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<0> chealer: but etch doesn't have that, only libmysqlclient15off
<1> mornfall: okay :)
<2> jeez xorg 7.1 was released
<2> They're pumping out the releases
<1> mo1991: I don't know. I personally use chroot.
<3> tralala: there http://pastebin.com/734692
<4> how to force filesystem to re-calculate free space ?
<5> anyone?
<6> bueller?
<7> mark_: well it's a choice, you can either install ...15 or ...15off. installing ...15 may be non-trivial in current Etch
<8> ferris?
<0> chealer: enh
<9> can anyone tell me a command to end all print jobs on the printer?
<0> chealer: installing from source then i guess
<10> brownie17: depends on the printing system
<5> i wanted to know if sarge is the latest stable debian dist? why does it only use kernel 2.4?
<9> callee, do you know the URL for that printer config page?
<11> shaibn: yes it is, and it has a choice of 2.4 or 2.6
<9> callee, i thought it was something like http://127.0.0.1, but that's not it
<1> Teddy: The log looks alright. So you're saying that the screen is still black and no pointer?
<3> tralala: yes
<11> brownie17: http://127.0.0.1:631
<8> shaibn: by default it comes with 2.4 but it has a 2.6.8 precompiled, you can install it
<12> I've got an annoying error in mu logs, see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=447640
<7> mark_: rebuilding your package looks like the best idea, but we can't help you building random stuff (unless you explain something going wrong and it's a generic problem)
<8> shaibn: if you want to install debian sarge/stable with a 2.6 just mention : linux26 at install time
<9> blondie, you know that off by heart?
<11> brownie17: yes...
<10> brownie17: what printing system is it?
<13> i think im being hacked atm
<13> and im not kidding
<13> netstat -a gives me strange stuff
<10> RvGaTe: best is to cut your internet connection as a preemptive actioin
<14> well... I'd suggest unplugging the network all together and carefully reviewing your logs
<1> RvGaTe: shut donw the computer, quickly!
<15> hi, I have a problem with my debian install and I have posted my message up on the debian.net forums. Perhaps somebody here can help me out though. Heres the message http://fourums.debian.net/viewforum.php?f=17
<10> RvGaTe: do not shut it down! pull the plug!
<5> Azar, thanks :)
<13> cmon dudes
<15> Sorry misspell http://forums.debian.net/viewforum.php?f=17
<13> i first have to figure out if im really being hacked
<9> why would you choose to use 2.4?
<10> meaning shutdown may also be a problem itself in case someone modified the contents of shutdown-scripts/bootscripts
<1> Teddy: do you have x-window-system installed?
<15> its the first message --screen throwing out hex
<14> if your network cable isn't plugged in, i guarantee you are not being hacked :P
<3> nope
<3> sorry tralala: nope
<10> etrask: you can always sleep well knowing your computer is protected by scisssors
<10> ;)
<1> Teddy: top X, install it, start X
<1> stop
<14> It's a good rule of thumb
<13> http://pastebin.com/734708 <- the thing that bothers me is the sunrpc, 618, 621
<1> etrask: I don't use network cables. Does this mean I'll never get hacked?
<14> not remotely, unless you've got a wireless card :P
<1> exactly!
<14> well, I don't
<10> tralala: well, lets say as long as you do not put in current plug there will not be a problem even with a wireless card in your box
<14> [have a wireless card]
<16> hell
<16> hello
<16> 9 t X |t
<13> ehmm
<13> ?
<16> huk.. sorry..
<10> http://www.dumbentia.com/pdflib/scissors.pdf <-- 100% secure firewall :)
<1> callee: yeah :)
<9> Azar, what benefits does 2.4 have that 2.6 doesn't?
<3> tralala: no luck still
<3> i checked the kdm logs and the xorg logs and couldnt find an error, only warnings
<1> Teddy: you mean you have installed kde already?
<17> Libra102, that look's vary good :)
<3> yes
<7> brownie17: its level of stability, most importantly
<8> brownie17: is just adds more hardware/drivers support
<16> :-)
<7> Azar: he was talking about *2.4* vs 2.6
<3> tralala: i installed kde after installing xorg when i thought it was working
<13> no alert, no hacker, wrong piece of code gave me wrong numbers :S fixed it
<9> Azar, i have found that with 2.6 large videos play smoothly and look fine, but with 2.4 they are choppier, and sound is crappy.
<10> brownie17: 2.4 is stable while 2.6 is not
<18> tralala: sorry was gone for breakfast ... my 5.1 system is on the desktop ... for dvd viewing i use my laptop, but you can imagine sound from laptop is not so brilliant
<8> brownie17: and older kernels might be less secure
<9> callee, i didn't realise it was considered unstable. ubuntu uses it by default
<8> 2.6 not stable?
<7> !kernel of instability
<19> Linux 2.6. "Andrew's vision, as expressed at the summit, is that the mainline kernel will be the fastest and most feature-rich kernel around, but not, necessarily, the most stable. Final stabilization is to be done by distributors (as happens now, really)..." <http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3513>;, or http://kerneltrap.org/node/4793 (new 2.6 numbering scheme - proposal)
<8> 2.6.16 maybe 2.6.8 is under sarge, and I guess it should be stable
<10> Azar: 2.6 is production-development-combo
<9> gtg guys, cya
<14> doesn't 2.6 support more hardware? it's the main reason i needed 2.6 on the box at work, with a VIA network card
<14> 2.4 didn't support it
<8> callee: I have recently read about bugs in the 2.6 kernels indeed, but my Debian Sarge never crashed with its 2.6.8 kernel
<10> Azar: its not about crashes
<1> Marsmensch: so you want the sound output on the desktop and the picture on the laptop?
<13> exit
<10> also about driver problems
<13> wrong window
<13> :P
<8> etrask: indeed, but as many know, hardware drivers are buggy with or without a stable kernel
<1> Teddy: hmm, seems that you're out of luck. Googling for you card shows a lot of users having the same problem.
<18> tralala: yeah i think this would be nice ... but i wanna switch, in some situations sound on the notebook is better
<3> tralala: well thanks a lot for your help anyway - i think i could try with the ati real driver (nothing to loose at this point)
<1> Teddy: I'm afraid I've seen reports with the same problem using the ati driver
<8> and the way I see it suse wants to top the pile of **** a la mswindows with some sort of autorecognition package for drivers
<10> Azar: atm 2.6.16 screwed my graphics driver (no 3d, strange 2d behaviour)
<3> tralala: ok, do you think i could use another distribution maybe (one that u think would be close to a debian) ?
<1> Teddy: check this out: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/22985
<20> hi
<8> callee: I tested etch on my other box used a 2.6.15 kernel, it went ok but I prefered my old Sarge with the 2.6.8 so I am back at it
<1> Teddy: it has some options for the config file that may help
<10> Azar: to me sarge is unusable, because i need it on a desktop
<8> callee: your hardware too advanced for sarge?
<10> and stuff like online-banking (hbci) is unavailable for sarge
<20> did someone use rsync on a windows machine to synchronize two directories ? I have a problem with the path E: by example is considered like a remote host
<10> Azar: that as well
<8> ah I see... I never do online banking
<10> my harddisk encryption requires kernel 2.6.10 at least
<1> Marsmensch: this will be tough to make (if possible)
<8> their servers will balk at linux users I guess
<21> efaistos: i use rsync under cygwin, works fine
<8> callee: so you are one of those who trust online banking... interesting
<22> anyone have problem with network randomly not starting in debian unstable?
<10> Azar: yes, i do online-banking with a chipcard
<18> tralala: yeah, this is the reason, i'm in #debian ;)
<8> callee: good for you, good luck
<10> Azar: works fine, pin stays in the cardreader itself
<17> callee, you must not like your mony to do your banking on line :)
<3> tralala: i dont know how you came accross that information but it works :)
<23> hello, does anyone know what replace base-config in debian/testing
<3> tralala: thanks so much ( i had lost hope of getting it to work)
<20> petemc: the problem is when i try to backupo to the directory d:\backup by example it thinks d: is a remote host
<9> can someone help me? i need to know how to get the photos off my digital camera, when i plug it in it offers to get the photos off it, and i click yes and it does nothing
<9> efaistos, i know in windows in cases like that you must say file:/// before you type the actual directroy
<1> Teddy: congratulations :)
<3> tralala: one last question: is there a place where such info are gathered so it can help someone else out ? maybe i should add the info somwhere
<9> does anyone know a way to browse to a connected digital camera if it is not appearing in the "Media folder"?
<1> Marsmensch: have a look at jack-tools. I'm not sure if it will do the trick, but it sounds like it might.
<1> Teddy: I don't know. I used google.
<20> brownie17: i'll try that
<18> ok thank you, i will do so
<9> tralala, how do you mount a usb device if it is not appearing in /media ??
<20> brownie17: still trying to establish a connection to d:
<20> so it cant and says d: unknow host
<9> efaistos, sorry, can't help. try one less / though
<20> fuc*:$! windows
<20> brownie17: already did
<24> eh
<13> ?
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