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<0> wols: no
<1> ok
<2> wols: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15
<1> yeah just found the last 3 days
<0> !tell wols about custom netinst
<0> wols: if you think that .. you don't understand debian/stable
<1> problem is they are probably broke too
<0> use a CDRW!
<3> stable is fine and good, just no use when someone wants to install it on their cool new sata capable righ :)
<3> this is not so much of a problem anymore, but it was under woody for example
<0> SATA works in sarge FFS
<0> i use it every damn day
<1> abrotman: not _ALL_ sata
<0> of course not .. not ALL sata was out when sarge was released
<3> read both lines I wrote not only the first
<1> nforce 430 is a very recent chipset



<4> lmao
<1> Hell. I'm on that machine now
<1> the prob is I had to go a long out of the way route to get here
<1> and I'm out of ide drives to install to
<4> 2.6.15 will be in dccri 3.1
<0> you can use the custom netinst stuff to make a sarge installerw with a newer kernel .. the sarge 2.6.15 stuff uses yaird .. but you can use it
<4> and xorg 7.0 I believe
<0> Shai-tan: we don't give a **** .. go away
<4> lolz
<1> abrotman: got a link to the netinst builder page?
<0> Shai-tan: it will not be debian .and it's off topic here ..
<0> !tell Tenkawa about custom netinst
<0> !tell Tenkawa about sarge 2.6.12
<0> !tell Tenkawa about sarge 2.6.14
<0> !tell Tenkawa about sarge 2.6.15
<1> thanks
<5> people... problem :S... startx: command not foud :o
<4> this is why Id never be a debian maintainer.... to much negativity...... Ill go right after i try that /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15
<0> Shai-tan: then go away .. please ..
<5> i'm running sid
<1> abrotman: ooh. that looks like it might have what I need
<0> Henry_Bean: apt-get install x-window-system-core
<1> the sarge 2.6.15 one
<1> dloading it now
<4> dcc-x11 which is xorg
<0> Tenkawa: it uses yaird afaik ... normal sarge has no yaird
<2> Henry_Bean: installed xbase-clients?
<0> !ops Shai-tan OT and trolling
<6> Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Shai-tan OT and trolling
<1> hopefully I can find at least one nic that is readable
<1> heheheheh
<5> abrotman, i remove, install and reinstall all common packages for the right function of an X server...
<1> got a bunch of oddball nics around here
<0> Henry_Bean: apt-get install x-window-system-core
<3> abrotman: sorry to say it but the only negative trolling one here is you right now if anyone
<0> oh ffs ..
<0> wols: DCC is OT ..
<0> wols: just like ubuntu
<2> Henry_Bean: dpkg -l xbase-clients
<4> lmao
<0> not you ****tard
<5> vin, yes, is installed
<7> As Salaam e laikum :) (means: Peace b upon u) ............. http://www.submission.org/ .............. [112:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful [112:1] Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD. [112:2] "The Absolute GOD. [112:3] "Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten. [112:4] "None equals Him."
<0> !find startx sid
<0> !ops im_a_muslim spamming the channel with religious crap
<6> Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: im_a_muslim spamming the channel with religious crap
<6> Debian Search of 'startx' (4): (/usr/bin/startxfce4) in x11/xfce4-utils ;; (/usr/X11R6/bin/startx) in x11/xbase-clients ;; (/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/startx) in misc/ltsp-client ;; (/usr/share/selinux/policy/default/domains/misc/startx.te) in admin/selinux-policy-default.
<5> abrotman, x-window-system-core is installed too
<4> I dont see how talking about Debian as an outdated base is offtopic
<0> Shai-tan: you're talking about DCC .. that is not debian
<4> ok I wont from now on
<5> yes, is the same output i get with apt-file search startx
<0> Henry_Bean: updatedb && locate startx
<4> What kernel is etch comming out with?
<0> dunno yet it's not released
<1> afk.. abrotman and others thanks for the help
<1> wish me luck
<3> Shai-tan: I doubt ti will be decided for a looong time
<1> I'll be back in 15 or so



<5> abrotman... thanks, running...
<8> Many a flamewar will be had
<4> cool will it be gcc 4.0 compiled cause that will be a clue to what version....
<8> !htfswk
<3> resiak: and the result will invariably please no one and be called "outdated" before the isos even hit the presses
<6> How The **** Should We Know?
<0> holy crap
<0> if you're all so unhappy with debian .. stop using it .. go use something else
<2> Linux version 2.6.16-rc4-22.2 (root@air) (gcc version 4.0.3 20060212 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-9)) #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 22 18:49:06 AST 2006
<8> wols: even though it will work just fine.
<4> Hey Im not unhappy with it
<9> !udev
<6> well, udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable
<10> can someone tell me how to change from GRUB to Lilo please? can I do it through apt?
<3> resiak: for the first 6 months or perhaps a year. then the non-support of new chipsets will creep in again :(
<0> !wine wols
<3> Daemon666: install lilo, then configure your lilo.conf and run /sbin/lilo
<7> As Salaam e laikum :) (means: Peace b upon u) ............. http://www.submission.org/ .............. [112:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful [112:1] Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD. [112:2] "The Absolute GOD. [112:3] "Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten. [112:4] "None equals Him."
<0> Daemon666: install lilo .. then remove grub .. but make sure you configure lilo .. it's a pain sometimes
<10> will apt not configure it for me?
<2> wols: then you use testing or an official etch d-i, either way I agree with you, there should be better options at handling kernels.
<0> !afo
<6> asg for ops!
<4> yeah Ive tested etch
<4> not bad
<2> Daemon666: what's wrong with grub?
<8> im_a_muslim: That's offtopic. Please don't spam the channel.
<0> im_a_muslim: i hope jesus ****s your mother
<4> before it went even more unstable anyway
<10> vin' nothing but i want to try out lilo as well cos ive never used it
<3> resiak: bots don't have ears. and malicious trolls like hnot even when they are human
<8> wols: Hey, I can hope.
<3> Daemon666: don't. not worth the h***le
<2> !grand
<6> It's not called the GRAND Unified Bootloader for nothing.
<4> Ill be changing my servers to etch based when it comes out
<5> abrotman, i found it at /usr/X11R6/bin/startx when i run it tells... exec: /usr/bin/X11/X: cannot execute: No such file or directory
<8> !install x
<6> install xf4 is, like, apt-get install read-edid mdetect discover; apt-get install x-window-system-core (plus whatever window manager you like, etc.), or ask me about "set up x", or "configure xf4"
<8> ^^^
<3> resiak: if you do, I have a nice bridge to sell. The easterbunny endorses it :)
<0> Henry_Bean: is xserver-xorg installed ?
<8> wols: :)
<0> Henry_Bean: x-window-system-core should have done it all for you
<5> abrotman, yes it is
<0> !find bin/X11/X sid
<5> abrotman, x-window-system-core is installed and recently reinstalled :(
<0> Henry_Bean: that's a metapackage though .. try reinstalling xserver-xorg
<5> abrotman, done, but nothing fix :(
<0> oh
<2> Henry_Bean: what is broken? still no startx?
<0> it should be in xserver-xorg
<11> any good dsl modem resources for learning about concepts, like what pvc, vpi, vci etc means?
<5> vin, yes, still no startx in /usr/bin i have it at /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
<2> Henry_Bean: what does dpkg -L xbase-clients |grep startx say?
<0> his startx says X isn't executable
<4> hey wols you use any IM?
<5> vin, usr/X11R6/man/man1/startx.1x.gz and usr/X11R6/bin/startx
<2> Henry_Bean: any errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
<11> Henry_Bean : look for EE lines in Xorg.0.log
<12> im looking for an gmailfs user becaus i cant seem to get it working :S
<9> how to know if I have problem with my kernel >2.6.12 and udev? I think I have one
<8> Why do you think that?
<13> hy tlm
<14> Hey guys I just bought a domain from www.godaddy.com. I want to run my own DNS Server, so I can host my own dns (www.blah.com) so i went to a dynamic dns place, a pointed namesrv1.stranged.net and namesrv2.strangled.net to my ip, i login to godaddy and try and set them as my nameserver IP's for that domain and it wont accept them, how the heck do i do this??
<11> Zitter : dmesg? syslog? kernel.log?
<0> vin`: he said when he runs startx .. whines that /usr/bin/X or whatever isn't executable
<10> can someone tell me how i check if ive installed lilo properly before i reboot?
<15> Run lilo and see if it says anything's wrong.
<8> Daemon666: just use grub.. seriously. It's not worth it
<4> good old gnu apps are better
<11> Phated : I think he means his lilo.conf ;-)


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