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<0> I'm a fairly new postfix admin. I inherited a postfix server at work. I've set one up at home, I'm still green though.
<1> Installing Opera9 made my apt-get want to uninstall KDE and my libc. :)
<2> hey amphi , eh, you hang in debian chan eh, thought you all ubuntu :P
<3> justinm: http://tmda.net/
<4> Where does apt-get/dpkg keep it's logs of everything done with apt/dpkg
<5> servus, how does the box run w/o libc?
<1> Well I didn't let it continue!
<6> this should be compiled as a module if i have this in my .config right? "CONFIG_IP_NF_MANGLE=m"
<3> justinm: I gave up with other spam filtering mechanisms
<5> servus, must be linked against a particular libc.
<2> ah, well I don't use KDE anymore,
<6> modprobe mangle
<6> FATAL: Module mangle not found.
<2> I use, gnome, fluxbox, and enlightenment,
<3> sid: I don't think it *does*, but you can look in /var/lib/dpkg and /var/lib/apt
<1> apt-get has done that to me a few times. You install something trivial, and suddenly it decides it's time to uninstall 100 essential packages. Quite annoying.
<2> I'll be using fluxbox, when using VMware :)
<2> lol
<2> maybe you should change your debconf
<5> Dwonis, tmda works pretty well, eh?
<7> servus: never happened to me, but then i also avoid kde and non-free software
<0> Dwonis, does tmda run as a postfix extension
<0> or is it a full MTA ...
<1> I'm going to have to, next time I need to apt-get install something. I haven't fix it yet, this time.
<2> well, if you change your debconf, you should be okay
<8> shogunx: is this the shark? http://www.shark-linux.de/shark.html
<4> Dwonis: Is there a way to turn logging on...or apt-get install something that will give me more extensive apt-get/dpkg logigng.
<3> shogunx: well, I still have to tweak it a bit (right now, it's allowing any message with an envelope sender of <>, which is the standard "bounce" sender, but some spammers also use it)
<2> hi shogunx , netgod , and servus ,
<3> sid: maybe. man dpkg
<9> netgod thanks for the help
<5> C|int, hi.
<3> sid: I know dpkg has a debugging mode, but I think it just dumps its output to stderr, in that case
<1> Not sure what you mean, C|int; I've never used that particular "debconf" program before.
<2> anyone , have any experience with Acer laptops, i would like to improve my experience with debian hee, ubuntu was nice and everything for its hardware detection, however not fast enough for me, and I'm testing with FreeBSD 6.1 as well, on a serperate parition and on my workstation, and still using Debian, and windows
<5> zu22, nope. this is: http://www-5.ibm.com/se/news/archive/images/shark-mathiot.jpg
<3> justinm: I'm not sure what you're asking. Read the website. My mail system is rather convoluted, so the way I set things up probably don't apply to you
<2> I had users saying, what can you do in debian, that you can't do in ubuntu(
<5> Dwonis, do you use it with mailman or the like?
<8> shogunx: ah
<2> my reply to them, well debian might be a challenge, however, its alot faster off the start for a linux system, and to me, its way universal to program on, and to build things :)
<2> software(
<2> software**
<4> Dwonis: eh...I just wanted to basically keep a log of everything that is installed and what order it is installed.
<7> clint: you can see whats going on, and therefore hack it
<2> yep hee
<2> I hacked my cable :D
<10> your cable runs debian? ;)
<3> shogunx: mailman? no, but I have a pretty m***ive .procmailrc, and I have a weird custom virtual domains setup (basically, postfix+vmailmgr, which was a huge PITA, thanks to postfix's terrible architecture)
<9> I hacked my...oh nevermind
<2> took me awhile, I didnt' have it for 2 1/2 months, and as Network Engineer for my college, I thought, eh, :)
<1> "I have a confession to make; I hacked my sister's diary."
<10> Dwonis: what's so horrible about postfix?
<3> Supaplex: all its settings are per-mailserver instead of per-domain, and the pipe(8) transport refuses to run stuff as root
<5> C|int, no****. how. spoof the mac of the cable modem?
<2> hey netgod , are you anyone good with getting, wireless working, for built in wifi , 802.11 b/g Broacoms.. I could use some help .. :(
<4> Dwonis: Like if a package is iU ... I want to figure out what caused this package to be broken.
<0> Dwonis, this looks good
<7> Dwonis: why not go the easy route with qmail
<3> sid: I know what you're asking. I don't know the answer
<3> netgod: I *did*!
<2> maybe if I install, CodeWeavers CrossOver 5 pro, I can get it up and going :D
<10> does root need to receive mail? The new setup I'm rolling out with primarly domain->user maps works great (and some MDA magic)
<3> netgod: the problem was that qmail basically ground to a halt under the spam load
<0> I think what I'd do is have postfix send all spam through spam***asin, then p*** it through tmda
<7> clint: im not sure theres any easy way to get wireless working; i had to part-compile the kernel
<5> C|int, you could just move, and the address in the cableco's database would be wrong:)
<5> C|int, no way to trace a shared layer 1 like that.
<2> well, I hear the ndiswrapper and things, however, eh, I been trying, me and some users on ubuntu, was able to get it up, and had, it then when I did, dist-upgrade, I lost its configuration :(
<11> Ugly_Duck: hello. i might be able to help you find that module
<6> onetinsoldier: k.
<2> well shogunx , I plan to start using s a proxy, and I'm ordering me an IDS from nfr, this year
<11> ok.. hang on
<3> netgod: I was using vmailmgr to accept mail @dlitz.net, so every time some spammer decided to spam alice@dlitz.net, amber@dlitz.net, ashley@dlitz.net... qmail would accept the messages, then bounce them "back" to AOL... which would start tarpitting me
<10> Dwonis: did you catch my last comment?
<5> C|int, card is not suported by the kernel or wlan-ng?
<2> hm
<7> Dwonis: oh, ouch
<2> maybe i need, acer_acpi eh?
<2> i was reading some stuff on that.. o.o
<3> netgod: and since qmail doesn't queue messages per-outgoing-server, all my legitimate mail was being delayed by like 30-60 minutes
<6> iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -p tcp --dport domain -j CL***IFY --set-cl*** 1:30
<3> Supaplex: yes, I replied
<6> whats wrong with that?
<3> Supaplex: or wait, no I didn't
<2> I'm going to engineer my website, and having TechSmith videos, for linux and open source especially when I get things going,
<6> CL***IFY is not right aye?
<10> dwonis, does root need to receive mail? The new setup I'm rolling out with primarly domain->user maps works great (and some MDA magic)
<11> Ugly_Duck: look in this directory.... /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.16/net/ipv4/netfilter/
<6> onetinsoldier: kk..
<3> Supaplex: root doesn't need to receive mail. But I needed to port my vmailmgr setup to postfix
<2> I'm probably going to wait, when I get a high speed DSL line, I really like DSL over cable, for alot of reasons, :-)
<11> replace with your <kernel_version>
<3> Supaplex: so I wrote a wrapper that setuid()s to the proper user account
<2> just my opinion, and statistics i had showed users, in colleg e:)
<11> Ugly_Duck: doh! i screwed up... sorry
<5> C|int, RADIUS, the auth for most dsl/ppp links, does not realize that there are multiple users on the same username/p***;)
<3> Supaplex: of course, it needs to run as root, which postfix refuses to do in the name of "security", which is utter crap, because my workaround was necessarily more complex and possibly less secure
<10> dwonis, ahhh, so you're really rehashing things. :) I don't need a wrapper for this setup, I think procmail might be taking care of that part.
<11> Ugly_Duck: sorry.. that should have been... /lib/modules/2.6.16.16-686/kernel/net/ipv4/ .. and i think you are looking for, iptable_mangle.ko
<6> onetinsoldier: ahh, yup, i modprobed that
<3> damn djb and his crappy qmail licensing
<2> and 1 thing else, I installed, dri-I915-v1.1-20041217.i386 , thinkin it would help me get, 1280x800, however, I think I need to install, xorg, or something, i was reading something on user, have same laptop as me, and was using slackware, and had to make some modifications,
<11> Ugly_Duck: ahhh cool!
<2> oh cool shogunx
<7> Dwonis: people have damned him for a decade, i doubt he cares now
<5> that i915 chip is a bastard.
<3> netgod: I know. My damning stands
<10> hehe
<7> Dwonis: as well it should
<2> well, my ISP , isn't really stupid, I think there letting me get away with it for a while, I only have , download speed it allocates too, after downloading, 2,343 some odd, kb/s to, 1,000 kb/sm some, and then, 10 kb/s and 7 kb/s sometimes,
<9> thanks for the help people
<3> which is actually kind of funny, 'cause I'm an atheist... but still, it's a good expression
<2> yeah it is lol
<9> I'll be off here now
<2> I took the rpm from intel, and alien'd it :P
<2> what I call it :)
<7> rpm alienification?
<2> alien worked great, for taking Cedega rpm I had when I was into fedora, however, I seen the debian world, and didn't turn back, however tested SUSE 10.1 , just because users wanted some info on it, and it was slow as ever,
<7> 'debify' is shorter
<3> ugh. I don't know which is worse: using alien or NOT using alien
<2> and also, instaling deb files on debian ,. :D faster than ever, ubuntu, you got more work to do :D
<9> either way, sounds scary for some reason
<2> well, sometimes you have to reverse engineer applications dwar
<2> Dwonis, (
<12> debianise is the usual term. but that usually means from source tarball, not rpm
<2> in my aspect of things, in my vision of things, others my choose different modifications :-)
<11> yep... may the source be with you
<2> lol, yeah
<2> :P
<3> simonrvn: Is it debianise or debianize?
<3> let the flamewar begin!
<2> thats a gag onetinsoldier
<11> hehe
<7> Dwonis: depends on what continent you're on
<9> I dont mind working with tarballs...
<5> !start a flamewar
<13> Finnish is better than Swedish
<3> netgod: how about Canada?
<2> I use windows for what i need it for, workstation primarly, working with software development, and doing my best to make Vista better for users, they honestly pay good money, for a Vista system build, to work good hee,
<7> Dwonis: wouldnt it be debiannaire in french then? :P
<3> netgod: only in Qubec
<5> hehe
<3> netgod: and I think still no
<5> in mexico it debianista
<2> however, linux and unix is the best experience, for web browsing, and being online experience period, , thats why tonigth, /today, I am going do my best to get vmware workstation installed, or vmware player, then I'll have my own, infrastructure linux box :P
<7> shogunx: sounds like someone i'd like to meet
<5> :)
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