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<0> abrotman: I'm just trying to install a printer in kprinter, but hvaen't got access to install any printer and I'm running aout of time
<1> abrotman - the only thing not commented out is log /var/log/dpkg.log
<2> embrik: try printconf
<3> unfo hum okay thanks
<2> pete_welsch: dpkg -l libc6
<2> pete_welsch: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1
<4> How can I setup the date and time using network time from the cli?
<2> !tell jshriver about ntp
<4> hrm will give that a shot thanks brb
<4> what package is tzconfig in?
<1> returns that same error
<1> dpkg: configuration error: unknown option log: Success
<0> abrotman: printconf Do you mean edit printconf? rintconf doesn't seem to be a command in konsole
<2> pete_welsch: you can't run dpkg -l ?
<2> !info printconf sarge
<5> printconf: (automatically configures USB and parallel printers with CUPS), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.7.4.14 (sarge), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 40 kB



<6> goodbye
<1> nope - don't know if you saw my original query - it borks on just about everything
<1> can't even handle --version
<0> I have a laserjet metwork printer..
<7> Everytime I restart my computer, linux forgets that mounted my windows partition. Is there anyway I can permanently mount it?
<0> !info printconf sarge
<5> printconf: (automatically configures USB and parallel printers with CUPS), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.7.4.14 (sarge), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
<8> abrotman: IIRC embrik has a network printing situation.
<2> pete_welsch: run ... /lib/libc.so.76
<2> pete_welsch: run ... /lib/libc.so.6
<2> unfo: ah .. ok
<4> abrotman, thanks :) been trying to get that to work for a while now... the control panel in gnome never seems to work this is a lot easier :)
<2> pete_welsch: what is the version in the first line ?
<2> jshriver: yes it is :)
<2> pete_welsch: alternately .. try commenting out that "log" option in the dpkg.cfg
<0> As abrotman said, I have a network printing situation. Anybody who can ***ist?
<9> embrik: just ask the question(s) with as much detail as possible
<2> embrik: i don't own a printer .. i've just heard that printconf is magic :)
<10> haii
<8> anto_nu_h: what does that mean?
<1> abrotman - apt-get install ran after commenting out the log option
<2> it was an attempt at "hi"
<2> pete_welsch: now .. dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1
<0> I've given my printer an IP and I can ping it. I've tried to install in cups using the webinteface localhost:631, nothing happens. I've tried krpinter, I can find my printer here, but it stops in the prosess telling me that I haven't got authorisation to install a printer.
<1> abrotman - gotta ask what you meant by 'run ... /lib/libc.so.6'
<8> abrotman: i knew that.
<8> pete_welsch: type this:
<8> /lib/libc.so.6
<2> pete_welsch: try it
<8> press Enter.
<11> I need a recommendation for a text editor for _large_ data files...
<8> cureless: emacs is ok for 50MB or so.. past that, vim may be better.
<12> cureless: less
<2> brianski: EDITOR
<12> cureless: if you need to edit, use sed and grep
<11> unfo: I'm a vim user, but even with the LargeFile plugin it still kind of ****s for 1gig files.
<12> sed/grep/tail/head is the best editor
<8> cureless: your file is too big.
<8> cureless: why so big?
<11> unfo: tell me about it. (and it's not my file), and to top it of it's on an nfs mount
<11> unfo: it's a simulation log file
<1> abotman/unfo - ran /lib/libc.so.6 - what part of the output did you want?
<8> cureless: split into pieces?
<13> cureless: Att logrotate to the simulation.
<13> add
<11> beardy: hahaha, right.
<8> cureless: y not?
<11> because that's not how simulations work.
<11> And, I need it complete for the visualizer.
<8> cureless: perl? sed?
<11> unfo: I used perl, sed and awk already for the automated things.
<13> cureless: What does this simulate?
<11> beardy: a network.
<13> cureless: with an admin that breaks logrotation?
<8> cureless: a hex editor?
<8> beardy: haha
<11> beardy: you can't logrotate it, that's not how simulators work.
<14> lo all
<11> unfo: good suggestion, I might try that.
<8> iLLf8d: hi, why the nickname?
<8> cureless: apt-cache search hex editor of course.



<14> cause you need them to come on irc
<8> iLLf8d: you mean on EFnet. not on freenode.
<15> I wonder whether to install Sid/Etch or Ubuntu. I've been using debian for 4 yrs. What is your advise? What i mostly miss in debian is new version of software.
<11> unfo: thanks, I know my way around. :-).
<1> unfo/abrotman - thanks for the help, this is looking good for now
<8> cureless: ok i ***umed 95% chance so :)
<14> unfo, I dunno I've been using this nickname on freenode for about 10 years now
<14> unfo why you so cranky?
<8> iLLf8d: nobody's complained?
<8> iLLf8d: dunno why.
<16> cureless: I wonder if a text-based vi or emacs would work? I don't use them, but they -might- be good with large files... I can definitely say that the graphical editors generally are not
<14> unfo nope just you
<11> unfo: and I already have hexedit installed, too bad the compute server is on a fedora machine.
<7> is there an easy way to upgrade from stable to unstable?
<8> didnt eat since breakfast. I still think it's odd nobody's complained though.
<16> cureless: by "text-based" I mean "console-based"
<11> Vasistha: I am a text-based vim user. I alread use the LargeFile plugin.
<14> unfo, thanks for the nickname patrol sorry if it bugsya
<8> snickel1650: unstable breaks often. try backports instead
<13> zimnyx: If you have been using it for 4 years, why are you 1) asking that 2) not choosing Debian without asking 3) aswell as ask here, ask #ubuntu?
<16> cureless: and it's still not doin' it for ya, huh?
<11> Vasistha: and yes, I mean console user.
<11> Vasistha: it works, but it's still not good enough.
<8> snickel1650: why would you want unstable?
<14> anyone else getting missing cidfmap error when run gs?
<11> I ***ume it's a mixture of factors, but it just ****s editing 1gig files, over the net.
<16> cureless: yeah... hmmm. I guess you need something snappier? That's gonna be tricky. I mean, the FS dealing with a file that large already carries some significant overhead, I would expect
<15> beardy: You helped me alot.
<11> I'm going to have to script the cut-edit-merge part.
<8> iLLf8d: in line with my crankiness :) http://bugs.debian.org/gs
<7> unfo: I'm kind of getting tired of out of date software
<8> snickel1650: so use ubuntu.
<11> Vasistha: and you would be right. Though it should just load it into memory.
<7> that would require a total reinstallation though right?
<8> snickel1650: really, why not backports of emacs, irssi, the stuff you use every day?
<8> snickel1650: ubuntu would.
<14> unfo, heh I was just looking for a workaround I'm pretty sure it exists (the bug) I think the files just in the wrong path and needs a symlink I was fishing =)
<11> and the next file is 3 gigs... yuck
<16> cureless: yeah, I think that's your best shot. script a cut-edit-merge tool... and I think editors are usually designed -not- to attempt to load 1GB of text into memory
<12> me says again, sed/awk/perl/grep/head/tail
<8> iLLf8d: check the bug report if so.
<13> zimnyx: So, you want "new software", why don't you just run unstable then (no I'm not saying you should), Ubuntu is a snapshot of unstable, and therefore it's older than unstable which changes all the time.
<16> brianski: yeah, but what about when you just want to go in and tweak a few things that are only in place, not effecting the whole file? I mean... sure, you can with head/tail/grep/sed/etc but... geez, it's so tricky
<15> beardy: i'm running Sid from beginning:)
<8> cureless: I would be very surprised if *nobody* had ever written a suitable text editor. Maybe google very large file text editor?
<17> hm beardy not having heard hte rest of the conversation.. but usually it's easy to build "unstable" packages for stable from source
<12> Vasistha: you can get used to it :)
<17> usually solves my problems
<16> brianski: and what about when you're browsing through the file and see something that needs to be changed... rather than having to exit out of less and reload or whatever
<8> I bet there are like 2000 text editors out there.
<16> brianski: sure you can get used to it but it's still cumbersome
<13> th1: Thankyou, but that doesn't make sense in this conversation.
<12> ( head -uptoproblemline $file ; grep problemline | sed 's/problem/fix/' $file ; tail -afterproblemline $file ) >out
<12> works for me with relative ease
<17> ok beardy :)
<11> unfo: probably, hence I came here to ask for a recommendation. :-)
<16> unfo: for editing 3 GB large files over NFS? I don't think there are 2000 text editors geared towards that, no
<11> unfo: but I'll probably stick with the split-edit-merge trick
<12> Vasistha: as for exiting less and reloading that's what multiple console windows are for
<12> there are text editors that are smart about not loading the whole file into mem tho
<8> Vasistha: har har har
<17> brianski, that'd account for about 99% of unix editors..
<16> cureless: how does it behave in viewers, e.g. less, or whatever you use?
<12> suggest you look into the large file plugin someone was talking about before
<16> brianski: I think he said he's already using it !
<12> th1 - when was the last time you loaded a 3G file in an editor?
<11> Vasistha: snappy in less.
<17> brianski, when I last opened a dvd iso with emacs by mistake I think :)
<11> emacs plays dvds now??
<16> th1: hehheh oops
<8> cureless: that would be a cool feature.
<17> cureless, I'm sure you could make it :)
<12> th1 - and was performance important to you in that situation ? ;)


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