it? You didn't explicitly remove the 2.4 kernel, did you?
<3> clarity_, ... damn good thing that grub has the choice of booting to the previos kernel .. no?
<0> well what happened was I had to del some other packages to install the new kernel
<0> so I did that
<0> and it installed it
<3> Vasistha, .... llilo ... what is this ... last week?
<0> but it'd break on boot into the 2.6 kernel
<0> and with the 2.4 my wifi wouldn't work..
<1> pourriture_: I'm pretty sure clarity_ is using lilo, not grub
<0> I used both
<1> clarity_: yeah, but you probably didn't delete the kernel you were running, just some -other- packages
<3> Vasistha, I was just messing with you ...
<0> it was weird it said I had to use lilo for 2.6
<1> pourriture_: hehe...
<0> but I reinstalled anyways though
<1> clarity_: uh, that's just weird.
<0> yah, it didn't make sense to me
<0> is there a way I can find out what kernel is included in testing?
<1> clarity_: I think it's 2.6.15
<0> hrm
<1> clarity_: look on packages.debian.org do a search for kernel-image-2.6
<0> thanks
<3> seems to me that if it isn't in the kernel you are using that you could compile a module and load it
<3> but that is just me being silly
<0> dunno
<1> pourriture_: yeah... well, the thing is, it's a brand new computer, it ought to run 2.6 ... but 2.6 is hanging on boot, perhaps while attempting to load some module
<4> Vasistha, clarity_ : Brand new machine? Then yes, time to try etch instead.
<5> was getting a grub error 18
<1> what's up with that? weird. I'm able to boot 2.6.8 from grub... oh well, who knows
<5> probably my old bios and the newer harddrive
<5> want in one hand and well, you know how that goes
<3> actually 3 brand new machines would be even better
<5> why stop there?
<5> how do you know what shell you're using?
<0> has anyone tried using sid?
<0> how unstable is it?
<3> SkyBlueshoes, cause my wife keeps installing FreeBSD on all the boxen that I can't admin myself
<5> lol
<3> clarity_, pornview doesn't work in sid
<6> Hi All. What are general terms to describe long term monitoring (e.g. cpu load over days) and short term monitoring (hey, the cpu is overloaded)?
<7> hi, what command will tell me the runlevel that the system is currently at?
<6> howitz: who -r
<3> and pornview is too cool to miss out on
<7> thks
<8> howitz: or /sbin/runlevel
<7> thks
<0> yah I'm looking at it now
<9> hi everyone
<10> netman1: short term-alarm long term: trend
<11> Hello
<0> man I hope etch works... I still have a linksys I need to stick linux on before I move to berk
<7> netman1: fr 'who -r', there is last=S. what does it mean?
<6> bluestrain: Thanks!
<1> clarity_: huh, those almost sound like the words of someone who lives in los angeles
<6> howitz: single user?
<3> SkyBlueshoes, it is a depressing thing ... wife got pissed about my linux fetish and she decided to take up freebsd and now she is 1337-er than I
<9> im looking for a softare that can manage times in telephone conversations
<5> lol, pourriture_, that is sad
<0> Vasistha why do you say that?
<5> (that's why you keep them in the dark)
<7> netman1: i would think so too. thks.
<10> There is no Los Angeles. I saw it fall into the ocean on really bad TV movie last week.
<9> can anibody help me...?
<12> pourriture_, you two can meet each other half way, using gentoo-fbsd
<1> clarity_: I've just had a lot of friends around here who have moved and gone back and forth between Berkeley and LA, often in a bit of a hurry with lots of stuff to do :D
<0> oh
<9> where can i find softwre of this kind... to conect debian to a phone line..?
<13> how does one get a more verbose output from the kernel compilation process
<13> AS arch/i386/math-emu/div_Xsig.o
<3> SkyBlueshoes, she read Cuckoo's Egg and actually got it ... not the story ... but the whole geek thing
<0> I live about an hour and a half north of LA
<1> dirakx: I just have no idea what to tell you!
<0> I'm moving to berk in 3 weeks...
<13> i wish to see the full command.. as -blabla -blabla arch/i386/math-emu..
<1> clarity_: ahha! I knew it :-) I debated saying "in or near" los angeles
<1> clarity_: have an awesome time. I love Berkeley.
<0> yah, I'm stoked.. compsci :-)
<0> I'm going to try to find a new job where I'm not doing windows stuff all day
<1> bluestrain: no more los angeles? damn it! then where am I right now???
<9> vasistha: thanks anyway
<0> especially now since sql2k5 crapped all over the place.
<4> Vasistha: A prison of the mind.
<0> I have about 25megs of code to rewrite at my current job..
<0> all sql2k5/.net 1
<14> clarity_: use all caps, it makes it look bigger. Your boss will be impressed.
<1> dirakx: do you mean... to make a modem work??
<14> =)
<9> Vasistha: i need a software to control a phone line
<1> Rug: haha :-)
<1> dirakx: "control"?
<9> Vasistha: to check for example the time that is expend in a conversation
<1> clarity_: may I recommend the USCA student housing cooperatives as a wonderful place to live? if you can stand it...
<0> naw, I got a 1bedroom for 1200/month
<10> Vasistha: Don't worry, in the course of this movie, my current location was replaced with an inland sea
<1> dirakx: are you saying you want to "tap" the line -- monitor what's going on, without having the modem or device actually take part in a voice conversation?
<5> sounds like it Vasistha
<0> I'm going to have some embedded boards laying around, and I don't want them to get stolen
<9> no...i want to conect several phone lines to my computer and control them or supervise them
<1> clarity_: yeah, if you need to secure your stuff, the coops are not always the best place for that. Once a server was stolen from inside a locked cabinet...
<0> dirakx: maybe asterisk?
<0> yah that blows
<14> this is funny/sad. ManPage for apt: BUGS This manpage isnt even started.
<0> I have too much stuff for a co-op
<9> ok im gonna check that in source forge
<1> clarity_: understood :-) I have a friend who has lived in the coops who really had too much stuff, it didn't work well, he was always having to move his stuff around, sometimes in storage
<0> I have 2 laptops, 500gb externel harddrive,a p4 desktop, and a bunch of other stuff
<11> clarity_: these software can i use in cafe internet?
<1> clarity_: the thing is there tend to be cool linux geeks at some of the coops
<5> I'll store that P4 for ya!
<0> yah, one of my best friends is staying at a coop.. I'll hang around them
<9> Vasistha: do you know more software of this kind...?
<0> I'm just not going to have my stuff in one
<0> plus I'm going to goto the sf2600 :-)
<1> dirakx: I really don't, I'm more of a catalyst for helping people clarify their questions so someone who knows pipes up...
<0> there's a callug at berkeley
<0> not sure if it ****s or not
<0> they also have this OCF (open computer faculty) club
<0> it seems pretty active
<9> ok thank you very much indeed
<1> clarity_: actually, I think it should be pretty good. I mean, BSD came from berkeley, so did unix
<0> yah... and it use to be hacker mecca :-)
<1> dirakx: I'm still trying to figure out exactly what you want to do... partially for curiousity's sake :-)
<0> john draper and everyone use to live there
<7> how to interpret the output of a diff command used on two files e.g. 3,4c3,4 or 6,9c6,12.
<1> howitz: use kdiff3 or xxdiff ;-)
<9> Vasistha: the thing is that i cant make myself clear in this
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