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<0> So, is Radeon 9200 still the fastest 3D card with free accelerated drivers?
<1> iNAP: Once you have your system set up and working with that, you install the proprietary driver and switch X over to use it
<2> I'm looking at my kernel/sound/pci/hda directory and see some files named patch_<chipset>.c, are these patches applied already or how do I use them?
<3> yeah i understand that.. but the commands listen up there.. module-***istant.. like whats that?
<1> iNAP: module-***istant is a tool for compiling third-party kernel modules... it's a package
<3> oh..
<4> hi, anybody use gcj with swingWT??
<3> so it downloads the driver automatically?
<5> iNAP, yes. come in here later. really. dont worry about it now
<3> ok.
<1> Coke: Those aren't patches in the sense you're thinking of
<2> Wyzard: but the changes in them are in effect?
<6> does anybody know the proper place to put snd_pcm_oss in /etc/modules or can i just put it anywhere?
<7> hi there, guys
<8> Kovecses: /etc/modules
<9> I'm thinking of buying a wine pkg from cedega or codeweavers. Is there any comparison somewhere between the two? Is anyone better on a Debian system?
<0> Kovecses: the order in that file is the order the modules will be loaded on boot
<1> Coke: I'm not sure exactly what those files are, but they aren't patches -- they don't represent "changes" to be applied to an existing codebase
<7> got a mail/exim4 problem on Sarge here, maybe someone can help:
<8> zenwryly: no clue.
<5> zenwryly, codeweavers is more for general apps and cedega is more for games. pick what you'll use more
<1> Coke: They're just ordinary code
<0> Kovecses: unless it has to be loaded before some other hardware for some obscure reason
<6> \amethyst: yeah i know... so when do i want that to load?
<0> Kovecses: doesn't really matter
<6> \amethyst: ok thanks
<8> Kovecses: and botch ****
<7> when trying to send an email as a normal user, withthe mail command, I get the following:
<7> Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 1
<2> Wyzard: Hm. I've been failing to get this HDA ALSA driver working, no success at all.
<8> cedega dont even work
<7> any ideas?
<9> markybob: like one of my concerns is googleearth. I could see that in either category.
<8> rysiek: that doesnt say much
<6> Coke: hda? like the intel sound driver?
<7> well tell me what you need to know
<5> rysiek, check /var/log/mail.err
<2> Kovecses: yep.
<6> Coke: its easy
<7> ok, checking now
<6> Coke: are you using sarge
<1> Coke: I have a Thinkpad Z60m with an HDA audio controller, and "modprobe snd-hda-intel" was all I needed
<2> I get all devices "working", but alsamixer fails to load the mixer.
<2> Kovecses: etch
<2> Wyzard: if only I was so lucky.
<6> Coke: waht version of alsa?
<5> zenwryly, that doesnt run on either
<10> how can I make a process start when my machine boots?
<1> Coke: I'm using sid with kernel 2.6.15 though... no idea how well older versions would work
<6> sanmarcos: what process?
<2> Kovecses & Wyzard: I've built a custom 2.6.15.4 kernel, I have snd-hda-intel/codec loaded, both capture and playback devices are working, but mixer isn't.
<9> markybob: damn! Ok thanks.
<2> Kovecses: whatever version is distributed with the 2.6.15.4 kernel.
<6> Coke: the mixer doesnt work if you have alsa and the hda driver compilied into the kernel
<10> Kovecses: a script of mine
<1> Kovecses: Only if it's built as modules?
<2> Kovecses: that sounds insane.
<5> zenwryly, use this to search for apps and see how well they work in codeweavers. http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search/
<6> Coke: its built as a module?
<6> Coke: sounds insane yes... but thats how it is
<3> whats the command to get xchat, apt-get install xchat ?
<6> Coke: you want to build it as a module
<1> weird :-)
<10> how can I make a process start when my machine boots?
<9> markybob: thanks
<0> iNAP: yes, I prefer to use aptitude to apt-get, though
<2> Kovecses: snd-hda-intel is.
<6> Coke: oh it is
<7> Feb 25 21:44:37 serwek exim[28824]: 2006-02-25 21:44:37 1FD6HN-0007Uu-Mo failed to write to main log: length=124 result=-1 errno=9 (Bad
<7> file descriptor)
<7> Feb 25 21:44:37 serwek exim[28824]: write failed on panic log: length=117 result=-1 errno=9 (Bad file descriptor)
<1> Kovecses: You sound like you have experience with the HDA... have you experienced any crackling noise or latency from yours?
<3> so aptitude install xchat
<6> Coke: hmm
<7> markybob: here's what I got from mail.err:
<11> iNAP: there's not just one command that can do that
<0> sanmarcos: at what point in the boot process should it run?
<2> Kovecses: yep, everything is modular.
<6> Wyzard: only on older alsa drivers
<7> Feb 25 21:44:37 serwek exim[28824]: 2006-02-25 21:44:37 1FD6HN-0007Uu-Mo failed to write to main log: length=124 result=-1 errno=9 (Bad
<7> file descriptor)
<9> markybob: do you use codeweavers?
<10> \amethyst: after most crucial services are started
<5> zenwryly, yes
<6> Wyzard: the new alsa drivers and ones built into newer kernels have not givin me trouble
<1> Kovecses: I'm using the ALSA in the latest linux-source-2.6.15 in sid... and I get significant crackling under some (but not all) circumstances
<9> markybob: and I take it you find it worthwhile over usind the OSS versions available?
<10> \amethyst: ?
<0> sanmarcos: You can write an init script, read /etc/init.d/README and the documents it refers to
<5> zenwryly, for normal users, yes. i dont have any windows apps that i need, but i'm an advocate so i test crossover and give them reports about different apps from work and how well they perform
<1> Kovecses: If I set GStreamer to use OSS emulation it crackles; if I set it to use ALSA natively it doesn't; sound from mplayer crackles if it's using the ALSA "hw" or "plughw" device directly, but not if it's going through dmix
<10> \amethyst: great /sacarsm
<9> markybob: ok, thanks
<0> sanmarcos: it's not too hard
<2> Kovecses: did you build your kernel and alsa separately?
<6> Wyzard: thats strange i have had that happen... but it hasnt happened in a while
<12> Hmm, VMware is asking me to where the location of the directory of C header files is that match my running kernel. Where do I get these from? Hmm.
<0> sanmarcos: copy one of the smaller existing init scripts and edit it
<6> Coke: well .... i have done it both ways
<5> foo, apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
<12> markybob: hm, thanks
<0> sanmarcos: man start-stop-daemon will help
<1> foo: "kernel-headers" on sarge, or "linux-headers" with the newer kernels in etch and sid
<6> Coke: but right now alsa is built into the kernel with snd_hda_intel as a module
<1> foo: Install the one that matches your running kernel package
<7> deadcat: I've got this from mail.err:
<7> failed to write to main log: length=124 result=-1 errno=9 (Bad
<7> file descriptor)
<0> sanmarcos: then you can do update-rc.d scriptname start 99 2 3 4 5 . stop 01 0 1 6
<7> and then almost the same for "panic log"
<0> err
<2> Kovecses: what chipset do you have?
<12> Wyzard: Couldn't find that package
<0> sanmarcos: add another period to the end of that line
<6> Wyzard: Coke: also the oss drivers from opensound.com work really good with our soundcard
<6> Coke: ich6
<6> Coke: intel of course
<1> foo: There are actually multiple packages, with the kernel version number and variant in the name... use "apt-cache search"
<1> Kovecses: More annoying is the latency due to the default configuration of dmix, though by tweaking it in ~/.asoundrc I've improved on that
<3> i have a problem, when i turn on my computer, i get the dual boot screen of lilo, when i was running VL, and i removed the partion that VL was running on, how do i remove the lilo dual booter?
<2> Kovecses: do you have the options with position_fix=1 ?
<12> Wyzard: To be honest, I have. I thought I built this kernel a while back .. but if I did that I'd have the source. Kind of confused. I'm on 2.6.11. I built the kernel because I needed to patch my drivers for my orinoco card for kismet to get into monitor mode
<6> Wyzard: yeah i dont know much about dmix
<1> foo: What does "uname -r" say?
<12> Wyzard: I'm on 2.6.11 ...
<1> foo: Right, but Debian's precompiled kernels have a suffix like "-686-1" or whatever
<0> foo: what about uname -a, it will tell how and where it was compiled
<12> \amethyst: Linux box 2.6.15-1-686 #1 Fri Feb 10 15:49:07 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
<6> 2.6.11 kernels seem to be very popular
<0> hm..
<12> Wyzard: Yeah, I think I made this kernel. hm
<12> hmm. Oh, I think I know what I did.
<1> foo: And you don't have the source in /usr/src ?
<0> foo: looks like you used kernel-package, that's good
<12> I made a .deb out of this kernel I did ... and I installed the .deb ... that's why I don't have the source. I reinstalled debian on my laptop
<12> Wyzard: hm, nope
<13> !sunday
<14> Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane.
<12> kernel-source-2.6.1
<12> Wait ... I got it on my nfs mount
<1> foo: Wait, nm, I just noticed what you pasted... you're running a precompiled kernel
<12> I suppose I could copy that over. I'll try that
<0> Wyzard: no, kernel-package will do that too
<1> not by default
<0> oh, right
<0> the -1-
<3> i have a problem, when i turn on my computer, i get the dual boot screen of lilo, when i was running VL, and i removed the partion that VL was running on, how do i remove the lilo dual booter?
<1> I use linux-source and kernel-package and my version number is simply "2.6.15"
<15> use grub yo
<6> iNAP: edit lilo.conf?
<0> foo: you are booting a stock debian kernel from the 2.6.15-1-686
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