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<0> dangaio: if 8139too gets loaded, all you need to do is configure it
<0> dangaio: man interfaces
<1> slide: gnome is a metapackage
<2> namely i got the 2 packages in and starting but in each case i only have partial functionality
<1> !tell slide about remove gnome
<1> slide: remember this is the 'debian way' and it might not work with ubuntu
<3> yea =\
<4> dangaio: You need to configure it, ip ...
<3> but they can't help me soo heh
<5> dvm1981: ok, i gonna do this
<4> dominicano: Yes man, so we try ;-)
<2> both programs i am trying to run are X clients
<6> ok, so how do I get it done so it can use dhcp?
<1> dominicano: upgrading to etch?
<4> dangaio: its default in DHCP
<2> so my chrooted X client is trying to talk to my main X server
<5> odla: yes...!
<4> dangaio: If you not config it, and installed with netinst it's in DHCP
<2> i did fstab of proc to the chrooted /proc
<1> dominicano: make sure you have a kernel >=2.6.12 before you upgrade or udeb will f-up your upgrade
<1> or at least it did for me
<1> oops udev
<2> and i did mount --bind of the reral and chrooted /tmp/ 's
<1> not udeb
<4> odla: He have do the upgrade already
<2> and i did xauth to copy my real X authority to the chrooted X authority
<1> dvm1981: well i install 2.6.12 from etch, reboot into that kernel, then apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
<2> so the progams do start
<4> odla: yes
<1> dvm1981: though there might have been a udev issue a couple weeks ago that has been solved
<2> but they run into some trouble
<1> oh
<1> he's already upgrade
<1> i see
<4> odla: yes ;-)
<4> odla: At this time if we do an upgrade from stable to testing, it's solved ?
<1> dvm1981: well i upgrade from sarge to etch last week and it worked
<1> dvm1981: so i think so ;)
<1> dvm1981: just make sure you have a kernel >=2.6.12 so that udev doesn't freak out
<1> that you're running
<4> odla: yes
<1> dvm1981: then you should be good to go
<2> i think i need additional links from the chroot to the real ie "links" of some sort
<4> odla: Or if you have not Gnome i think that we not see this problem
<1> dvm1981: yeah
<2> another thing i did read in a web page to do this was copied the real /etc/hosts to the corresponding in chroot
<4> odla: Like i not use Gnome ... ... ... i not see it anymore
<7> Is there any way to switch between languages on a per-application, or per-application-instance basis? Specifically with programs like OpenOffice, Xchat, and mozilla?
<4> odla: I would not say that it's bad he, gnome
<1> dvm1981: i see...yeah i don't use gnome either...though i do have it installed on my computer
<8> Flimzy: did you try setting $LANG ?
<4> odla: Yes, default 'desktop environment' installation, the last time i try to install what i need, so the bare minimal and add what i need. I do that in virtual computing, here Stabe
<4> odla: Stable
<7> chealer: I don't want to change the language for *every* application. Are you suggesting I just set that before starting the specific app from the shell? Like '$LANG=es; mozilla'?
<4> odla: So the 'Testing' are on my laptop and in virtual computers (vmware)
<8> Flimzy: $ LANG=foo bar;
<1> dvm1981: i see
<7> I probably need to get some additional language support into my kernel and/or debiain
<4> chealer: Hey i have understand why i have not see the things there in 'alsamixe' i had use the bad module and the 00 - MM was not there, also the other important informations that he show
<4> chealer: You have help me with my sound card for my laptop right ?
<8> dvm1981: I don't remember that, unless that was a long time ago
<4> chealer: Yesterday or so, not?
<8> dvm1981: I don't think so
<4> chealer: It was chealer__
<4> chealer: looking to my logs
<8> dvm1981: hum, well, it's great if it works :)
<6> Ok, I have typed in my interface file auto lo eth0 and made it to dhcp. When I do /etc/init.d/networking restart, I get eth0: Error while getting interface flags: No such device.
<9> is dhclient on the sarge netinstall disk
<9> nvm ill do just static ip
<4> chealer: yes ;-)
<2> so the connections i made from chroot to main: proc tmp and hosts
<8> Forrestf: it's there
<4> Forrestf: While you install with netinst he ask you to use DHCP not ?
<2> and the troubles i still have seem to be in 3 areas
<2> the clients can connect to the X server
<6> is there a network how to for debian?
<2> but gnome clients cant seem to connect to the gnome session manager according to error messages i am getting
<10> hey, could i ask one of you fellow debian users to do a diff on make-kpkg against my version of make-kpkg?
<4> chealer: Two days ago you have help me, i have view in the log
<2> also a client wants to dipslay a window with large detailed graphics
<10> privmsg for URL, help appreciated. i'd like an diff against make-kpkg 8.x
<8> dvm1981: it's OK, I just forgot
<8> shadows: what do you mean exactly?
<4> chealer: Im not man ;-) really thankx for the support ;-)
<5> dvm1981: i finished, the snapshot is in http://relikia.blogspot.com/
<8> dvm1981: hehe
<4> dominicano: i look now
<7> Where can I get a description of the various locales supported by locales?
<11> I'm a big fan of p***wordless ssh login, as my day typically involves lots of hopping between three or four boxes. But now I'm sshing into a box I don't control, and I don't want to put an rsa key on it that could also be used to authenticate into other boxes. Is there a way to designate different keys for different targets, so I can have a key that is only used to authenticate into this one box (and thus not valuable to somebod
<8> dangaio: you're probably better looking at the reference
<10> chealer: 'make-kpkg' apparently is not working as it should on my machine (etch, testing)
<10> chealer: it builds 2.6.15, but not 2.6.15.1, vanilla kernel source trees
<10> very strange shell script errors, hard to trace IMO
<8> shadows: hah
<4> dominicano: I think that it is because you use a 800x600 resolution, that to less to work with comfort, personal meaning.
<12> Flimzy: Run the command 'locale -a'
<13> Hello, i am using a wireless network and unfortunately the connection from my Debian machine is flimsy.
<10> chealer: i am hoping to see what changed between then (8.x) and now (9.008-4)
<7> tyranix, there aren't any descriptions there.
<13> The problem is, when the wireless drops and comes back up after a second, my machine doesn't seem to recognise that it's back online.
<14> jjazz: you don't need to specifically designate keys, just load them all into ssh-agent and it'll try them until it finds one that works
<13> Any ideas?
<10> i've got a copy of my make-kpkg available if one of you would be so kind to diff against it
<15> does anybody know of good powerpoint viewer ??
<12> Flimzy: hmm what are you looking for then?
<8> shadows: what do you mean, you have kernel-package on etch?
<16> sciboy: are you sure it's flimsy or is it flimzy ?
<9> i have i idea, etch beta1 or the daily releses
<8> shadows: s/-package/-package 8.x
<5> dvm1981: I can't use a 1024x768 because my VSYNC (i do not how to say it) gonna make me blind
<7> tyranix: I want to know what aa_ER means, for instance. Or es_SV.
<10> chealer: the kernel-package debian package versioned 9.008-4
<11> mgoetze: I'll man ssh-agent to see how to load other keys. Thanks.
<9> for ITE 8212 insta;;
<14> jjazz: however, you don't actually need another key, just using ssh-agent forwarding should be secure enough
<13> bucky, I believe the british spelling is flimsy.
<4> dominicano: And you had not this problem before the upgrad ?
<10> chealer: i was looking to get a diff against an make-kpkg from kernel-package 8.something
<16> sciboy: you could ask Flimzy
<7> tyranix: I know they're language and nation codes... but I'd like to see a list of them all, b/c I don't have all lanuage and country codes memorized... or the ISO and UTF code numbers
<14> jjazz: to add keys, use ssh-add
<11> mgoetze: Ah, so they'll have my key but not the p***phrase?
<4> dominicano: #
<4> HorizSync 28-48
<4> #
<4> VertRefresh 43-72
<11> mgoetze: Thanks.
<5> dvm1981: this problem is old and odd
<14> jjazz: uh, the p***phrase should be only in your memory :)
<8> shadows: ah. well, nobody is going to do that for you. try to diff against stable's kernel-package
<7> bucky, eh?
<13> bucky, But back to being more serious, wireless reception drops for a second, and my debian box doesn't reconnect to the network.
<13> bucky, I have to /etc/init.d/networking restart etc. manually to bring it back online.
<4> oeps
<14> jjazz: but if you use agent forwarding, you can use your key without putting the private portion on the foreign box
<10> chealer: i was trying to do that on my own, however p.d.o is down
<13> Bucciarati, And when the reception drops everything 10 seconds, that's not good.
<11> mgoetze: agent forwarding?
<13> bucky, That one sentence above was for you.
<4> dominicano: HorizSync 28-48 --- VertRefresh 43-72
<14> jjazz: so you only need to put your public key on the foreign box, and that is after all what public keys are for ;)
<8> shadows: you don't need p.d.o to get stable's kernel-packasge
<4> dominicano: I think its not setup correct
<11> mgoetze: Ah, yes, that makes sense.
<16> sciboy: any 2.4 Ghz cordless phones in the house?
<10> i'm lazy
<16> microwave?
<17> hey so can someone tell me what causes thunderbird to use konqueror as its default web browser, and how I can change that behavior?
<13> bucky, None.
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