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<0> foo: you are booting a stock debian kernel from the 2.6.15-1-686
<1> but i already removed the partion
<0> foo: unless you used an EXTRAVERSION of "-1-686" intentionally
<1> that VL was running on.
<2> Kovecses: could you check your modutil/alsa* settings for snd-hda-intel ?
<3> Coke: ok
<4> \amethyst: hm, I don't think that kernel was out when I built 2.6.11. heh. Let me try this ... I think this is the source I used.
<5> foo: You're not even running 2.6.11
<4> Wyzard: Why do you say that? uname says I am...
<4> hm
<0> foo: did you see the output of uname -a ?
<0> 2.6.15-1-i686
<5> foo: Linux box 2.6.15-1-686 #1 Fri Feb 10 15:49:07 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
<4> AHHHH
<5> hehe
<0> err s/-i/-/
<4> Err. Sorry guys, I pased that from my desktop system by accident.
<4> heh
<6> I have a laptop that I purchased from a friend that has debian installed on it along with an ungodly number of packages. Is there a way to return the debian installation to a base install using the package management system without reinstalling the OS?
<0> heh
<4> Laptop just says 2.6.11
<4> err, sorry
<5> and no suffix like "-1-686" ?
<0> I always use some kind of extraversion, usually my initials
<7> hello. More or less a "useless" question: how do you find out when your OS was installed?
<2> Kovecses: do you have any specific options for snd-hda-intel?
<3> Coke: no
<5> Coke: nor do I
<3> Coke: how are you loading the module?
<8> 2006-02-25 21:53:00 1FD6PU-0007at-SA <= mike@rysiek.ath.cx U=mike P=local S=324
<8> Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 1
<8> ok, trying again with the mail problem: I've got exim4 installed on Deb Sarge, and sending as root works AOK, but when I try to send a mail (using the "mail" command) as a "regular" user, I get:
<8> 2006-02-25 21:53:00 1FD6PU-0007at-SA <= mike@rysiek.ath.cx U=mike P=local S=324
<8> Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 1
<8> ****, sorry for the double post :/
<4> Bah. This kernel-source-2.6.11 only has a drivers directory. Weird.
<9> it's ok
<2> Kovecses: modprobe snd-hda-intel
<10> hi, why doesnt debian execute the .bash_profile if i login via ssh?
<5> foo: If you still have the kernel configuration file (in /boot/config-2.6.11 or /proc/config.gz), you could re-extract the 2.6.11 source tree and reconfigure it using the saved config file
<7> so no one knows how to find the installation date :p?
<3> Coke: yeah try and load it at boot time.... i know that sounds stupid .. but
<5> snowshelbi: You could look at the creation timestamp on something like /bin (the directory itself) that's unlikely to have been changed since the system was installed
<0> snowshelbi: well
<4> Wyzard: Hmm, ok. Just grab the 2.6.11 source tree from kernel.org ? I suppose
<3> Coke: have you installed alsa-utils?
<0> snowshelbi: I don't know of a *sane* way
<11> foo: are the headers available for the kernel you are running, that usually suffices.
<5> foo: You should use the same source tree the current kernel was actually compiled from... kernel.org, Debian kernel-source package, whatever
<2> Kovecses: yep.
<4> vin`: No
<3> Coke: try starting at boot... did your run alsaconf
<5> vin`: Not for a custom kernel -- the idea is that you need a set of headers whose configuration actually matches that of the current running kernel
<0> snowshelbi: you can look for the oldest files in etc and rule out outliers :)
<5> vin`: A Debian kernel-headers package wouldn't match a custom kernel
<3> Wyzard: if you have the kernel source ... headers are not needed
<4> Wyzard: Hmm, I think it was kernel.org ... because I don't see a kernel-source for 2.6.11 in apt-cache
<0> snowshelbi: preferably looking at the ctime,
<5> Kovecses: Well, more accurately, the kernel source tree contains the headers :-)
<3> Wyzard: very true
<5> foo: dpkg -s kernel-image-2.6.11
<11> Wyzard: I didn't it was a custom kernel.
<4> Wyzard: No results on that
<5> Kovecses: But my point was just that you can't install a Debian kernel-headers package and expect to use it to compile modules for a custom kernel
<0> snowshelbi: For example, on my machine ls -lctr /etc | head -2 gives me
<0> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26 2002-06-30 20:04 host.conf
<11> *know
<3> Wyzard: oh ... of course not sorry i misunderstood
<5> foo: So you didn't use kernel-package, and probably didn't use a Debian kernel-source package either
<0> snowshelbi: and this install dates from summer 2002
<11> Wyzard: with a custom kernel, the sources he has should suffice.
<4> Wyzard: No, and because of that, I think I'll grab a more recent kernel-source, patch it, and just build that.
<3> right
<5> foo: You know, rather than trying to recreate your old kernel source tree, this would be a good opportunity to just upgrade to 2.6.15 :-)
<4> Wyzard: heh, yup
<11> or .16-rc-4
<7> yep, I check the creation date of /bin
<12> sup?
<0> snowshelbi: err
<0> snowshelbi: the ctime on /bin will be the last time a file was added to it
<3> damn new kernel versions fly off the shelf
<0> snowshelbi: ctime isn't creation time, but inode change time
<10> why isnt .bashrc executed, when i login via ssh on debian etch?
<0> mrverbose: does your .bash_profile source your .bashrc ?
<7> well, that answers my question. Thanks folks
<13> how do i mount a device (ipod) with write permissions? using hfsplus atm
<10> \amethyst: yes, thats why i think that my .bash_profile isnt executed
<14> Recently I decided to take advantage of my 24/7 linux server so i wanted to download some things off bit torrent. Without thinking I automatically installed x-windows-core and KDE. The linux is headless however and no mouse or keyboard is attached so I cannot get X to work. How can I byp*** this and start x?
<15> arsen: linux has rw support for hfsplus
<0> mrverbose: is bash your shell?
<13> how ?:x
<10> \amethyst: yes
<13> i did mount -t hfsplus <ipod>
<6> I have a laptop that I purchased from a friend that has debian installed on it along with an ungodly number of packages. Is there a way to return the debian installation to a base install using the package management system without reinstalling the OS?
<15> arsen: and...?
<3> ParoXsitiC: there is no keyboard?
<10> \amethyst: and i can source it manually
<10> but thats not what i want
<13> i can get on it.. but its mounted as "read only"
<3> ParoXsitiC: hard to do anything with no keyboard
<13> or .. read only filesystem.
<14> Kovecses: no I do everything with SSH from another computer
<5> ParoXsitiC: What's the point in installing X on a system if you're not actually going to interact with the GUI?
<16> hellllllllllo there!
<15> arsen: check /var/log/messages if everything went ok
<0> arsen: -o rw perhaps
<5> ParoXsitiC: If you want to run X apps on it and view them remotely, use vncserver
<14> Wyzard: I currently used SSH from another computer to control it. With X up i'd use vncserver to control the gui
<3> ParoXsitiC: oh well ... edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf or similar ... and in the mouse and keyboard sections .. change them to /dev/null .... is my guess
<0> Wyzard: you need to install X to run X apps from the server
<13> cheers, il try both, let you know
<5> ParoXsitiC: vncserver acts as its own X server... you don't need XFree86/Xorg
<0> ah
<16> i have a slight problem, i download netinstall CD-Image for AMD64 Sarge, but i only have dvd roms to write on, and it wont let me write this iso to DVD, it wasnt CD-R, what to do? Is there any netinstall images for DVD?
<10> \amethyst: if i login as root the adequate .bashrc is executed
<2> Kovecses: so you do not explicitly set model= in your modules.conf for that sound card?
<5> ParoXsitiC: You need the core X libraries, but there's no need to actually run an X server that talks to the video card or keyboard or mouse
<17> I am having trouble converting my debian sarge system over to kernel 2.6.8-2-smp. I have sucessfuly done so on other systems. The error(s) are pivot_root: file(or did it say device) not found then init says cannot find dev/console then Kernel panic.
<0> mrverbose: are permissions on your .bashrc sane?
<3> Coke: no
<13> using -o rw seems to of mounted ok..
<17> The system boots fine under 2.4, and i suspect the issue is that my root partition is logical and is named hde5 for some reason even though it is on a sata drive (with other partitions named sdaX)
<13> ill try again ;x
<5> hecate355: There should be nothing wrong with writing a CD-sized iso to a DVD... the DVD just won't be full, that's all
<0> ParoXsitiC: the X server runs on the machine with the monitor
<0> ParoXsitiC: you can use xvfb if you really need a headless X server
<10> \amethyst: 644 like they should be
<0> there are some Java daemons that require it
<10> since .bash_profile is only sourced as well
<0> mrverbose: ?
<0> mrverbose: only sourced?
<10> \amethyst: i hope so
<14> amethyst: Which solution is most viable, vncserver with X libs or xvfb
<5> navaburo: How'd you manage to get one partition named "hde5" on a disk whose other partitions are all of the "sd" variety?
<10> since on another debian box the permissions are the same and it works there
<0> ParoXsitiC: if you want to run X apps off the server remotely, you don't need either of those, just the X libs
<16> Wyzard but it just doesnt work, i downloaded the file from : http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-amd64-netinst.iso and now Nero tells me that i need CD-Rom for this ISO file, wont let me write it on a DVD-R
<0> ParoXsitiC: if you want to do so through vnc rather than X protocol, probably vncserver
<0> mrverbose: Is there anything funny about your .bashrc or .bash_profile at all?
<5> hecate355: Well, that's a fault of Nero... there's probably a way to suppress that behavior; if not, use a different burning program
<0> mrverbose: because otherwise I don't know... it works here too
<17> Wyzard: i am not sure, but some other ppl on forums also have such (hdeX on sata drive)
<14> amethyst: I just want to run a GUI bit torrent client remotely and use as litttle resources as possible. I have tried some of the console bittorrent clients and they are no good and confusing IMHO
<10> \amethyst: not that i would know
<5> navaburo: Shouldn't happen afaik... and what's probably happening with the new kernel is that it's seeing the drive with the correct name (sda5 or whatever) so trying to mount hde5 fails
<10> same .bash_profile /.bashrc works for root
<0> ParoXsitiC: ah, and you want the server's bandwidth... How fast is your connection to the server?
<0> ParoXsitiC: if the answer isn't at least T1 both ways, use either lbxproxy
<13> nkuttler it said in /var/blabha/messages that it had mounted it as read only, even though i specified -o rw
<17> ok...
<0> ParoXsitiC: but I think lbxproxy runs on the client, not the server
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