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<0> liable: obviously, you would wake up when you set your clock to go off or when you woke up.
<1> ****, i already asked in this channel
<0> \amethyst: please, colonies? we humans can not even travel any distance or work together on much of anything. We will be luck to survive till 2100.
<2> kspath: yes, but that is not the point. i go to work one day and finish the next.. thats just silly. imagine doing your paperwork. Did i do this on the 25, or the 26, depending of the time of day.. rediculous
<3> kspath: It's a race to see whether we leave the planet or die
<0> liable: The idea is everyone would be on UTC/GMT but your area would set their business/school hours as they see fit.
<4> yea and by 2200 aliens will discover our planet, and wonder wth happened, and why there's global nuclear fallout
<0> liable: I think you do not understand. When 23.59 p***es to 00.00 it is next day.
<5> hello
<2> for an interesting website actually (chernobyl related) look up kidofspeed.com
<4> kidsonspeed.com? ;)
<4> liable: that's just a spamsquatter. cute puppy tho
<2> kspath: yes, which here is 10am, so if i say (for example) do something at 900am, then something at 1100am, then when i do my paperwork, i have to change the date. changing the date in the middle of the day is just stupid.
<2> Supaplex: spam squatter?
<0> liable: The concept of an hour of day being related to daytime and nighttime is something people on certain parts of the earth believe in. Try living in a part that is dey for many many many many many many hour or dark for same.
<6> Is there a good way to format a number in the command line, so that 1 would become 001, 2 -> 002, etc?
<0> liable: You do not set it. EVERYWHERE would be UTC. You would be on UTC.
<3> imaek: man 1 printf
<2> kspath: yeah, but those parts are relatively rare and unpopulated, just cause they have to, doesnt make sense for everyone else to.
<2> kspath: err, which means 10am is the change of day/date..
<0> liable: You are quite intelligent. I think if you were to think about it you would understand but you might still disagree with it for other reasons.
<3> imaek: THREEDIGIT=`printf "%03d" $NUM`
<4> liable: yea, kidofspeed.com, it's just a parked website with only advertising on it.
<0> liable: no, 10am is not a change of date.
<2> kspath: i am actually a pilot so i deal with utc time every day, and yes, it is a pain in the ***.
<4> imaek: or seq (man seq) or even perl printf to
<6> okay
<6> Thank you.
<2> Supaplex: oh, you dont see the photos?
<7> imaek, there is allways the numberpad function in php in which you can call from the command line.
<0> liable: you are not getting it still. everywhere would be UTC. and AM and PM are silly when you can just use 00:00 => 23:59
<8> when linux allocates /dev/sda /dev/sdb etc, how does it allocate the a, b, c etc? does it directly map controller1 -> a, controller 2 -> b etc or does it just take a, b, c setc sequentially from populated channels?
<8> i.e., if i didnt have a drive on controller port 2, would i get a, b, d or would i get a, b, c ?
<4> liable: nope. It looks like one of those 'typo-squatter' websites. nothing useful at all.
<0> liable: You would not be converting time zones. some parts of the world would be wide awake and full day light at 01:00
<3> MrNaz: sequentially
<3> MrNaz: hd? for IDE is different, though
<0> liable: in other words... The whole earth one time zone of UTC.
<2> kspath: yes, and that is stupid for the reasons i explained
<7> MrNaz, hd[x] for IDE and sd[x] for scsi/sata
<8> \amethyst these are SATA
<2> Supaplex: oh, i will try and get the actuall link then
<3> MrNaz: hm.. it *should* still be sequential
<8> linux 2.6 kernels treat sata like scsi iirc
<3> MrNaz: I prefer to use /dev/disks/
<3> MrNaz: that way reordering devices doesn't cause problems
<4> what, you don't have the uuid of all your partitions memorized?
<2> Supaplex: http://www.kiddofspeed.com/
<4> ;)
<8> \amethyst ok so if my /dev/sdb is reporting badblocks, how do i know which physical drive to remove and replace?
<7> Supaplex, I do on my server rofl!
<8> is it *definately* sata1 ?
<7> MrNaz, sdb is your second controller
<9> does anyone here have a script to automate the ifup process for wireless: searching in iwlist, selecting from list bla bla...
<3> MrNaz: hdparm -i might give you some info
<3> MrNaz: I don't know how SATA is set up exactly
<7> MrNaz, sda is your primary sata controller
<8> is there a command that can output a list of all drives?
<8> kizmet yes, so is sdb the primary controller's second disk, or the secondary controller's first disk?
<7> MrNaz, as SATA can only have one disk per channel SDA is your disk attached to your primary SATA port and SDB is the disk attached to the secondary port.
<8> kizmet i apologise for wanting absolute clarity and acting niggly and dumb in the process, but out of sata0, sata0, sata2 and sata3.... /dev/sdb is *definately* going to mean sata1 correct?
<7> yes.
<8> i mean sata0, sata1, sata2 and sata3
<8> ok thanks
<10> ok guys, i've looked at some of the stuff dpkg has mentioned about services and init, i just cant find a FULL detailed explanation on the debian website about understanding sysv.
<10> you guys basically ***ume everyone learned linux services one way.
<10> i understand run levels just fine, its just the way debian manages them, i'm having a hard time finding references that sort it out for me.
<10> any references (NOT MANPAGES) that help me out before i download this net install iso?
<7> unix_infidel, ahm install the netinstall iso and work it out like the rest of us have ?
<6> If I have an integer variable, how do I increment it?
<3> imaek: in bash $((foo++))
<10> kizmet: i have a bottle of C6H6 here, wanna sniff?
<10> :)
<3> imaek: which expands to the new variable
<10> i'd like to find out what i'm getting into before i dive in.
<7> unix_infidel, nar i'll be right cheers.
<10> heh, anyone be so kind as to point me to some references on sysv, i've tried tldp, debian.org and havent been able to find anything.
<7> unix_infidel, http://www.google.com/search?q=Debian%20Run%20Levels
<7> :P
<6> \amethyst, that doesn't work.
<3> imaek: if you just want to ***ign, let foo="foo + 1"
<10> kizmet: Did you mean: Debian RunLevels
<10> see, even google doubts your competence.
<10> :P
<7> unix_infidel, yes *yawn*
<7> damn mozilla-firefox package!!!!
<11> does any one suggest a decent fax server software which deals with email-to-fax and fax-to-email?
<7> mist, http://www.asterisk.org
<7> heh
<11> it support both ?
<7> mist, http://www.voip-info.org
<7> mist, pretty sure it can :)
<11> I HAVE ASTERfax IN MY LIST, BUT ITS ONLY FOR EMAIL-TO-FAX
<11> oops
<7> mist, there are debian packages for it however they are a little out-dated
<7> mist, have a look at http://www.voip-info.org
<11> ok kizmet
<7> mist, there is #asterisk too
<11> thx kizmet :)
<7> np mist.
<7> brb
<12> my xserver (xorg) fails saying (EE) No devices detected. then later "no screens found" I tried redoing the nvidia install, it failed. Any help?
<12> it failed as in did not fix anything
<8> \amethyst hdparm apparently doesnt work with sata drives... is there a similar prog that gives info on sata drives?
<13> weird, i get 169.254 addresses consistently instead of the expected 192.168.1 addresses
<13> on two different machines
<2> check your routers settings then
<7> starfishy, Windows machines on the network ? One may be running as a DHCP server causing conflicts.
<13> kizmet: no windows machines whatsoever
<13> i checked both my server and my notebook for active dhcp servers
<13> neither has one running
<14> What about your router?
<13> i can see the dhcp dialog and that a 192.168.1 address is ***igned
<2> then what
<13> my router is running the only dhcp server in my network
<13> but if i look at the ip address with ifconfig i see 169.254.80.88
<13> also after the dhcp dialog there is a pregnant pause
<15> im having a similar problem
<13> if i do an ifdown-ifup the result is the same
<13> if i manually ***ign an ip address it works
<15> but im still in the shell, and when i ifconfig, i get 127.0.0.1 and i need to change it to 192.168
<14> So your routers dhcp isnt working properly, or they cant properly communicate with it
<16> whats the latest testing codename?
<17> how do you get aptitude to install a package without screwing everything else up? (like, say, removing a bunch of completely unrelated packages and upgrading some more.)
<15> well obviously its working correctly if a mac can connect to it
<13> my router's dhcp has worked ok for a year now
<15> and 3 other window machines
<13> i doubt its the router's fault
<13> i suspect 2.6.15.x
<15> now i changed my interfaces file
<2> fairway: etch
<16> k
<15> changed the auto eth0
<15> and iface eth0 inet dhcp
<15> but now it does some weird ****
<2> evilgeek: upgrade instead of dist-upgrade..
<17> (i say "aptitude install djview" and suddenly it wants to remove KDE and upgrade xsidplay.)
<2> kde is a mets package
<2> meta
<13> evilgeek: then there is some conflict between your package and kde
<16> linux ****s
<18> Hi, I have a makefile question about iterating over rule arguments: http://sial.org/pbot/16022
<17> liable: it's unclear how aptitude upgrade will help.
<2> if it want to upgrade ****, then obviously theres **** to be upgraded..
<15> now my problem is that during my installation with debian, it didnt find a network, and i thought maybe i would be able to fix it after.. but my problem now is that i cant install the packages, because they were downloaded in the first place! so i need to fix my network configuration and then download the packages
<15> my question is, how do i do that?
<17> liable: there is. i want to install a package, holding everything unrelated.
<19> anybody try nohup before? i dont know the exact way to do it but i want to run a script, say cyzie.sh with nohup. anybody can help?
<2> why? so you can get rooted?
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