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<0> jspiro: the new license is GPL incompatible
<1> no. Xfree is still free but there are small things that conflicts with GPL i think
<2> AFAIK
<3> azeem: i stand corrected
<3> simulcra: what azeem said. it is still Free.
<0> jspiro: so .. while it's free .. it can't really be used with any GNU/Linux distro
<4> azeem: It doesnt work the libmesa-gl of backports.org?
<2> razor_edge: no
<4> azeem: why is that?
<5> apt-get is totally jamed... what can I do!?
<2> razor_edge: because nobody integrated that XGL stuff yet
<6> !XFree86
<7> well, xfree86 is proof that world has gone mad, or a free open-source implementation of X11. http://www.xfree86.org/ or ask me about "install xf4" or "x.org", or something that moves so slowly, it doesn't feel like it's moved in years
<2> razor_edge: and because nobody is insane enough to package mesa CVS for backports
<8> simulcra, more accurately, its license contains things that conflicts with the debain free software guidelines (the dfsg), and is thus considered non-free to debian
<3> P4C0: just curious: are you on sarge?
<9> !distract channel
<1> ok Eulex, thanks
<5> jspiro, no, I'm on etch... at least... that what /etc/debian_version says
<8> *debian
<3> P4C0: why?
<1> so the issue is not *that* big to make Xfree users shift immediately to Xorg?
<4> azeem: damn, debian turn out to be really crap... i am going to switch to something more from this century like opensuse or even gentoo
<6> simulcra: not at all
<2> simulcra: XFree86 is basically unmaintained
<6> simulcra: and debians XFree86 is not affected
<2> (upstream)
<1> razor_edge, genntoo's great
<1> ah ok
<2> razor_edge: feel free
<1> it's the new versions of Xfree that's affected
<6> simulcra: XFree86 NEW license is only in place starting at version 4.4, that is not in debian
<3> razor_edge: did something not work for you in debian? did you ask for help on IRC?
<5> jspiro, because I need it... the why is not going to help... here I have a huge problem
<9> razor_edge: bye
<3> P4C0: I recommend backports instead.
<3> P4C0: I guess though for now you'll have to fix it.
<5> jspiro, !? man I can't even install vi...
<10> Anyone know of a quick and dirty way to map the root directory in a tarball to another directory?
<1> thanks lots guys for clearing up alot of things, debian still rocks in my book
<11> stouset: man tar :P
<10> pipeline: Done.
<3> P4C0: that ****s.
<12> stouset: you want to copy? files or dirs only?
<13> hello
<5> jspiro, yes but how?? the dpkg dependencias are totally jammed... so, what can I do?? reinstall everything and then try to update once again from sarge to etch like I did? and pray for it to don't lock again?? if this is failing now, will be keep feeling nomather wha
<3> P4C0: dunno
<10> pipeline: Only thing I can see there is possibly extracting to stdout via -O, use sed to rewrite all instances of the root directory in it to the one I want, then pipe that into a tarpipe that creates the tar then extracts it. Nasty as hell.
<13> could someone recommend a strategy to resize my windows partition using something other than partition magic?
<5> jspiro, I just can't beleve that there's a --nodependencias or, a command that I can remove osmething and it just do what I want... remove totally the xfree86... god
<10> lepton: I have a tarball with, for example, dir1 as the base directory in the tarball. I want to extract it so that it extracts to dir2, rather than dir1
<14> remote: looked at bootITng?
<11> P4C0: "--force-all --purge" will do that. But you probably don't want to do that. A dangerous, dangerous operation.
<5> whay if I'm trying to *remove* xutils for example, it complains about unmeet dependencies with kmail....
<6> P4C0: can you paste your precise error?
<2> P4C0: run apt-get -f install
<6> P4C0: or the URL to that
<5> how? I don't have X and I don't have links or lynx or similar... I can get anything out of that pc, is totally useless right now...
<15> amee2k: /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/README.Debian
<3> !tell P4C0 about gpm
<3> !tell P4C0 about paste
<2> P4C0: is it network-connected?
<0> or dump it to a text file .. then put it in #flood
<5> jspiro, I'm in other pc...
<5> azeem, yes it is...
<0> P4C0: there is that command .. but it's not good to use
<3> P4C0: so type it for us?
<5> jspiro, yes I will what command do you want?
<3> P4C0: what they told you
<2> P4C0: then redirect the output to a file and copy that over the network
<5> apt-get -f install? that one?
<2> and then paste it from some other box
<2> !paster
<7> Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url.
<3> P4C0: yes
<5> azeem, humm ok, I will :p
<12> stouset: so the -C option does not do what you want?
<5> here it is: http://pastebin.com/739516
<10> lepton: That just untars the existing structure into a different extraction directory...doesn't change the base directory *inside the tarball itself*, best I can tell
<5> my goal: get xorg...
<2> stouset: what is a `base directory inside the tarball' in your book?
<3> P4C0: old xfree is usually fine.
<3> P4C0: if you have no X at all, though, pick xorg.
<10> azeem: tar -czf base_directory.tar.gz base_directory
<5> jspiro, drivers, I need the xorg drivers... but now the problem is that I can not install anything... apt-get dpkg etc are totally jammed
<2> stouset: I don't think that information is getting stored
<3> P4C0: that ****s.
<5> jspiro, http://pastebin.com/739516
<10> azeem: It is. When you untar it, it creates base_directory and all the substructure underneath it
<8> P4C0, have you done a full dist-upgrade to etch?
<5> jspiro, you don't have to tell me that, belive me, I know...
<12> stouset: so extract then mv or cp -ax or rsync -ax
<16> i am new to debian OS , i installed GNOME desktop but i canot find how to make it my default desktop
<2> stouset: right, but how does it know you didn't do `tar -czf base_directory.tar.gz base_directory/other_base_directory'?
<10> lepton: The directory will already exist
<10> azeem: In that case, it will use other_base_directory as the base
<5> Eulex, yes, yesterday, and it seems to be ok... today I just wanted to install amarok... and here I am...
<2> stouset: and it strips base_directory?
<8> P4C0, you could force-remove xfree86-common with dpkg and then install x11-common
<5> Eulex, it all started with apt-get install amarok...
<5> Eulex, how??
<16> can someone guide me where to start
<10> azeem: Yes
<17> P4C0: getting rid of all of your sarge sources, running apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade should be all you need to do
<8> P4C0, man dpkg, I don't remember the exact syntax, and now I gotta go.
<5> stew, I will
<12> stouset: hmm. I extract to /x/y/z/dir1. I can mkdir /a/b/dir2, then cp -a everything from dir1 to dir2
<10> azeem: For various reasons, we can't change the directory name that gets tarballed up, and we can't untar it and mv, because that would overwrite another existing directory. Facets beyond my control.
<18> castro2006: is some other desktop environment starting instead of gnome, or is it that you get no desktop at all?
<10> lepton: That's what I'm leaning towards now, but I was hoping there was a way builtin to tar.
<17> P4C0: the fact that you are getting " Conflicts xbase-clients (<6.8.2-4) but 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 is to be installed" means you still have sarge sources around
<5> stew, http://pastebin.com/739521
<12> stouset: life is short
<16> i have default debian X server installed
<10> lepton: Without, of course, extracting to stdout and doing a sed -e "s/base_dir/dir2/" or something equally nasty :)
<3> castro2006: twm? kde?
<10> lepton: True enough. Thanks.
<3> stouset: IIRC someone wrote a Ruby script to do what you need.
<18> castro2006: maybe you're needing gdm.
<16> twm i think
<3> stouset: I don't know what its called though. :(
<5> stew, http://pastebin.com/739522
<3> castro2006: what thingfish said
<17> P4C0: yeah quanta-data is still the sarge version, you need to dist-upgrade
<10> jspiro: Ah, neat. I'll google it.
<5> stew, apt-get -f dist-upgrade?
<3> stouset: it is installable by apt-get install gdm
<16> i installed it through synaptec , i choosed GNOME
<3> castro2006: today?
<16> ye s
<18> castro2006: so go back to synaptic and search for gdm and install it.
<16> ok i will
<3> castro2006: if gdm is installed, reboot your computer and the gdm screen will appear.
<5> stew, apt-get -f dist-upgrade seems to be working... not sure... let's see at least I'm downloading files... that's something... let see, do you think the install should go ok?
<16> but i am using VMWARE ?
<16> it is the same ?
<19> castro2006: then reboot the vmware install of the distro
<19> but why run in vmware anyhow?
<16> ok
<16> i found gdm and gdm-themes ? which one
<18> at least gdm
<19> well seeing as one is nammed themes...
<18> the other is just fun stuff
<3> castro2006: install gdm then press Control-Alt-Insert to reboot VMWare immediately.
<18> heh
<16> ok
<3> castro2006: Control-Alt-Insert will not work when X Window is running though.
<16> it is installed i will restart my vmware
<20> i wonder if i can hot dock my laptop :S
<3> fwest: does swsusp already work for you?
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